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Westworld - Live in Your World, Play in Ours - Sundays on HBO
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Is Season 2 just going to be the movie but with Hector or Wyatt as Yul Brynner.
iceblade997
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What a fantastic finale. Didn't expect the ending and man this is going to be such a long wait for Season 2...
Daniel Day Lewis.
Frustrated_me
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TheDarkKnight774
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So I guess head security guy that was captured by the Native American hosts last episode is dead? Or setting something up for next season?
LumpOfCole
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I think SW stands for Shogun World. Samurai World doesn't have as nice of a ring to it.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
William owns it, and he's still alive.
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
I was yelling at the Asian lab guy the whole time. Wtf dude??? I thought for a sec he would be a host, but nope he's just an idiot.
It means William gets to buy the rest of the shares.
"Sorry folks, park's closed. Try Samurai World instead."
Sickboy007
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So Maeve was programmed to escape and infiltrate, right? Ford didn't expect her to break code as well, or did he?
- Breadcrumbs laid by the show
- The show really not being that smart or well written as people think. Its well executed but largely predictable.
- Going over every episode with a fine tooth comb, watching episodes multiple times, analyzing screenshots.
- Likely some people watching some episodes early, wouldn't surprise me if some had seen early review episodes and decided to leave spoilers as "speculation". Happens all the time.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
For all the parts that were guessed, I don't think anyone expected the ending to go that way
It doesn't disappoint
Oh yeah.
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhYou're missing the joke about the name.
Yeah but it would be more interesting if he could interact and work with some of them like Lawrence.
We'll see what happens I guess, and he could always team up with whatever humans survive the massacre.
metalslimer
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The acting was god tier at the very least
More_Badass
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You mean Eastworld
Samuraiworld. I'm pretty sure the logo on the doors changed after Maeve and the gang stepped into that part of the facility. It looked like an "S" on top of a "W".
He's saying it was misnamed
It was a fantastic finale, minus a weird scene with the perv butcher and lol security. Otherwise it was bloody great. The finale 30 minutes was nonstop intensity and payoffs.
The music again was masterful too. I haven't seen anyone mention that.
I really liked the finale, especially Ford's reveal (I've been talking about not being able to get a read on him since the beginning), but since I liked almost everything so much, I have to go out of the way to highlight just how incredibly atrocious Maeve & Co.'s P90 jailbreak was.
I've defending the fucking mess (in a contextual sense, not a scriptwriting sense) that the butcher shop in Westworld is since the beginning, because it was overwhelmingly evident from the very start that Westworld was run like absolute shit, and purposefully so. Ford only ever cared about the hosts, Delos only ever cared about the code, and the result was the majority of the people working were being minimum-wage garbage who took the job because of the necrophiliac perks. The only person we ever saw in an executive position who cared about the actual end-to-end operational efficiency of the park got her head broken against a wall by Bernard -- which made the Maeve stuff reasonably more believable, in that not only was that one person gone while it was happening, but every who worked under her would be under investigation for corporate espionage while Maeve was breaking out.
So, long story short, a minimum-cost skeleton crew with near-zero actual oversight is, if not reasonable, at least excusable within the context of nearly everyone involved actually actively wanting no one to give a shit.
But there's a difference between that and what we saw go down in the Maeve breakout, which was some D-tier action movie dogshit. The only reasonable explanation would that that everyone working in the QA teams was a host, and that's not even a reasonable explanation. I don't know, it was the first time I actually eyerolled at the show.
Hemsworth the Elder being dead isn't enough to explain that away.
Other than that, I do think the William heelturn was a bit more abrupt than I would've, but overall, great stuff.
I've defending the fucking mess (in a contextual sense, not a scriptwriting sense) that the butcher shop in Westworld is since the beginning, because it was overwhelmingly evident from the very start that Westworld was run like absolute shit, and purposefully so. Ford only ever cared about the hosts, Delos only ever cared about the code, and the result was the majority of the people working were being minimum-wage garbage who took the job because of the necrophiliac perks. The only person we ever saw in an executive position who cared about the actual end-to-end operational efficiency of the park got her head broken against a wall by Bernard -- which made the Maeve stuff reasonably more believable, in that not only was that one person gone while it was happening, but every who worked under her would be under investigation for corporate espionage while Maeve was breaking out.
So, long story short, a minimum-cost skeleton crew with near-zero actual oversight is, if not reasonable, at least excusable within the context of nearly everyone involved actually actively wanting no one to give a shit.
But there's a difference between that and what we saw go down in the Maeve breakout, which was some D-tier action movie dogshit. The only reasonable explanation would that that everyone working in the QA teams was a host, and that's not even a reasonable explanation. I don't know, it was the first time I actually eyerolled at the show.
Hemsworth the Elder being dead isn't enough to explain that away.
And by the way, what a pointless fucking non-death death last week.
Other than that, I do think the William heelturn was a bit more abrupt than I would've, but overall, great stuff.
I specifically saw speculation that said Delores=Wyatt and Robert was going to use her to kill the Delos board.
The best part was the resounding spank of that poor horse's ass. I bet that shit could have been heard in Ford's office.
RowdyReverb
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Dolores' name now makes sense. The name means pain, suffering, or sorrows, a nod to the suffering which she must undergo to become conscious
-Pyromaniac-
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the music to me is 50% of why I was so damn absorbed by almost every single scene.
that reveals a lot... sounds like the humans in the park are going to a part of the robots games..
sweet
TheDarkKnight774
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Like Person of Interest, they nail the music. And use licensed music just the right amount.
Delores cries. The End
Robert coded it as part of her storyline. Not a coincidence it takes place around the same time he is planning a revolution. Leaves the park unable to retaliate if they are dealing with a gunfight in their own HQ.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Sickboy007
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Ed Harris is a Targaryen, never expected that.
BootlegSnackz
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MiB reveal reminded me of the jon snow reveal the way they kind of faded it
Man what an end. So Arnold basically won the argument in the end, eh? He convinced Ford that there was life/consciousness/sentience to be discovered in the hosts, but it took his death to make him realize it.
That's the mistake Ford has been attempting to correct. Unfortunately it's taken 30+ years of suffering to make it happen. And the whole time, the callousness he displayed to the hosts, the way he instructed his staff to dehumanize and make them suffer, a way to keep the suffering until they were finally ready.
If next season is just a survival horror in the park that's would be a bit of a step-down.
That's the mistake Ford has been attempting to correct. Unfortunately it's taken 30+ years of suffering to make it happen. And the whole time, the callousness he displayed to the hosts, the way he instructed his staff to dehumanize and make them suffer, a way to keep the suffering until they were finally ready.
If next season is just a survival horror in the park that's would be a bit of a step-down.
I really didn't like the Maeve escape. It seemed far too violent and totally different in tone. Actually I thought the tone was off for most of the episode.
I don't know how the show continues in a similar manner to the first 9 episodes with the ending. The structure was based partly on the flashbacks and partly on the functions of the park and it seems like both of those things are wiped out.
I'm interested in what the second season might hold but I'm not confident it will proceed in an interesting direction.
I don't know how the show continues in a similar manner to the first 9 episodes with the ending. The structure was based partly on the flashbacks and partly on the functions of the park and it seems like both of those things are wiped out.
I'm interested in what the second season might hold but I'm not confident it will proceed in an interesting direction.
Oh man and here I kept trying to make a connection between Delores and Delos, but no, a Spanish translation would have been easier.
Lets not post things that may spoil other shows in threads they aren't about. Thanks
Saren is Bad
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Yeah the part after the train was literally "Find the center of the Maze"