Cuban Legend
Member
if you would check the OP of the Team Fortress 2 Trading |OT| you would find tons of helpful links for TF2 related infoKonig94 said:
ah shit new page .... uhhh
Team Fortress 2 |OT3| - Murder-based Hat Simulator
- Thread starter Yeef
- Start date
ah shit new page .... uhhh
MatthewB92
Member
Well damn I traded mine away a couple of days ago.Togglesworlh said:
Togglesworlh
Banned
noooooo D:
SteveWinwood
Member
Screw you, I frantically looked through the last posts of the last page looking for a new update with more items.Cuban Legend said:if you would check the OP of the Team Fortress 2 Trading |OT| you would find tons of helpful links for TF2 related info
ah shit new page .... uhhh
MatthewB92
Member
Numbered too D:Togglesworlh said:
JakkuFurosu
Member
Uriah said:
Halloween sets or class? all the Halloween ones are in
BobTheFork
Member
oh, FFS my server list has been messed up forever. What's the GAF sever address? I can't see it right now
Wendel Clark
Member
ArtistDude88
Member
Yeef said:
I hope you're trying to be funny.
SteveWinwood
Member
Awesome.Yeef said:
If only your computer was powerful enough to show my true badassedness.Wendel Clark said:
REPLAYS
Artemis is a terrible teammate
CHEW CHEW HUNGRY
Playing around with slow mo. It's cool, but if you turn it down all the way it's like watching paint try, but even just a millimeter above normal and it's much faster.
Also, I got a Brain Bucket drop on my main account. The second hat drop in a month on my main account, and earlier this week I had the German Gonzilla drop on my idle account. I combined them together for a.... Stout Shako. Joy.
SteveWinwood
Member
I don't know what was going on. I was trying to craft a damn maul and then people were spawn camping and trying to learn the map or something. I quit, and I expect people to come in here and complain about it.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
I don't get HLDJ! I converted the songs in the format it is asking (wav 16-bit) and still sounds like crap!
overthehill99
Member
Does anyone know the easiest way to idle on OSX? I can't seem to find anything about it.
Danne-Danger
Member
TF2WH really is the best thing ever. I could finally get rid of all those duplicate vintage crap items and camera beards, made me interested in playing the game again! It's also nice to log in after a long while and see that some of the games you've purchased netted you neat items *genuine anger omnomnom*
TF2, you're a strange beast.
TF2, you're a strange beast.
Togglesworlh
Banned
That shouldn't happen.Acerac said:
Also, yes, it is. Voting is fucking shit and anyone who likes it is shit and should be shot in real life.
Cloudius12
Member
it is best not to use HLDJ converters, use Goldwave or something similar. Also the volume can't be too high or else you will destroy the world. Jump GAF server to test.Sgt.Pepper said:
But HLDJ converter is not all bad, as long as you can get the volume down on the track or clip you are trying to play, it is ok.
Togglesworlh
Banned
Yes because that's exactly what happens with mapvoting.Acerac said:
Oh wait.
Acerac
Banned
For the majority, yes? Hence the reason why we vote?Togglesworlh said:
Unlike the rotation where we do a custom map in some goofy ass format that nobody's ever heard of, a custom arena map, lumbermill arena, lakeside koth (first time in ages I've actually been happy to see lakeside), then lumbermill ctf followed by pacman!
Togglesworlh
Banned
No, what mapvoting does is ensures the same maps get played over and over again to the exclusion of other maps that a not insignificant number of people like to play.
Let's say we have maps A, B, and C.
A and B get voted in all the time.
10 people like A a lot. 10 people like B a lot. Neither of these groups are composed of exactly the same people, but there is a lot of overlap, and the people left over in either group still like to play the other map pretty frequently, too.
10 people like C a lot, all separate from the above people, but because one of A or B is in the vote, as well, more than 10 people vote for whichever of A or B is in the running, and outnumber the 10 who like C a lot.
This is fucking bullshit, and if you support this method of mapchanging you are the wart on humanity's left asscheek. Those people don't know how to run a good server, and shouldn't be in charge of the maps being played.
Let's say we have maps A, B, and C.
A and B get voted in all the time.
10 people like A a lot. 10 people like B a lot. Neither of these groups are composed of exactly the same people, but there is a lot of overlap, and the people left over in either group still like to play the other map pretty frequently, too.
10 people like C a lot, all separate from the above people, but because one of A or B is in the vote, as well, more than 10 people vote for whichever of A or B is in the running, and outnumber the 10 who like C a lot.
This is fucking bullshit, and if you support this method of mapchanging you are the wart on humanity's left asscheek. Those people don't know how to run a good server, and shouldn't be in charge of the maps being played.
Acerac
Banned
Yeah that's why people aren't allowed to nominate the same map for hours after it has been played. If we could just nominate the same map over and over it'd be a problem, but thankfully that issue has been dealt with
Even obscure maps get played at times with the voting system as the popular maps are quickly played through. Then everyone remembers why they never vote for said maps (they're horrible) and they get ignored again for weeks.
Even obscure maps get played at times with the voting system as the popular maps are quickly played through. Then everyone remembers why they never vote for said maps (they're horrible) and they get ignored again for weeks.
Togglesworlh
Banned
Way to completely ignore the actual issue at hand. You're brilliant. That's enough of that.Acerac said:
Togglesworlh
Banned
You're focusing on the very specific case that I mentioned and ignoring that it's a problem that happens more than once in a span of several hours. It happens again, and again, and again.
Moreover, many people vote whatever-the-fuck just to get it off the screen without actually thinking about it. Many people accidentally vote for whatever-the-fuck because they're actively playing.
And most importantly, many people are stupid and don't know what they want. That goes for pretty much everyon who votes.
Moreover, many people vote whatever-the-fuck just to get it off the screen without actually thinking about it. Many people accidentally vote for whatever-the-fuck because they're actively playing.
And most importantly, many people are stupid and don't know what they want. That goes for pretty much everyon who votes.
Professor Beef
Banned
I know what I want when I vote, it's just that nobody else wants it.Togglesworlh said:
Togglesworlh
Banned
Well of course YOU know. You're awesome!Professor Beef said:
Acerac
Banned
Why yes, yes I was replying to what you said. I thought that was the proper way to hold a conversation. One person says something than the other person replies to it. Have I been proceeding incorrectly?Togglesworlh said:
I'll grant that some stupid picks come up due to the way votes are processed. Compared to this rotation it seems to be the lesser of two evils however. As much as I hate novelty maps like Pacman or Hightower I'd rather see them twice a night than the garbo we were being given tonight. We were seeing crap maps twice apiece anyways, the only difference was that nobody wanted to play them.
If you want to convince me that voting is a flawed system then no worries, I'm way ahead of you. I'm just saying it is better than the alternative we had in place tonight. Perhaps once Yeef fixes the rotation my tune will change. We'll see.
speculawyer
Member
Damn it. I did something to my PC a couple weeks ago and it hasn't been the same ever since. TF2 feels so 'mushy' now. Like the mouse lags behind my motions. I can't figure out how to fix it. I've been turning off all sorts of services, upgrading drivers, . . . but nothing seems to fix it. I can't aim for shit now.
ArtistDude88
Member
speculawyer said:
Didja lower your mouse sensitivity somehow? I do that sometimes on accident because there's a button on my mouse that raises/lowers it
Did you enable V-Sync at the driver level, perhaps?speculawyer said:
[EDIT]RE: Rotation
Apparently there was a bug with the next_mapgroup function in UMC. Steell, the plugin author, has pushed out a test release that should fix the issue. I've installed in on server and I'll quick play test it to make sure it's working correctly.
Togglesworlh
Banned
Yeef if you insist on using the maprating system, you should really force people to play at least two full games on the map before voting. Most people will automatically vote "terrible" on anything unfamiliar to them, simply because change makes them uncomfortable.
Also the fact that you call Hightower a "novelty" map only further confirms that you don't deserve to vote on anything ever in life.
No, you were being deliberately obtuse by focusing on the specific example in an effort to ignore the actual point of my argument, which was that it's inherently flawed and awful, but if you want to continue being that guy, go right ahead.Acerac said:
Also the fact that you call Hightower a "novelty" map only further confirms that you don't deserve to vote on anything ever in life.
We could play arena all night once a week and it would still be vastly superior to voting.Acerac said:
Yup. The update fixed the rotation.
Also, the final point on mountain lab is surprisingly hard to cap, even with no defense, when host_timescale is set to 5.
[EDIT]
Also, the final point on mountain lab is surprisingly hard to cap, even with no defense, when host_timescale is set to 5.
[EDIT]
In the nearish future I plan on setting up a map rating page on the stats site. If enough people use it, I'll wipe the database and just make in-game map rating never come up automatically. You'll either have to do !maprate in chat or go to the website.Togglesworlh said:
Togglesworlh
Banned
That would work!Yeef said:
P.S. Acerac, I'm just being mean for fun 'cause I know you can take it. No hard feelings.
Acerac
Banned
Don't present points if you don't wish me to discuss them. "Stop discussing that point I brought up! Only an absurd person would think that mattered!" If it wasn't your intention that we would discuss that specific example do you mind elaborating? Or do you prefer ranting about how crazy I am for discussing subjects that you brought to light?Togglesworlh said:
It is duly noted however that people who make lighthearted jokes at maps you enjoy do not deserve to vote on anything ever. Very well thought out point on your part.
We could play arena all night every night and to some people it would be the best way to go. Perhaps that's what you'd prefer for the server. I merely had the idea that we'd try to make the server fun for the majority who were playing on it. Based on the comments made during gameplay this evening it seemed that we were moving away from that. Though I suppose that one could say that people were having fun and simply were mistaken when they wished for voting to return.
Of course, it is always a great mental exercise to wrestle with a devil's advocate.Togglesworlh said:That would work!
P.S. Acerac, I'm just being mean for fun 'cause I know you can take it. No hard feelings.
After all if one can't state why they believe something perhaps it is best that their feelings are reconsidered. Thankfully however you have helped me realize that my opinions are well based in fact.