apieceofstrange
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It's way better than rouge legacy, even in its current state. It's one if the more complete feeling early access games I've played, and it's getting updates fairly often.
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Steam Summer Sale 2017 |OT| The Weather's Hot and the Deals are Not
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It's way better than rouge legacy, even in its current state. It's one if the more complete feeling early access games I've played, and it's getting updates fairly often.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
I've placed all of them in their respective pictures.
Transformers: Devastation [Amazon UK] - £3.75 / ~4.30 / ~$4.90 -- Digital steam key
I would take Ori, as it was one of my favorite games I played last year.
A very atmospheric melodramatic Metroidvania.
Also the second one comes (hopefully) this year, so if you crave more of this style the next one shouldn't be too far away.
At the moment I'm playing Hollow Knight and it definitely has every right to it's hype, but considering that it's pretty new, you could wait for a even further price reduction...
Dead cells is also pretty cool, but also well worth to wait until it's completely fleshed out.
Salt & Sanctuary is the only one I haven't played (yet).
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Hollow Knight over Ori.
I love Ori, but Hollow Knight.
I love Ori, but Hollow Knight.
I'm actually really tempted to leave a negative review for it, not because I think it's bad (it's not very good though), but because it had no review telling me what it is and preventing me from buying it. There is another side of the coin, always.
Dark Souls isn't actually hard. You just need to get used to dodge+roll, and then the game becomes a cakewalk for the most part (barring boss fights).
On the other hand, I found Hollow Knight to be harder (played it a little, don't have it myself for now). I found the main story OK, but the optional stuff can be a pain to complete. Also, in DS I'd get a sense of satisfaction (or success) whenever I passed a region, didn't really feel that in Hollow Knight.
Life isn't actually hard, you just have to be born: lucky, handsome and rich, right?
what's up with insisting that hard games are very easy, I wonder.
Well, that was my opinion. I only found DS hard until I learnt how to dodge and roll. Once you have that down you can progress through the game quite quickly (barring boss fights).
Hollow Knight is easier for many people but when I tried to do the side stuff I just got annoyed, which is why I found it to be harder. Maybe I just didn't enjoy the 2D aspect of it.
In any case, what I said was my personal opinion only.
Dark Souls really isn't all that hard, it's mostly a meme because it released during a time where every dev thought all games need to be as easy as possible.
It's more challenging still than your average AAA game sure, but the way it's being treated as one of the hardest franchises on earth for truest hardcore gaym0r roflr0xx0rs is a joke and is more proof of missing perspective than the games difficulty.
Anyone remember Driver? That came broke you in the freakin tutorial.
It's more challenging still than your average AAA game sure, but the way it's being treated as one of the hardest franchises on earth for truest hardcore gaym0r roflr0xx0rs is a joke and is more proof of missing perspective than the games difficulty.
Anyone remember Driver? That came broke you in the freakin tutorial.
that's not the point, of course some bullet hell games are harder than pretty much everything, that doesn't mean that DS isn't hard in it's own genre.
during NES/SNES era? what ARPGs you even remember from that era?
Chairmanchuck
Member
I think it depends how you define "hard". During the NES/SNES days DS would just be considered "normal" I would say.
Im not talking about ARPGs specifically, but in general. In a lot of the games during that era you died quite often, similar to Dark Souls. You have to repeat that certain part, similar to Souls games. You lost progress, similar to Soul games. You got better and better till you finished that part.
I thought you liked good stories in your games, Arthea...
What next, you coming out saying you don't really like Trails and the only reason you keep bringing them up is because of all the Estelle porn you like to watch?
Wok
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By the way, I have tried to optimize a ranking based on your feedback (here and there). Fata Morgana is 2nd, just behind this game:
And your suggestions are placed at ranks 916th and 926th. I don't think they can get any higher than that. The only way that things could change a bit is getting people to leave more reviews. If you feel like leaving a negative review, I think you should do so. 😉
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
What is it about Hollow Knight that's garnering so much praise? I have it in my Steam cart because everyone's raving about it, but I'm not seeing anything amazing in the video footage I've been watching. What is it about the game that makes it a must buy?
Mikurden
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Zelda 2 is fairly difficult, extremely so by the end.
Thing to remember about Dark Souls/Bloodborne is that, yeah, they're hard, but (almost) every part of them can be beaten if you don't mind grinding for levels and brute-forcing sections of it. My wife (who likes Picross and HOGs) could probably beat the games if she cared enough and resigned herself to spending hours grinding for levels.
Now, certainly, there's the question of whether you find grinding fun (or can at least stand doing it), but the difficulty of SoulsBorne is, really, exaggerated if you don't mind it.
Now, certainly, there's the question of whether you find grinding fun (or can at least stand doing it), but the difficulty of SoulsBorne is, really, exaggerated if you don't mind it.
Weltall Zero
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You are tempted to leave a negative review because you didn't bother researching what genre a game is?
InquisitorAles
Member
Another take from my discovery queue, look interesting but no release date for now
Wok
Member
It is at the top because it is both:
- hidden: about 2400 players.
- and praised: 328 positive reviews out of 332 reviews.
Wok
Member
Well, by design, it should be hard to find someone who has played the games at the top of the ranking. The fact that some people here have played Fata Morgana and Umineko just shows that we have some GAFfers seriously into Visual Novels.
The niche is here.
You are welcome. I was mostly curious to see what would come out of it.
Now, I know, you are secretly into dragons.
It does not look bad. Explain.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
By the way, I have tried to optimize a ranking based on your feedback (here and there). Fata Morgana is 2nd, just behind this game:
And your suggestions are placed at ranks 916th and 926th. I don't think they can get any higher than that. The only way that things could change a bit is getting people to leave more reviews. If you feel like leaving a negative review, I think you should do so. 😉
dragons2western4me
Stronghammer22
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I have more money to spend this year than the last 6 that I have been on Steam, however, my grand total of Steam purchases this sale is two. Obviously there are several factors in play: Steam not being as good in terms of pricing, owning so many games already, waiting for Switch ports instead of buying on PC (Hollow Knight, etc). One of the purchases I did make, I probably won't play...it's Disney Infinity, but for my son. He's a bit too young for games just yet though so perhaps I should have held off. Oh well.
The other purchase was That Dragon, Cancer. It started so promising - I was connecting with it as a father, however, it kind of went off the rails and away from what I thought it would be. I knew the story, but not how it would be told. If you asked me whether I thought it was a good game I would say no. That said, I don't regret playing it.
The other purchase was That Dragon, Cancer. It started so promising - I was connecting with it as a father, however, it kind of went off the rails and away from what I thought it would be. I knew the story, but not how it would be told. If you asked me whether I thought it was a good game I would say no. That said, I don't regret playing it.
paperspace
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How do you get stickers? I've done all the quests and the discovery queues. I still have 0 stickers.
Click on the sticker pack icon sitting amongst your sticker collection. It looks like this:
It'll disappear when you have no more packs remaining.
bobnowhere
Member
Have you opened the sticker packs?
They appear at the top left of the first sticker page.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
Man, I went overboard during this sale, but I'm happy with my haul:
Abzu
The Turing Test
XCOM 2
HITMAN The Complete First Season
What Remains of Edith Finch
Prey
Far Cry 4
Hollow Knight
Now I just need to find the time to play all this crap.
Abzu
The Turing Test
XCOM 2
HITMAN The Complete First Season
What Remains of Edith Finch
Prey
Far Cry 4
Hollow Knight
Now I just need to find the time to play all this crap.
I personally found Hollow Knight to be notably harder than Dark Souls. I wouldn't say it's "bullshit" other than maaaaybe one or two small sections, but it's definitely a game you're going to have to take seriously in terms of challenge. It's really amazing though. Absolutely worth playing and one of those rare games where simply finishing the game feels like something of an accomplishment. It's definitely not handed to you. Doable, but very hard.
purseowner
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I bought Shu, so that'll definitely be in the Humble Monthly.
It's a bad implementation of Color Cross, where instead of solving a multi-color nonogram, you solve 4 single-color ones overlayed on the same picture.
Plus, you know, a few puzzles cannot be solved by logic alone, you have to resort to guessing (and the game is punishing bad guesses by having to redo the whole puzzle).
Stick with Paint it Back and Pictopix.
- It's very well paced
- It's enormous (really!) and just packed to the brim with interesting zones and secret
- It has great pacing - every time you get an upgrade or a key it's thrilling because you remember like three places you couldn't access before that you now can
- It has incredibly tightly designed enemies and bosses that all require particular, unique strategies and moves to overcome
- It's incredibly challenging and rewarding
- It takes place in this amazingly soulful and melancholic bug kingdom, which is a series of interconnected zones that are diverse, surprising, and convincingly lived-in
- It has great and endearing characters, and they do a lot with a little in terms of writing
- The music is the best.
I was in the same boat as you, thinking it looked fine but not necessarily amazing. But nah, it really wound up being pretty special.
Talking about that, I know it's a sale thread, but if any of you wanna get into Picross, this game is a good start, very very easy and free and some player submitted puzzles are nice too (I 100%-ed it yesterday):
Funyarinpa
Member
>:C
Having a fair and sensible negative review would be fair game, but instead of that we have a dude who's finished the first two chapters and then spoiled himself on everything and then claimed that the WHOLE game had writing/storytelling/pacing issues. And then he deleted tens of responses (because they're personal insults, supposedly) and called his review's detractors "fangays".
Talking about that, I know it's a sale thread, but if any of you wanna get into Picross, this game is a good start, very very easy and free and some player submitted puzzles are nice too (I 100%-ed it yesterday):
100%ed or Workshop 100%ed?
(Sadly, there's only mouse controls in Picross Touch. I'd love for the game to have a gamepad support added).
100%ed or Workshop 100%ed?
(Sadly, there's only mouse controls in Picross Touch. I'd love for the game to have a gamepad support added).
it's way too easy for you, you will complain it's too easy! cuz it kinda is
yeah, I've read that review, it's pretty bad, it's less about a game and more about its fans.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Ok, this sounds nice. I still haven't made my final decision on which group of games I want to purchase (going to pull the trigger tonight), but I think I'll be including Hollow Knight.
I also started eyeballing Unexplored. Another title that doesn't look that amazing, but man, I'm hearing some extremely positive talk about it.
EdibleKnife
Member
My last game for the sale. Can't decide between Xanadu Next, Thumper, Snake Pass, or Yomawari: Night Alone. Thumper is the most expensive of the bunch but seems worth it. Any opinions from other Gaffers?
Austin Walker has a 2 hour playthrough on the Waypoint channel. A really good breakdown of what the game does extremely well and it's value overall. Decided against buying it this sale but this made the decision tough.
Austin Walker has a 2 hour playthrough on the Waypoint channel. A really good breakdown of what the game does extremely well and it's value overall. Decided against buying it this sale but this made the decision tough.
Snake Pass is fantastic. A little on the short side, but at half off, it's well worth the price. The default control scheme can be more frustrating than endearingly challenging at first, however the official How to Play video is a great resource for learning the ropes.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Thanks! I'll check it out when I get home.
EdibleKnife
Member
Thanks for the video!
No problem. You made the right decision with Hollow Knight by the way. I had my reservations as well but it's been an amazing game and well worth the price.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Thanks, but I decided to pass. I'll just save my remaining $30 for the deluge of games in October instead.
LurkerPrime
Member
I'd expand as much as possible, just beeline for auto turrets and you'll be protected until you can get a second party member. Grabbing the economy tech tree's mercenaries tech will set you up nicely for the rest of the game, at least on small maps.
The key thing for winning in my experience is having a good party set-up. You want one attacking close-range, quick enemies, with instant weapons like machineguns or shotguns, and one attacking far, long-ranged enemies with grenade launchers or sniper rifles. Other weapons can work to, particularly if you find a good one worth working towards. Later on, the mercenary will cover any holes. Being aggressive and taking occupied tiles is best, unless there's a better tile somewhere, because the enemy threat gets worse as the turns pass; critical mistakes or losses early on can make their numbers unassailable.
To support this offensiveness, don't skimp on weapon skill upgrades. The mid-tier weapons, like 5ish, are a significant step up from tier 1's. And the better a party member is at killing, the more experience they will get, and the more you will keep enemy populations down. (There is an actual hard cap on their numbers turn-to-turn AFAIK, so suppressing their populations is key to avoid getting overrun.) You will then, in turn, control more territory, have more defenses, economy, research, and equipment, and be better off as their numbers swell.
Like, in all of my winning games my character outpaced my party members by a signifcant margin in terms of damage output and experience gain. Focusing purely on offensive skills has been the path to victory for these small maps, where enhanced defenses or utility skills are less important.
Back when I first saw it, that video is what sold me on Unexplored. It's so good.
Chance Hale
Member
People who liked the tone of Condemned and how bat shit crazy the second game got should check out Get Even.
Honestly one of my biggest surprises ever, hadn't heard of it at all before release and the first few hours have been really tense and interesting. Presentation is pretty incredible.
Honestly one of my biggest surprises ever, hadn't heard of it at all before release and the first few hours have been really tense and interesting. Presentation is pretty incredible.
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