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The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth |OT| Pixel Heart Mother
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Would doing this screw with Steam achievements?
It doesn't replace any executables or the steam api, so no, it won't screw with achievements.
Anyone else feel like Latch Key switches from super-common to super-rare after you unlock Everything is Terrible? I started on my third save file today and realized that I had totally forgotten the item since it never, ever shows up on my other save files, but it shows up all the time on a fresh save. Weird, I'd rather have it than an HP up.
I've unlocked Everything is Terrible and Latch Keys still shows up quite a bit. Like, at least once every 3/4 runs.
WTF, I want your copy of the game! I haven't seen it in probably 50-75 hours. I just get Placentas all day, with the occasional Torn Photo or Safety Pin (though so occasionally that my heart stops for a second from the shock of it not being an HP up).
My version is 1.01 (Vita). Patch not yet live for EU it seems. Might have something to do with it I guess, maybe they nerfed the chance of it showing up on the newer patches.
Joe Molotov
Member
Ugh, I hate Maggy. Beat the Chest, but only because I got Guppy, and it was still slow as fuck.
SerTapTap
Member
I got D100 in the middle of a BASE MENT run (basement 57), apparently it is also susceptible to "breakfast". I'm still Guppy, the Lord of Flies, but it seems everything but Dead Cat has been turned into Breakfast in my inventory...
I just googled, pretty hard to find but it was in a random forum thread. Wasn't even on the wiki, I guess I'll add it
I just googled, pretty hard to find but it was in a random forum thread. Wasn't even on the wiki, I guess I'll add it
SPACECADET
Member
it's way too easy to become guppy now. i feel like i do almost every run.
I Wanna Be The Guy
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On Vita you tap the botton corner of he screen. Dunno about other versions.
I think there's an opacity tool in optons? Idk
OminoMichelin
Member
On PC is Q by default.
That only affects the big map.
I guess I could put opacity to 0 since it makes the big map invisible, then just switch between small map and the invisible big one.
I'd rather have the window resize itself and put the map outside the play area. You know, like they did it in the original.
Thanks, I always thought that the pills and cards just passively affected some variables in the level.
So I've beaten
three times now. I did it again tonight, but when I did it, a "holy" door opened in the wall. Rather than open the
, I went in.
I died before reaching the next boss, and I guess this run didn't count as beating
. Any idea why that door appeared? I had a fully charged bible when I beat it, and a halo, maybe that was it.
I did unlock "coat hangar" when I got into that new area, so it wasn't a total loss.
Mom's Heart
giant chest
I died before reaching the next boss, and I guess this run didn't count as beating
Mom's Heart
I did unlock "coat hangar" when I got into that new area, so it wasn't a total loss.
Joe Molotov
Member
It still counts as beating Mom's Heart.
Sometimes you randomly get a Devil Room or an Angel Room after Mom's After and you can skip to the next level before it's been permanently unlocked (that'll happen after 11 Mom's Heart kills).
zombieshavebrains
I have not used cocaine
Need some help. I'm Azazel right now so i have brimestone technically. I got the anti-gravity tear power up and don't want it. If i pick up brimstone from the dark room will it get rid of the anti-gravity tears?
I wouldn't think so. Anti-gravity isn't really something that can be overwritten.
zombieshavebrains
I have not used cocaine
That's unfortunate. I really don't like the anti-gravity right now but i'll still try to beat it.
Get some good tears up and you're set.
I had this going for me one run. Brimstone +anti gravity + high tear rate . I shared this video a while back.
http://youtu.be/0HkgXK_Vu20
zombieshavebrains
I have not used cocaine
Man i wish i got stuff that increased my range and fire rate like that. I at least beat the lamb just now for the first time.
The Cool One
Member
Hey guys does the seed glitch work on the latest update for vita/ps4?
Bah, what a dumb run. I was very powerful, but I missed boss rush room by 4 seconds. I had a prayer card, but only one devil room spawned and it had Krampus. I had great dps, but huge hitbox and no orbitals so dodging damage on It Lives was really hard.
In the end, a run that seemed great but ultimately I accomplished absolutely nothing. Bah.
In the end, a run that seemed great but ultimately I accomplished absolutely nothing. Bah.
Awesome, first floor D6 with 3 batteries and 17 cents on the floor! This is gonna be a really sweet start for Samson! Oh, wait, curse of the mothercunting blind...
The mod that does nothing but remove that shit can't come soon enough. It's to the point where it makes me rage quit.
The mod that does nothing but remove that shit can't come soon enough. It's to the point where it makes me rage quit.
Awesome, first floor D6 with 3 batteries and 17 cents on the floor! This is gonna be a really sweet start for Samson! Oh, wait, curse of the mothercunting blind...
The mod that does nothing but remove that shit can't come soon enough. It's to the point where it makes me rage quit.
I don't get this. It's part of the challenge of the game. It's a roguelike. Randomness (ie not knowing your item) is a risk situation. You don't have to pick items up if you don't want to take that risk.
But with the original BoI curses you could negate their effect by playing good enough. Rebirth curses are worse and it doesn't matter if you play well or not, you can't overcome their effect.
Makes it even more annoying when you play hard mode since you get a curse nearly every floor.
But that's not the right logic for a roguelite design. There's no calculated risk or strategy involved whatsoever, it's just either you take the chance or you don't. It either means grabbing something that might ruin your entire run or forces you to just avoid an entire floor, with a potential 5-10+ items missed (rerolls, shop, devil room, boss room, treasure room, secret room). If you don't want angel rooms, which you don't since they suck, it just forces you to take whatever's in your first devil room. This is like the definition of a completely uninteresting challenge. All you're doing is tossing the dice, with no thought behind it at all.
In fact, I'd argue that it removes thought and strategy from the game. The situation I described above, with the D6 and 3 batteries, was very interesting because I had to decide between rerolling shop (with 2 items in it) or the boss drop (I really didn't want HP). Curse of the Blind just negated that entire dilemma and forced me to make the simplest, most mindless choice possible.
SerTapTap
Member
Anyone trying for 100% collection on PS4/Vita should just use the seed exploit with BASE MENT. You'll easily plow through the entire item room, devil deal and shop item pools, eventually I had loki's horn mutant spider telepathic brimstone knives and was clearing floors (item room, boss and shop included) in 1 minute each or less. Not sure Angel Rooms can even spawn in the basement though, I didn't see any Secret Room items and even Book of Revs didn't seem to spawn enough Harbingers (I got one. ONE) to get Meat Boy/Bandage Girl, but I got basically everything else.
It's amazing how seed abuse fixes these stupid game design ideas in an ENJOYABLE way. Like it's not just instant "here's all the items, you don't have to play The Lost", collecting all items in one run in BASE MENT is a ton of fun and a great cap-off after you've already unlocked/beaten everything, and lets you experience some really rare combinations of effects. And The Lost should really, REALLY just start with Holy Mantle. It's still very much a challenge especially by the end, and means you wouldn't need to restart until you get holy mantle and let's be honest that's how basically everyone did it anyway.
Also, savescumming is terrible, but you might want to do it (just upload your save or keep it on your Vita/PS4) just before unlocking any trophy so you don't have something insanely hard to redo break and not give you the trophy. Not sure it'll work for sure, but worst case you have a save file before failing to unlock the trophy for when/if they actually fix the trophies.
There's nothing challenging, interesting or risky about collecting all items (spam D6 and reset), The Lost (spam reset until holy mantel) or curse of the blind (RNG potentially fucks you over in ways varying from minor to impossible to overcome, alternately you lose a floor's worth of items through no fault of your own). That's all stupid bullshit and should never have been included in the game in the first place.
It's really just Curse of the Blind that sucks that much. And Curse of Darkness on Vita but that's really just the gamma problem, everything that causes Darkness (those wall demons and Dark One) is way too dark on Vita even at max brightness indoors.
It's amazing how seed abuse fixes these stupid game design ideas in an ENJOYABLE way. Like it's not just instant "here's all the items, you don't have to play The Lost", collecting all items in one run in BASE MENT is a ton of fun and a great cap-off after you've already unlocked/beaten everything, and lets you experience some really rare combinations of effects. And The Lost should really, REALLY just start with Holy Mantle. It's still very much a challenge especially by the end, and means you wouldn't need to restart until you get holy mantle and let's be honest that's how basically everyone did it anyway.
Also, savescumming is terrible, but you might want to do it (just upload your save or keep it on your Vita/PS4) just before unlocking any trophy so you don't have something insanely hard to redo break and not give you the trophy. Not sure it'll work for sure, but worst case you have a save file before failing to unlock the trophy for when/if they actually fix the trophies.
There's nothing challenging, interesting or risky about collecting all items (spam D6 and reset), The Lost (spam reset until holy mantel) or curse of the blind (RNG potentially fucks you over in ways varying from minor to impossible to overcome, alternately you lose a floor's worth of items through no fault of your own). That's all stupid bullshit and should never have been included in the game in the first place.
It's really just Curse of the Blind that sucks that much. And Curse of Darkness on Vita but that's really just the gamma problem, everything that causes Darkness (those wall demons and Dark One) is way too dark on Vita even at max brightness indoors.
I Wanna Be The Guy
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Does beating Mega Satan actually count for anything in this game? I ask because it's the only end boss that isn't tracked on the character select screen, and I don't remember unlocking anything the one time I did beat it.
I believe that counts as the final ending, but I think that's it. Kind of odd that there is so little fanfare for dealing with the hardest boss in the game.
SerTapTap
Member
Also the most fun boss. It's so lame you can't reach him on every run and there's so little incentive to fight him (also, if you beat the other final boss and die to Mega Satan does it ruin your streak?).
But yeah I think it's only an ending, the Save icon, Real Plat god's ending completion, and of course the enjoyment of beating him.
I'd hazard a guess that he's not a completion mark boss because it's a pain in the ass to even reach him on a normal run
Being a pain in the ass doesn't stop them from having The Lost.
SerTapTap
Member
Rotten Baby makes it possible, also ideally get some extra babies from Devil Deals, my Demon Baby saved my ass in that one. Lil Brim would be even better (but lol 2 hearts). Rotten Baby is sorta weird, I try to hover around an enemy until the attack fly gets aggro, then you can safely retreat and several more flies will spawn and attack the same target. If you can get Boomerang it's also mildly useful, or even better Krampus' head. I had Tammy's Head in my run, not terrible for normal rooms but useless damage output for bosses.
True. I'd like to see more focus on the True Final Boss in the expansion, including a permanent unlock or at least some way to guarantee he shows up. Fighting him with Azazel is intense since you have to get SO close
Palette Swap
Member
I kind of wondered how viable an endless basement run was to unlock every item, as this seemed more interesting to me than refilling until you got a scenario where you could abuse D6.
I understand the reasoning why seeded runs should prevent unlocks but there might be a balance to be found where certain seeds should become complete mods with things unlocking while playing in these modes. Just put a high enough barrier of entry to these modes to balance them out.
Typically, if someone has unlocked Godhead, open up an endless Basement mode for them to legitimately see every item in the game in one run.
It's also a requisite for Godhead.
So basically, there's no achievement or trophy that explicitly tracks it but you need to have done it to unlock every ending and every item.
Edit 2: I'd also like a better presented library where you could view every enemy and boss you've faced with K/D stats, etc.
I understand the reasoning why seeded runs should prevent unlocks but there might be a balance to be found where certain seeds should become complete mods with things unlocking while playing in these modes. Just put a high enough barrier of entry to these modes to balance them out.
Typically, if someone has unlocked Godhead, open up an endless Basement mode for them to legitimately see every item in the game in one run.
Yeah, by itself, it gives you the final ending and changes the icon of your save file.
It's also a requisite for Godhead.
So basically, there's no achievement or trophy that explicitly tracks it but you need to have done it to unlock every ending and every item.
Edit 2: I'd also like a better presented library where you could view every enemy and boss you've faced with K/D stats, etc.
joshmitchell
Neo Member
Each time you beat the game, does the level progression become longer?
After the first time I beat the game and played a new run, more levels were added before facing mom.
After the first time I beat the game and played a new run, more levels were added before facing mom.
I Wanna Be The Guy
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Lil Brimstone was how I got Family Man done.
YianGaruga
Banned
Not before next year. According to Nicalis, the patch was submitted to SCEE and SCEA simultaneously, but SCEE decided to "schedule it" for a release next year.
Yeah idk
Even Lil' Brimstone wasn't doing much damage for me.
SerTapTap
Member
Not exactly, but multiple events in the game will eventually make new runs harder, longer or contain more items. You're not done yet, to say the least.
He's not amazing, but if you get into the rhythm of his shots (after the first shot you do NOT need to wait for his cheeks to puff up all the way) you can do decent enough damage to kill any boss. Charge, release, then hold again, a benefit of Lil Brim is he charges WHILE firing unlike your brimstone. Works best with facebuttons IMO since it's a tap release action.
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