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[clarky]

Same. I play it to slow down and relax, it's not a race.

Yep its the ultimate chill out game. You'd miss so much just zipping around everywhere. Some of the views are GOAT.

 

[hlm666]

Unless im missing something its still almost the same. Point ship, Click x to go to menu, hold x to land. I love the game, its just a lazy travel system that could've been vastly better. Don't see more time played changing that.

As someone who played alot of elite dangerous having to plot a course/route then just spend time manually jumping from system to system then doing the same docking procedure/planet entry over and over I understand why they went this way. People would be screaming about having their time wasted if they went with something like that, or if they had both options most people would just be using the menu system after doing 2 or 3 manual journeys.

 

[Punished Miku]

I'm just happy you can sit in orbit and then get up and walk around your ship. And the docking animation for space stations is a nice touch.

 

[TonyK]

I explored only a few of different planets and moons but I already found caves and facilities that are exactly the same. That has killed a bit my interest for free exploration. Finding a cave in Earth's Moon with organic elements, exactly the same cave I found in the first planet of the game, it has been my major deception with the game until now. I mean, I can accept that for any planet, but for our Moon? It deserved a bit more of care, I think.

 

[Havoc2049]

I've been on vacation and have been visiting family. I even had early access with the DLC purchace, but didn't get to take advantage of it. I just FINALLY started to play Starfield the other night and I'm going to play like 5+ hours today and really get into it.

So far I've completed the mining intro and took down a few Crimson Pirate ships and killed a Crimson Pirate captain. I'm a long time RPG/CRPG and Bethesda fan and so far I'm loving it. There is very little hand holding and it sometimes takes a little time to figure things out, but I don't mind it. I would much rather have that than have the game be dumbed down and hold your hand.

 

[Chuck Berry]

Its literally exactly like ME. Only they added full ship battles, ship hailing, ship boarding, manual grav charge, and the scanning and galaxy map are 10x better.

How long until someone mods in the Mass Effect galaxy map theme

 

[clarky]

I've been on vacation and have been visiting family. I even had early access with the DLC purchace, but didn't get to take advantage of it. I just FINALLY started to play Starfield the other night and I'm going to play like 5+ hours today and really get into it.

So far I've completed the mining intro and took down a few Crimson Pirate ships and killed a Crimson Pirate captain. I'm a long time RPG/CRPG and Bethesda fan and so far I'm loving it. There is very little hand holding and it sometimes takes a little time to figure things out, but I don't mind it. I would much rather have that than have the game be dumbed down and hold your hand.

Your in for a treat. Enjoy.

 

[twilo99]

Way more.

You've really never played any of their other games? No Skyrim? No Oblivion? No Fallout?

If that's the really the case color me jealous as hell.

This is my first one!

I love FPS games and I think that's what drew me to this one but now that I see what's going on I will probably try Skyrim at some point..

 

[Macaron]

As someone who played alot of elite dangerous having to plot a course/route then just spend time manually jumping from system to system then doing the same docking procedure/planet entry over and over I understand why they went this way. People would be screaming about having their time wasted if they went with something like that, or if they had both options most people would just be using the menu system after doing 2 or 3 manual journeys.

You are assuming that is the only other solution though. I'm no creative game maker, idk what the answer is, but this method just ain't it for me. It might be a fine fast travel alternative, but feels wayyyy too lazy as your only method of travelling, especially when otherwise the game has been awesome.

 

[Danknugz]

No, that really isn't a valid description of Starfield at all, especially considering the breadth and scope of Starfield dwarfs Outer Worlds. Outer Worlds only has a subset of Starfield's "game mechanics", primarily being a shooter, but that leaves so much out of the equation on Starfield's side. The inventory management involving companions is a holdover from Skyrim.

it's definitely bigger but the main core meta mechanics, gameplay loop is just about identical

 

[ManaByte]

 

[twilo99]

Graphics wise? Yeah it can scale down. However, its the CPU bottleneck that is the issue. I do not think the XPU from the Xbox One, S, or X could handle it well.

It seems like they've maxed out whatever they can out is the current consoles.. the Xbox one x might be able to run 30fps at 540 or 720p? Not sure if worth it.

 

[Punished Miku]

I explored only a few of different planets and moons but I already found caves and facilities that are exactly the same. That has killed a bit my interest for free exploration. Finding a cave in Earth's Moon with organic elements, exactly the same cave I found in the first planet of the game, it has been my major deception with the game until now. I mean, I can accept that for any planet, but for our Moon? It deserved a bit more of care, I think.

I can get that. But I've personally been loving it. I can barely stop scanning and surveying to go do quests sometimes.

Just found a new cave full of dead miners and obscure alien creature biomaterial all over. Its not perfect but its not bad either. I just stick to what I am focused on accomplishing, and if I want to take a break for a random pirate shootout that is usually all I expect from the randomized structures. Sometimes they exceed that though. I think I've only had 1 double so far.

 

[TIGERCOOL]

I was on about system to system travel, there's no avoiding the map screen when choosing a landing zone.

Not true. Look at a planet and use your scanner and it will show all the distinct landing points on the planet itself, then you can aim your ship at any of them and the option to land there will show up.

 

[twilo99]

The power of cloud gaming lol

https://x.com/thegreatgreen12/status/1700096485604384895?s=46&t=aVYUpRYzg-bv2n8am2mMAg

 

[roosnam1980]

this will be turned into a sci-fi show in the near future.

 

[TheTurboFD]

StarUI is a godsend for this game. Now just need to fix the broken stealth and I'd be 100% satisfied lol

 

[Agent_Nobody]

Not true. Look at a planet and use your scanner and it will show all the distinct landing points on the planet itself, then you can aim your ship at any of them and the option to land there will show up.

To be clear LB with scanner, A to select the spot, then hold X. The major cities seem to be the exception though and requires you to pick what spot in the city you're landing in.

 

[Chuck Berry]

StarUI is a godsend for this game. Now just need to fix the broken stealth and I'd be 100% satisfied lol

Stealth isnt broken. It sucks at the start yeah, but you just need to level it up. Im at level 3 and not only has the detection meter changed visually, but enemies can barely hear me let alone see me crouching around

 

[Topher]

it's definitely bigger but the main core meta mechanics, gameplay loop is just about identical

If it were "just about identical" then I wouldn't be able to fly a space ship.

 

[March Climber]

How long until someone mods in the Mass Effect galaxy map theme

I was just about to ask the thread if anyone has a complimentary space playlist for this game? I really like the soundtrack of this game and I think once I've heard nearly all of it I'll be seeking out other space-themed music.

 

[Connxtion]

Disagree. Im 15 hours in minimum and the menu navigation never stops being horrible and a mind boggling decision. Game is awesome, but could've been a masterpiece if Bethesda took the time to make a better travelling system. This "go to menu, click mission, go back to menu, click land" is arguably the worst travel system of all time.

Why don't you just use the set destination option?

Bypass the need for backing out of menus it takes you straight to the planet in question.

 

[Trunim]

I dunno...if it's like mass effect in terms of a space map I'm kinda fine with it. Travelling gets tedious after a while if it's not a flight simulator.

 

[Chuck Berry]

I was just about to ask the thread if anyone has a complimentary space playlist for this game? I really like the soundtrack of this game and I think once I've heard nearly all of it I'll be seeking out other space-themed music.

 

[TrueGrime]

SLOBS. Keep your fucking ships clean peeps! Lol.

I have OCD and remove a lot of misc items and my ship is as clean as a whistle.

 

[TheTurboFD]

Stealth isnt broken. It sucks at the start yeah, but you just need to level it up. Im at level 3 and not only has the detection meter changed visually, but enemies can barely hear me let alone see me crouching around

Odd I'm at level 3 as well and they can see me from across a whole warehouse even with my Chameleon on. Hitting TAB to walk even slower and they still hear me around the corner even with my space suit off.

 

[Danknugz]

If it were "just about identical" then I wouldn't be able to fly a space ship.

I get your point and I'm just talking about from a design perspective. I guess it's just how Bethesda does all their games, and one could argue that is essentially a template:

1. open world
2. Lots of NPCs, some of which are more interactable and you need to finish quests for them to progress the game.
3. inventory management with maximum weight being a factor in what you carry and how you use storage devices
4. a place you can call your "house" or "base" where you can store items since you cant carry everything (see item 3)
5. a mechanism to upgrade weapons which is implemented in the game world as a bench or device you walk up to
6. same as 5 but for food and cooking
7. same as 5 but for clothes and armor
8. a skills/perks upgrade system for your character
8. an xp leveling system which is related to how you can upgrade your character and what skills/perks are available
9. a multi paged GUI management system to keep track of inventory/companions/quests/weapon, armor and character upgrades and appearance
10. a grading system for items found in the world where "legendary" is at the top and "common" is at the bottom, legendary is more rare and valuable

these are just the first ten or so things off the top of my head that are all very template - ish about these games.

 

[clarky]

I get your point and I'm just talking about from a design perspective. I guess it's just how Bethesda does all their games, and one could argue that is essentially a template:

1. open world
2. Lots of NPCs, some of which are more interactable and you need to finish quests for them to progress the game.
3. inventory management with maximum weight being a factor in what you carry and how you use storage devices
4. a place you can call your "house" or "base" where you can store items since you cant carry everything (see item 3)
5. a mechanism to upgrade weapons which is implemented in the game world as a bench or device you walk up to
6. same as 5 but for food and cooking
7. same as 5 but for clothes and armor
8. a skills/perks upgrade system for your character
8. an xp leveling system which is related to how you can upgrade your character and what skills/perks are available
9. a multi paged GUI management system to keep track of inventory/companions/quests/weapon, armor and character upgrades and appearance
10. a grading system for items found in the world where "legendary" is at the top and "common" is at the bottom, legendary is more rare and valuable

these are just the first ten or so things off the top of my head that are all very template - ish about these games.

You just described every Bethesda game from the last 30 years.

 

[Topher]

I get your point and I'm just talking about from a design perspective. I guess it's just how Bethesda does all their games, and one could argue that is essentially a template:

1. open world
2. Lots of NPCs, some of which are more interactable and you need to finish quests for them to progress the game.
3. inventory management with maximum weight being a factor in what you carry and how you use storage devices
4. a place you can call your "house" or "base" where you can store items since you cant carry everything (see item 3)
5. a mechanism to upgrade weapons which is implemented in the game world as a bench or device you walk up to
6. same as 5 but for food and cooking
7. same as 5 but for clothes and armor
8. a skills/perks upgrade system for your character
8. an xp leveling system which is related to how you can upgrade your character and what skills/perks are available
9. a multi paged GUI management system to keep track of inventory/companions/quests/weapon, armor and character upgrades and appearance
10. a grading system for items found in the world where "legendary" is at the top and "common" is at the bottom, legendary is more rare and valuable

these are just the first ten or so things off the top of my head that are all very template - ish about these games.

Sure. I mean….they were not lying when they said it was Skyrim in space. It literally is.

 

[Chuck Berry]

Odd I'm at level 3 as well and they can see me from across a whole warehouse even with my Chameleon on. Hitting TAB to walk even slower and they still hear me around the corner even with my space suit off.

That is odd. I too thought for sure it was busted at the beginning because of their super vision. Even around lvl 2 I was much more successful at sneaking around. Maybe theres some secret numbers dictating it depending on your class, perks or background.

 

[Danknugz]

Sure. I mean….they were not lying when they said it was Skyrim in space. It literally is.

You just described every Bethesda game from the last 30 years.

Im loving starfield don't me wrong, in fact I actually appreciate the fast travel all over the place because I'm a lazy gamer in general. I also loved fallout 4 and outer worlds, starfield to me feels like a more fleshed out outer worlds with way more detail and work put in. Maybe outer worlds was kind of like a windows ME/vista/windows 8 of bethesda games, really just a huge beta for the eventual starfield release? I mean they're really that similar I can't help but notice the similarities. Outer worlds also has your own ship that literally lands there waiting for you just like starfield when you go off to do a quest and come back, and your companions might be there while a different one comes with you, etc

 

[clarky]

Im loving starfield don't me wrong, in fact I actually appreciate the fast travel all over the place because I'm a lazy gamer in general. I also loved fallout 4 and outer worlds, starfield to me feels like a more fleshed out outer worlds with way more detail and work put in. Maybe outer worlds was kind of like a windows ME/vista/windows 8 of bethesda games, really just a huge beta for the eventual starfield release? I mean they're really that similar I can't help but notice the similarities. Outer worlds also has your own ship that literally lands there waiting for you just like starfield when you go off to do a quest and come back, and your companions might be there while a different one comes with you, etc

Outer worlds is just a knock off BGS title not the other way around. Not sure what Obsidian have to do with Starfields development?

Think your getting confused these 2 games are not from the same developers.

 

[Danknugz]

Outer worlds is just a knock off BGS title not the other way around. Not sure what Obsidian have to do with Starfields development?

Think your getting confused these 2 games are not from the same developers.

i'm not confused i just never paid attention and assumed it was the same, but now that you mention it i do recall obsidian now. i guess that speaks to how similar to games really are.

 

[twilo99]

Sure. I mean….they were not lying when they said it was Skyrim in space. It literally is.

How hard would it be to add a planet that has a very dense world with its own story as a DLC or something.. like a mini Skyrim planet lol

 

[clarky]

How hard would it be to add a planet that has a very dense world with its own story as a DLC or something.. like a mini Skyrim planet lol

I'm expecting somebody to mod in Skyrim at some point. Didnt they say a tile was about the same size?

But yeah for me a planet of the apes dlc set on earth would be awesome.

 

[Topher]

How hard would it be to add a planet that has a very dense world with its own story as a DLC or something.. like a mini Skyrim planet lol

Could happen. It will be interesting to see what the Shattered Space expansion is all about. Bethesda's expansions have been pretty huge in the past.

 

[cyberheater]

SLOBS. Keep your fucking ships clean peeps! Lol.

I have OCD and remove a lot of misc items and my ship is as clean as a whistle.

Filthy? She has no idea. If we had a blacklight, this thing would look like a Jackson Pollock painting.

 

[twilo99]

Could happen. It will be interesting to see what the Shattered Space expansion is all about. Bethesda's expansions have been pretty huge in the past.

They seem to strive for huge so that makes sense. How many expansion packs did Skyrim have?

 

[clarky]

They seem to strive for huge so that makes sense. How many expansion packs did Skyrim have?

3 if I remember correctly.

Hopefully we get the same here can't wait to see what else they have cooking.

 

[Freeman76]

As someone who played alot of elite dangerous having to plot a course/route then just spend time manually jumping from system to system then doing the same docking procedure/planet entry over and over I understand why they went this way. People would be screaming about having their time wasted if they went with something like that, or if they had both options most people would just be using the menu system after doing 2 or 3 manual journeys.

100% agree

Doing an hour journey through space just to sell some shit then do the same journey back again is boring as fuck! I wouldnt mind betting thats how Starfield started but as more people playtested it they changed it to how it is now, which is pretty much perfect as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Freeman76]

I was just about to ask the thread if anyone has a complimentary space playlist for this game? I really like the soundtrack of this game and I think once I've heard nearly all of it I'll be seeking out other space-themed music.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

Andreja's butt... I'm docked.

 

[Chuck Berry]

I'm expecting somebody to mod in Skyrim at some point. Didnt they say a tile was about the same size?

But yeah for me a planet of the apes dlc set on earth would be awesome.

I want a Tatooine and a Mos Eisley please

 

[FunkMiller]

A small thing, but I got mesmerised by a planet rising over the moon I was exploring, with the galactic rim just off to the side. Lots of lovely views in this game, no doubt.

 

[Draugoth]

The game isnt out and there's already drama

 

[FunkMiller]

The game isnt out and there's already drama

Well that's just fucking stupid - and the other side to the dumb coin from that fat prick having a meltdown about them.

 

[lefty1117]

As someone who played alot of elite dangerous having to plot a course/route then just spend time manually jumping from system to system then doing the same docking procedure/planet entry over and over I understand why they went this way. People would be screaming about having their time wasted if they went with something like that, or if they had both options most people would just be using the menu system after doing 2 or 3 manual journeys.

Yeah this is why I think the sentiment around the game is going to slowly improve over time. Not just because of the mod support which is already happening, but some of the design decisions are going to become clear in their intent. I'm already starting to see it with things like, I know I'm going to need to be able to move between outposts regularly and the thought of having to make 10 jumps every time ... no thanks! This is the sort of thing that has put me off of Elite and NMS, and probably will kill my enjoyment of SC in the long term. Once you've done the act of traveling enough it becomes a real bore.

 

[Shubh_C63]

Yeah my GTX 1660Ti laptop cannot handle the game. Mostly because of the non-SSD and weak CPU, and I am upgrading to all SSD just because of this game. I'm loving it.

And that Allanah Pearce video was soo cool. Made me appreciate the game more and frown on how bad or wasteful probably Bethesda is in making this game. Like aa good developer could have made some loading shenanigans there to implement Landing directly from space if you're already willing to sit 10 mins of space travel to get close to the planet.

Starfield really loves its menus and even then its a chore to navigate it. I would never want to see the Menu if they could implement me getting close to a planet (10 mins !!) and let me scan it from the ship itself without menu-screen and add some BS loading screen as I get close to enter the planet and transition into the landing cutscene. I really really wouldn't had mind.

Also because of that Allanah Pearce video I am more convinced there are REAL Xbox fans on payroll.

As someone who played alot of elite dangerous having to plot a course/route then just spend time manually jumping from system to system then doing the same docking procedure/planet entry over and over I understand why they went this way. People would be screaming about having their time wasted if they went with something like that, or if they had both options most people would just be using the menu system after doing 2 or 3 manual journeys.

but I still would have loved both the options. I would sit through 10 mins for that and that's the penalty Bethesda could have imposed on us for the cost of real immersion.

 

[geary]

I never followed closely how Bethesda treats their game, but do they release patches which adds QoL, change system, fix major bugs or these changes are done only on a re-release of the game? I am also asking in the context that everybody keep saying that their older game (Skyrim, Fallout) are still buggy mess...

 

[MidGenRefresh]

Fucking hell, I thought that Terrormorh is just a scripted alien that appears in key story moments but NOPE, I just landed on a planet and these MOFOS are everywhere. Mommy, help.