Nope, just selected ones on the start and during the race (before pitstops)
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Nope, just selected ones on the start and during the race (before pitstops)
And the cars that are tested were the 2 teams considered most competitive. If this is supposed to be some sort of randomized testing, that's really suspicious.
If your car finishes the race under the minimum weight you will be automatically DQ'd. Not entirely for safety reasons but for creating a equal performance basis for everyone.
This is actually for safety reasons after what happened in Spa.
They only test 1 tyre in each car.
Celebrimbor
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Sounds like they have to DSQ the Mercs.
penalty has to be meaningful, it's ridiculous to "punish" a car capable of finishing 50+ secs ahead had the team wanted to (Hamilton was cruising) but just to end in the same position the car finished, why bother investigating then, this sport is becoming the most boring thing ever to watch in TV, put a random guy in a Mercedes -> start engine -> win race, Awesome !
it would be 50+ seconds if Mercedes pushed the car to its actual limit, so yeah, the Mercedes is an on-rails rocket, there's nothing you can do with different machinery.
it would be 50+ seconds if Mercedes pushed the car to its actual limit, so yeah, the Mercedes is an on-rails rocket, there's nothing you can do with different machinery.
Celebrimbor
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Tell that to Rosberg.
Terbinator
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I'm not saying they are, because that would be foolish. The covering up though can only be done be carried out by the driver - Lewis drive faster - 1s pulled out.
Is it? Cheating here is implying performance gain somewhere (which will have an effect elsewhere).
Well one team was apparently cheating
Yeah, but besides that. Hamilton has had an advantage all season long.
brotkasten
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Rosberg didn't press the A button for Awesome on his wheel. That's why that happened.
Are you sure about that? Can be but doesn't make much sense imo.
If there were not issues why ask Hamilton to gain more gap? They could just tell to him to push because there were a possibility of a penalty, I don't see it as something that difficult to say, unless of course it was against the new rules. Anyway, I don't think they have done this on purpose, Mercedes could probably win every race not even running as fast as they can, like they probably already do to be honest, lol.
The Incarnation
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Hard to penalise them in this race without this benefiting Rosberg. So it's either going to be a fine or a grid penalty, which would slightly benefit Hamilton if it's the latter. So probably a fine.
PdotMichael
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Why should that matter at all?
We never hear in radio comms that they inform drivers that they are under investigation, only if they get penalty from stewards
PdotMichael
Banned
Well, he would without Hamilton.
I think he failed the QTE prompt to avoid engine failure.
No? Vettel would have!
Both should get the same punishment.
They just mentioned that on Sky; apparently the test happens while the cars are on the grid with the blankets off, which is a small enough window that they only have time to test the first two rows.
Well, they have a hearing at stewards in 5 minutes, so Mercedes will probably throw Pirelli guys under the bus
The Incarnation
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Because Rosberg didn't finish, so no lost points for him. Whereas Hamilton could lose points, which isn't fair if both of their cars breached the rules.
Is that what happened to Kimi as well? Fingers getting slow in his old age?
olore
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that fxxxing wanxxr can fxxx the fxxx off
PdotMichael
Banned
I'm not sure if I get that logic. But it doesn't matter penalities aren't supposed to be fair in that regard. If the team did something DSQ worthy than they should get that penalty and it doesn't matter that Rosberg had an engine failure in the race.
Terbinator
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Hamilton saying too much.
Exactly, he has experience with this sort of thing :^)
theignoramus
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The asshole who engineered a crash to win a race.
You get more grip at the expense of top speed and durability. FIA began to enforce minimum pressure more strictly after Silverstone 2013.
He shouldn't even be in F1, to be honest. They should ban he and Flavio for the lifetime
brotkasten
Member
Yeah, it's very silly. Total waste of time. If the tire pressure thing was deliberate, it wasn't his decision.
aspiegamer
Member
Any DQs would be interesting to challenge. Only the front 2 rows get check because, screw it, it's too much effort and who cares about the safety of the other 16 cars? Improving positions of cars that were not checked sounds like the sort of thing you could base an appeal on.
Hell, I didn't even know the tyre pressures were a regulation. They were guidelines as of last race, with Pirelli basically asking the teams to pretty please follow recommendations. They only worded it that way because they don't bother to test all the cars, so, hey, honor system? Hah. Offhandedly I can't find anything in the regulations (sporting or technical) that mentions tyre pressures.
This will be fun to see play out. If it's part of the regulations as a hard set-in-stone policy to obey the given tyre parameters I guess there's really no defense against that.
Hell, I didn't even know the tyre pressures were a regulation. They were guidelines as of last race, with Pirelli basically asking the teams to pretty please follow recommendations. They only worded it that way because they don't bother to test all the cars, so, hey, honor system? Hah. Offhandedly I can't find anything in the regulations (sporting or technical) that mentions tyre pressures.
This will be fun to see play out. If it's part of the regulations as a hard set-in-stone policy to obey the given tyre parameters I guess there's really no defense against that.
Wax Free Vanilla
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Mercedes tyre inflater caught in the act:
Mercedes tyre inflater caught in the act:
That's a right front tire and how do we know it stopped at 18.5? Pointless image.
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Another note is they only had those tires for half the race, until the pit stop.
Plus it has a warmer on
Terbinator
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Fair point raised on Sky F1 via Twitter: if the tyre was known to be low pre-race why were they allowed to race and not forced to pit?
Mercedes tyre inflater caught in the act:
The big 'FRONT' wrote on the tyre warmer makes me suspect that is actually a front tyre...
I do not know, I thought those were just guidelines from Pirelli about pressure and camber settings
You can't just come in here with facts, buddy.
Definitely, compare that interview with his interviews last year massive difference.
Sorry my bad...
Those bastards have fitted a front tyre to the rear, complete with it's warmer and steering mechanism... and nose cone! CHEATS!!! CHEATTSSSS!!!!!!!!!