The incident was Delores' rampage
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The incident was Delores' rampage
This is one of the things that actually bothers me. Not only did they hint in the early episodes there was an incident after the park opened but when Ford and MIB talked Williams speech about saving the park didn't sound like money and he said something involving Dolores and Arnold making sound like what he did was in park.
Plus the line by security was less "leave him alone he is the owner" and more "he once did something so great he earned the right to do whatever he wanted".
But yeah they dropped the ball with that plot line.
I like that, would give a reason to bring Jimmi Simpson back, but as far as we know from Jimmi's mouth that's not happening.
Bernard actually said they havnt had a critical failure in over 30 years. At least complain about something valid.
The line only really hinted that he was a VIP for some reason. Him being majority share holder certainly warrants that.
Amazing episode, so glad it didn't end on a cliff-hanger.
My biggest question is what on earth is to stop the real world army or police coming in and putting an end to it all once the news gets out, unless they really are on their own little planet somewhere.
Adored the sudden samurai world reveal, but looking back not sure if that really works in terms of the plot. Why wouldn't any of the Delos team have mentioned it sooner, or why wouldn't we see more Asians and samurais in the retirement room or workshops. I hope they have thought it through rather than just throwing it in there for the sake of it.
Would love to see snippets of the other worlds also uprising, and then the 'worlds' themselves fighting between themselves for control of Delos. Samurais vs Romans vs Cowboys - bring it on!
My biggest question is what on earth is to stop the real world army or police coming in and putting an end to it all once the news gets out, unless they really are on their own little planet somewhere.
Adored the sudden samurai world reveal, but looking back not sure if that really works in terms of the plot. Why wouldn't any of the Delos team have mentioned it sooner, or why wouldn't we see more Asians and samurais in the retirement room or workshops. I hope they have thought it through rather than just throwing it in there for the sake of it.
Would love to see snippets of the other worlds also uprising, and then the 'worlds' themselves fighting between themselves for control of Delos. Samurais vs Romans vs Cowboys - bring it on!
... yeah because there werent any asian people in late 1800s american's west coast
all these railroads appearing out of nowhere. crazy.
Yeah, I just think some of the dialogue and delivery hinted at something that did not materialize was disappointing in a show that pretty much laid groundwork for all its swerves.
Doesn't ruin anything though I still think the show is great and am satisfied with it.
Stubbs says "That guest gets whatever he wants".
It doesn't imply anything you are suggesting.
Doesn't he say something also about he earned it?
Besides your picking one line out of a vacuum what I am saying is contextual with a few scenes including his conversation with Ford where he says that Dolores was Arnold's tool to destroy the park but he stopped that, which obviously now meant money but with the different timeline loops and William and Dolores being one of those main loops led many including me to believe William was going to stop Dolores from doing something. The only people who argued against the theory were those who felt there was only one timeline and William was not MIB.
Again I am not upset it played out the way it did but don't act like I misconstrued one line for a personal theory because that's not true.
Id guess that the news wont get out, Delos will probably try to cover it up and get things under control by itself. Particularly since an opponent thats "fighting to win" is exactly what William wanted them to be.
InfiniteBento
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Are you sure? We don't know her that she still isn't following a narrative since she broke that tablet before Bernard could finish his sentence. Unless I totally missed another sign?
I think the next step on her path was "infiltrate mainland", which she very nearly did....but got off the train and (imo) broke the narrative path
InfiniteBento
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Ohhhhh, this clarifies so much of that finale scene with her.
Makes me like her character even more.
Air Zombie Meat
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Maeve was supposed to discover her programmed plan and be forced with the realization that she still wasn't thinking for herself. This is the thing that was meant to trigger her own thought processes. She had the choice to leave on the train and continue following her programmed urge to escape or not. The fact that she didn't is a success from one pov.
The Lamonster
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I liked that the finale confirmed that Felix is a human, since we had been wondering.
Shogmaster
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History of America aside, show me one instance of an Asian host in any part of actual Westworld (The inside facility don't count). But then again, that Asian host that beats up Clem in the set up demo was I guess another clue.
Shogmaster
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Is he though? Just because Maeve said? She was still under Ford's control at that point. He could very well be a host repurposed from SW.
Would that even last a season though? Doesn't sound like it would take much to re-take the park from androids equipped with 19th century firearms and pitchforks and axes.
Zoe
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I know you don't want inside the facility, but there's at least one Asian-looking mold on Ford's wall.
The Lamonster
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Kind of a dumb plot thread to leave hanging between seasons.
I mean would it even be that interesting if S2 revealed that he was a host? Who would care?
They have access to the most advanced 3d printers on the planet, if they need something they can make it.
Zoe
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Well, it depends on whether they can infiltrate the underground facility and understand how to use it. Maeve can do everything cause her intelligence has been bumped up to the max. We don't know how the others would fare.
Zoe
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That's assuming he supports the turn of events.
GuitarAtomik
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Nope.
I don't think that was in reference to bailing out the park. I interpreted it as the moment when Dolores finds the buried church and starts to really unravel and she specifically tells him everything is telling her to go to this place and, in that moment, William makes the decision to get her away from there and take her back to Sweetwater because following this path is making her increasingly crazy. He said he did it unknowingly so that would fit that event, and I think he later realized what she was going through was part of Arnold's plan and he unknowingly pulled her away from it.
Yeah, theres a pretty interesting series of shots right after Dolores kills Ford where they show Teddy and Bernard looking disturbed/shocked while one of the others begins to smile. That struck me as a hint that (#)not all hosts are going to side with Dolores.
Cornballer
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Fenderputty
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One of the reasons I think he is a human who just empathizes with her.
RatskyWatsky
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For posterity:
L+SD ratings
Episode 1: 1.96 million
Episode 2: 1.50 million
Episode 3: 2.10 million
Episode 4: 1.70 million
Episode 5: 1.50 million
Episode 6: 1.64 million
Episode 7: 1.75 million
Episode 8: 1.78 million
Episode 9: 2.09 million
Episode 10: 2.24 million
L+SD ratings
Episode 1: 1.96 million
Episode 2: 1.50 million
Episode 3: 2.10 million
Episode 4: 1.70 million
Episode 5: 1.50 million
Episode 6: 1.64 million
Episode 7: 1.75 million
Episode 8: 1.78 million
Episode 9: 2.09 million
Episode 10: 2.24 million
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I think she's not sentient. She thought she was and was leaving the park.. but then she had a sudden realization that she did in fact want her daughter and turned back to the park.
I think that was fords programming.
Zoe
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See Cornballer's post above: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=226125370&postcount=12020
It was sentience.
Fenderputty
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I mean, why would they? They're not all sentient.
Ignatz Mouse
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Just watched The Truman Show with my son (age 12) and the parallels to Westworld are pretty remarkable.
Particularly the idea of being stuck in a loop.
I suppose "sentience" in Westworld is really a metaphor for freedom and/or consciousness.
Particularly the idea of being stuck in a loop.
I suppose "sentience" in Westworld is really a metaphor for freedom and/or consciousness.
Zoe
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Makes me wonder if Maeve would be able to accept her daughter not being sentient or be willing to do what it takes to make her so.
Fenderputty
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Does Dolores understand Ford's true intent as she's blowing his head off? Ford intentionally set the scenario up for his death and the board's deaths to be her choice. I believe only Bernard understands this during that moment.
I don't believe she could accept her daughter not being sentient, which makes the second part of your question all the more interesting. I think a lot of season two will revolve around Dolores and Maeve helping other hosts transition
I don't believe she could accept her daughter not being sentient, which makes the second part of your question all the more interesting. I think a lot of season two will revolve around Dolores and Maeve helping other hosts transition
Yet. I imagine we'll see many more of them gaining sentience now.
When Bernard was telling Maeve about her script given by Ford, he mentioned a part where she gets off the train at the stop in the mainland. She was coded to do something she decided against it. As ford said, the suffering she endured as a mother losing a child was strong enough for her to disobey directives and listen to her own desires.
YesNOnoNOYes
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how would the convo upon william's return after logan's gone be?
william: "hi guys im back"
wife/others: "wheres logan?"
william: "donno. can i get control of delos now though?"
wife/others: "okay."
???
:>
william: "hi guys im back"
wife/others: "wheres logan?"
william: "donno. can i get control of delos now though?"
wife/others: "okay."
???
:>
Shambalakan
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Can't wait to see the different groups of hosts in next season. One group with Dolores, Armistice, Hector (if he's alive) and others like this guy:
And other group with Bernard, Teddy, some other hosts and maybe Maeve. I think Maeve will be a good character in next season. (what's meaning good in Westworld?!)
And other group with Bernard, Teddy, some other hosts and maybe Maeve. I think Maeve will be a good character in next season. (what's meaning good in Westworld?!)
Can't wait to see the different groups of hosts in next season. One group with Delores, Armistice, Hector (if he's alive) and others like this guy:
And other group with Bernard, Teddy, some other hosts and maybe Maeve. I think Maeve will be a good character in next season. (what's meaning good in Westworld?!)
That actor keeps popping up in shows Im watching, and everytime I think "Oh shit its Trevor!"