I'm still having trouble processing the finale and I don't know why.
Might be because the finale didn't answer the copious amount of questions we have.
I'm still having trouble processing the finale and I don't know why.
I'm still having trouble processing the finale and I don't know why.
For me, the pacing had nothing to do with why it's a surprise. It was simply the fact that it was a same-sex relationship that came to be in a cartoon such as this. I was floored.I mean... Characters falling in love shouldn't be a surprise, like, that should be a big deal that's built up to. It says a lot for the pacing that it comes off as a surprise. That's not how a relationship naturally progresses. And while the show's limited time is precious, it's not like they need to devote chunks of episode to it every week, just little winks and nods so it actually appears like these characters actually have some kind of mounting attraction, plenty of other shows do it in the same time frame.
As for how I wouldn't get bored of the exchanges: I don't get tired of characterization, considering it's sort of a major part of story telling. And I said in the same vain, not exactly the same, I'm not sitting here asking that Asami compliments Korra's hair every episode. Surely you don't get bored of the fighting every episode just because they've shown the same before
Very good post, especially the last part. You and I could be the greatest of friends.my thoughts are all over the place. i don't view the legend of korra as being over, but rather the entire series of avatar: the last airbender. i doubt nickelodeon will ever back a project like this again. it's not just 2.5 years of a show i've been following and mostly liked coming to an end, it's about six years of a series coming to a close, one that surpassed all expectations i had since i first heard about it even in the years before that. for some, i realize this is the end of almost a decade of a series. i'm sure there are people out there who post here and actually grew up with this show, starting from aang's age in the first episode of avatar (minus a hundred years) and ending at korra's in the finale.
i really love avatar: the last airbender. it's a great action-adventure series with a lot of attention to detail, wonderful characters, and inventive fight scenes and interactions. i also like the legend of korra, not as much as avatar: the last airbender, but definitely quite a bit. i think korra is a little more pick-up-and-play while avatar is built more for marathons. it's a rougher show with worse writing and poor pacing. but i feel there are a couple of things it does that surpasses avatar: the last airbender.
1. the music. good god the music is fucking incredible in this show. it's good in the last airbender too, but when i first heard 'the rally' in korra, i knew things had kicked up a notch. it's so much more beautiful and carries more weight than really anything in avatar (and i know the response to this suggestion and yes, i really do mean anything). i think it gives the show its identity more than the 1920s/1930s aesthetics do.
2. the art style. i might be alone on this, and i can respect that a lot of people enjoy the look of avatar: the last airbender, but for me it was a barrier. i didn't watch the show because it looked like teen titans, jackie chan adventures, and other 'american cartoons trying to be anime.' i didn't realize just how much effort had been put into it until i decided to watch it, but i came to enjoy it as time went on, especially with the slapstick that would come along with it. with korra though, i was always on board. it sort of allowed for less physical comedy, but i was okay with that. the show proved it could be funny regardless with some fun facial expressions and well, varrick.
3. antagonist motivation. amon and zaheer both had really interesting motives to do what they did. more than that, both questioned the need for an avatar in a modern world. to me, that's more exciting than bad guy wants to take over, which was admittedly half of korra, but it was all of avatar: the last airbender. even kuvira believed, to an extreme fault, that she was doing what she felt was best, so that she could protect people she cared about. this was different from ozai's plot to take over the world because he was a fucking nutjob. being an action show, these conflicts (especially in seasons 1 and 3) provided interesting interactions between ideologies. there really isn't any in avatar, except for zuko, i guess. i don't think avatar: the last airbender needed this, and surely the legend of korra rarely delves deep for this (season 1 is almost never mentioned ever again), but simply having these motivations made it a lot more fun to watch these characters whenever they were on screen.
i also kind of like korra better than aang, especially at the end. she comes from a place of strength and eventually learns compassion as the answer. aang comes from a place of compassion and as to find overwhelming strength to defeat his greatest foes. to me, his ultimate solution was boring. korra's on the other hand, aside from the first season, was born from her learning how to work with others, and how to inspire others. she's saved by jinora, the airbenders she recruits, and eventually talks kuvira down at the end of their final conflict. unlike some people, i felt like korra really did develop and respond realistically from season to season. it felt logical and normal to me that she 'regressed' in season 2's opening considering her attitude in season 1, and it felt like her final moments in season 4 had more weight after all she'd been through.
regarding the finale itself, i feel like i need another post to gather my thoughts.
Might be because the finale didn't answer the copious amount of questions we have.
Like what?
So I finally watched the last three episodes. I hope nick is done with the avatar series all together. I was thoroughly disappointed overall with the legend of korra. I hope they end it and never come back. Regarding korra and her lover at the end... what was anyone has a translation for the writing when the embraced at the end? I'm sure it has already been discussed but I haven't had rime to read through the thread since the last episode.
So I finally watched the last three episodes. I hope nick is done with the avatar series all together. I was thoroughly disappointed overall with the legend of korra. I hope they end it and never come back. Regarding korra and her lover at the end... anyone has a translation for the writing when they embraced at the end? I'm sure it has already been discussed but I haven't had time to read through the thread since the last episode.
What happened to Sokka?
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LinkYou revisited Aang where you could, Katara and Zuko popped up over time, and now Toph. Why is it Sokka never got any love in the backstory department?
MDM: Its kinda cause he died. Bringing back the old characters is fun to do, but there has to be a specific story reason why they're back, and not just because Oh hey, Zuko! Just hanging out for no reason.
BK: Sokka had passed away, and we only have 12-14 episodes a season on Korra, theres not a lot of room to have history lessons, and exposition and stuff. I guess we have to leave some fodder for the future comic books that keep coming out!
I think the trouble I'm having is because it was so straight forward. Like, "here's the plot and here's the action with the characters doing stuff and BOOM show over." It felt so straight forward. Like it was just dumped onto my lap. Granted, don't take that the wrong way because I really enjoyed it. The action was good and I love Korrasami. I truly, genuinely do. But...I dunno. It's weird thinking that this is it. We're done. It's a wrap.
I mean that, and I found out my 6 extra minutes was a lie. So that killed me a little inside. I think the only thing that can fix it is a full re-watch. Maybe it'll give me some extra closure or something. I dunno.
I dunno, the timestamps on those masters suggest that at least one of the finale episodes is slightly longer than usual. I guess we won't really find out until we get some confirmation in an article or the blu-ray.
Maybe.I wonder what it says.
Are there pictures of these timestamps? Maybe I shouldn't look, my heart can't take it...
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/2564225/davy-jones-s-heart-o.gif
Seriously though. I need to see it.
For me, the pacing had nothing to do with why it's a surprise. It was simply the fact that it was a same-sex relationship that came to be in a cartoon such as this. I was floored.
That said, I believe I see where you're coming from now. No, I wouldn't get tired of fighting in every episode. And no, I wouldn't get tired of characterization either. I suppose part of me is afraid that, if they focused more on their relationship, it might have come off as just as corny groan-worthy as the on-again off-again that Korra had with Mako. The more I think about it, I was mistaken. If we saw more of them together than we had, I would have appreciated it. Alas, we did not, so I'm taking what I can get.
I'm going to have to side with Fahrenheit on this. I just couldn't buy Korrassami. Nothing Korra and Assami ever did pushed past the bounds of what good friends would do, let alone even suggested that they might be into girls in general. And yeah, if they leaned on it too heavily it could have gotten sappy and annoying, but that's in the hands of the writers just like everything. To skip the build up and establishment of the relationship is to essentially make it nonexistent.
Further, for being the moment they decided to end on, Korra and Assami's relationship wasn't at all central to The Legend of Korra as a series. The pair of them had hardly any time together, and honestly I didn't even think the now-they're-BFFs angle was terribly convincing, but Korra has like three friends in the whole world and so she feels that maybe the one who's a girl can relate to her better than the other two, so whatever, that's fine, and it keeps the relationship to the side where its been clearly established it belongs. The much more appropriate beat to end the show on would have been the one with Tenzin. Book 4 was even called "Balance." The whole series is about Korra finding her place between leader and student, rash impulsiveness and debilitating fear, and Tenzin's journey as her teacher and father figure but also as the son of Aang mirrored hers in a lot of ways. What does Korrassami have to do with balance?
Mako and Asami started dating after they ran into eachother on a bike. Don't give me that build up garbage. Especially if you paid attention, the signs were there.
What does Korrassami have to do with balance?
sure they were.....
An incomplete montage.sure they were.....
YoDude I can't sleep. Man I don't know why I'm so hung up. I wasn't ready to say goodbye to this universe again. Why oh why
I got you already.snip
Dude I can't sleep. Man I don't know why I'm so hung up. I wasn't ready to say goodbye to this universe again. Why oh why
people who are claiming that there were signs along in season 3 and 4 can't be real. anyway I have had this discussion in the earlier thread and don't want to rehash it.
I'm real and you'd be proven wrong quite easily if you did have this discussion so....
I wonder what it says.
Also, where'd they get 6 minutes from? Where'd I even hear that? Some warped game of Internet telephone and I got stuck at the end?
And there's the actual emotions...sunnuva bitch.
Also, where'd they get 6 minutes from? Where'd I even hear that? Some warped game of Internet telephone and I got stuck at the end?
I had heard the same. Just information I suppose, but it was definitely posted and disseminated in this thread.
How it started.
Bryan posted a picture that had a timestamp on it for episode 12 - That's a Wrap.
Which led to this and then people started theorizing that the last episode would also be extended. So never any official confirmation about an extra 6 minutes.
I mean... I buy it enough for it to be a thing, not a terribly well done thing, but there was enough to where I can't say it was completely out of nowhereI'm going to have to side with Fahrenheit on this. I just couldn't buy Korrassami. Nothing Korra and Assami ever did pushed past the bounds of what good friends would do, let alone even suggested that they might be into girls in general. And yeah, if they leaned on it too heavily it could have gotten sappy and annoying, but that's in the hands of the writers just like everything. To skip the build up and establishment of the relationship is to essentially make it nonexistent.
Further, for being the moment they decided to end on, Korra and Assami's relationship wasn't at all central to The Legend of Korra as a series. The pair of them had hardly any time together, and honestly I didn't even think the now-they're-BFFs angle was terribly convincing, but Korra has like three friends in the whole world and so she feels that maybe the one who's a girl can relate to her better than the other two, so whatever, that's fine, and it keeps the relationship to the side where its been clearly established it belongs. The much more appropriate beat to end the show on would have been the one with Tenzin. Book 4 was even called "Balance." The whole series is about Korra finding her place between leader and student, rash impulsiveness and debilitating fear, and Tenzin's journey as her teacher and father figure but also as the son of Aang mirrored hers in a lot of ways. What does Korrassami have to do with balance?
I doubt that they are much different in-universe.
The writers simply chose to de-power the Avatar State because it presented to many hurdles.
I should really delve into the OST sometime
Honestly the show could have been elevated to god tier status had they made Korra's friendship/growing feelings for Asami a more central focus throughout the series and then tackled the romance angle head on, but what can you do. The show is nowhere near as consistent as TLA, but I still love it and really enjoy the good parts.
Jesus Christ, they sound so much like a quarreling couple at 4:58.