Doublesith
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Yo! Second episode is now up on HBO Go, Now and On Demand!
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Westworld - Live in Your World, Play in Ours - Sundays on HBO
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More_Badass
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Amazing. Probably because of the debate?
Cornballer
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They're doing an early screening of Ep 2 this weekend at NY Comic Con, too. Probably debate related overall.
Freeza Under The Shower
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At least it's not a leak? I mean, they've had that twice with GoT, if I recall correctly.
Thanks,Trump. Your bullshit is such a hit, network don't want their shows to compete with it. SMH
Thanks,Trump. Your bullshit is such a hit, network don't want their shows to compete with it. SMH
Cornballer
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Announced on discoverwestworld and elsewhere, so it's legit.
Cornballer
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Via Westworld Twitter:
BREAKING: #Westworld Narrative dept launches "Chestnut." Stream it on @HBONOW, #HBOGO & #HBO On Demand. More at http://DiscoverWestworld.com/delos #
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Please be sure to spoiler tag discussion of episode 2 until it properly airs this Sunday on the East Coast.
More_Badass
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Episode 2:
well, that answers whether the company knows or cares about the Man In Black
Simo
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Aw son of a bitch! I was playing Mafia but had to call it night for work! If I had known I would of watched it! Tomorrow then...lol
darkwing-buck
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Nice! Good looks guys!
More_Badass
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Episode 2:
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damn, this just became a robot horror movie
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now a debate on emergent system-driven gameplay versus scripted missions
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Dammit guys, I saw the thread bumped in my subscripts...I was planning to sleep, but I guess not...
Cornballer
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Ep 2:
I didn't see that coming. I'm very curious how that's going to play out since I thought he was more of a force of nature living outside the constraints of the system from the first episode. But the fact that they're letting him do it, plus there was an actual response regarding the maze is intriguing.
Ep 2:
That sequence was brutal. Really tough to watch. Also, I wonder if they're going to have Teddy-bot be massacred every episode.
More episode 2 thoughts:
- I can see what ERW was talking about in terms of this being a dream part in a lot of ways. It was fun seeing Maeve run the same sequence a few times with her programming slightly altered. Not sure how long that sort of device will remain useful to the show, but it works for now.
- I don't know where they're going with the Cullen - Lowe pairing, but I'm not finding it very interesting so far.
- Jimmi Simpson's friend seems a good candidate for a guest that gets murdered by a robot sooner or later.
- Highly entertaining seeing Ford shut down the narrative director, and whatever Ford has planned was a good tease at the end of the episode.
- I don't know where they're going with the Cullen - Lowe pairing, but I'm not finding it very interesting so far.
- Jimmi Simpson's friend seems a good candidate for a guest that gets murdered by a robot sooner or later.
- Highly entertaining seeing Ford shut down the narrative director, and whatever Ford has planned was a good tease at the end of the episode.
The Driver
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FUCK it, no way Gears will finish dling before I'm about to pass out. Gonna watch EP2 instead.
So I stayed up an hour later thanks to checking this thread...
Well the preview from last week was only for this episode so people freaking out about it spoiling the entire season were incorrect, especially how that Maeve waking up scene played out.
Wonder whats special about the gun? Can she shoot guests with it maybe?
The Man in Black is literally that guy in GTAV looking for Big Foot, like someone mentioned earlier, this episode just confirms it. Also shows that they know about it and approve of it.
Also how far gone do you have to be to suffer no empathy even if they aren't "real"? I guess that's one of the issues this show will be tackling.
Wonder whats special about the gun? Can she shoot guests with it maybe?
The Man in Black is literally that guy in GTAV looking for Big Foot, like someone mentioned earlier, this episode just confirms it. Also shows that they know about it and approve of it.
Also how far gone do you have to be to suffer no empathy even if they aren't "real"? I guess that's one of the issues this show will be tackling.
Discotheque
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Will wait until Sunday. Gotta know tho...is it good? Worthy follow up to the pilot?
More_Badass
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Episode 2:
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I need to watch it again, but was the facility underground? When Maeve runs between the buildings, I thought it looked like a sheer rock face around them
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So "violent delights have violent ends" seems to be some kind of trigger phrase, built into all the updated hosts
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Any thoughts behind how the guests enter the facility? Seems like you need to take a special train just to get to the welcome area, doesn't look like the kind of place you could enter on foot.
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And seriously, someone needs to pay the electric bill. Why are the lights flickering like a haunted house in this super high-tech advanced facility? I think that could be another indication of the underwater habitat theory
More_Badass
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Not as jam packed as the pilot, but it both answers questions and raises new interesting aspects to ponder. Plot isn't slowing down, that's for sure
And continued to highlight this is definitely an actors show
I signed up to HBO Now just for episode 2 and holy shit I can't believe how bad their web player is. no pop out, constant lagging/replaying. bah. Episode was great though! Super intriguing story so far
edit: After just watching the movie Pontypool this is actually kind of funny to see a potentially similar device
edit: After just watching the movie Pontypool this is actually kind of funny to see a potentially similar device
"violent delights have violent ends"
WhiteRabbitEXE
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Thank God for me checking this thread compulsively, lol. Were it not for here I probably would have never known it was up and not seen it until Monday night.
Well, wait, actually I was gonna watch older John Oliver episodes (only ever watched them on YouTube before getting HBO a couple weeks ago, so I'd only seen the main segments) so I would have seen it soon enough anyway. BUT WHATEVER, STILL.
Great episode, definitely keeping up the quality so far. And with how little that last preview really "spoiled" about this episode, really not worried about future ones.
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Well, wait, actually I was gonna watch older John Oliver episodes (only ever watched them on YouTube before getting HBO a couple weeks ago, so I'd only seen the main segments) so I would have seen it soon enough anyway. BUT WHATEVER, STILL.
Great episode, definitely keeping up the quality so far. And with how little that last preview really "spoiled" about this episode, really not worried about future ones.
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Yeah, it was. Everything's below ground except for that "saucer" area up top where Cullen and Sizemore were talking last episode. It's like an inverted skyscraper.
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Sure as hell seems that way.
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I still haven't really formed an idea on that one.
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Seems like the lower levels are given less priority when it comes to power. Considering the sheer size of the facility, and the fact that no matter where it is it's pretty remote, it seems like power rationing is a notable concern. No need to sink a bunch of money into powering clean-up floors and glorified storage sheds.
Owed T'Alex
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Cuts give the impression of hosts jumping back and forth between the park and the facility instantaneously.
I've been curious whether the hosts only have single day narratives, since you'd think a lot of western adventures might require multiple days to do. It doesn't seem like guests only have one day there.
This whole thing with the Man in Black just got even more intriguing.
This whole thing with the Man in Black just got even more intriguing.
Seems like it, yeah.
Massive Truman Show style place? Miles and miles out, someone might find the edge of the dome. Seems like the train is the way guests enter, while the employees have some alternative ways to emerge into the park, like hidden elevators.
More_Badass
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That's exactly what I thinking of
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Not sure if I'm thinking about it wrong, but the topography doesn't make any sense. So there's this remote seemingly windowless entrance location for guests, which you need to take a long train tunnel to reach, but it's also somehow in the middle of sprawling desert and plateaus where the Westworld train is?
And that train is literally connected to this building? That makes sense if that door is where you enter the Truman Show-style area and then the train pulls away
And that train is literally connected to this building? That makes sense if that door is where you enter the Truman Show-style area and then the train pulls away
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Ford entering the park tells us that at least part of the facility is underneath the landscape. That elevator was in some big hangar area and exited into the desert.
Which also explains how management is able to reach the town and hosts so quickly.
Which also kind of adds validity to this being some massive artificial environment if the facility extends all underneath the landscape.
Which also explains how management is able to reach the town and hosts so quickly.
Which also kind of adds validity to this being some massive artificial environment if the facility extends all underneath the landscape.
Oh, you were asking about the tram station. I'm guessing that connects to the port (space, sea?) and there's some moderate distance between the port and the Westworld welcome center. That seems easier to rationalize if the facility is built into a natural environment like the ocean floor or another planet's surface more than the space station theory. Then there might be geological or topographical reasons for the distance between the port and the facility.
But yeah, as for the immediate park entrance, I'm feeling like it's a Truman Show type scenario. Whether that train departs from a true edge or it's already located a little further into what I'm imagining to be a miles-wide dome, that's hard to say. Given the technology at hand, I feel like basic illusions of endless skies and landscapes would be easily accomplished. We did the the one guest saying he's never reached the edge. I would guess the narratives aren't built to take people close to the edge anyway.
I thought that was more a moment to show he didn't reset between cycles. She restarted her cycle of getting up, going to paint. She does her first cycle when she gets raped and James gets killed. Her second cycle she does the same but James doesn't help her, men in black does. Here she found the photo. Third cycle she gets up to do the same again but dad is stuck.
Yeah I think dad was supposed to reset but didn't go inside because he was too busy having an existential crisis. I don't get the period of the cycle though. Is it daily? Seems not, you'd figure some guests would want to spend the night with a host? I didn't follow the business with the bandit gang. The one script dude said he managed to make them come a week early, but I couldn't tell if that meant he accelerated a monthly(?) reset cycle or if he moved a special once-a-month(?) event to today?
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Oh, Episode 2 is up early? And here I was worried I'd have to dodge spoilers until after the debate.
darkwing-buck
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Episode in a nut shell,
. Great stuff. So much to take in.
NEW DLC BY THE CREATOR HIMSELF
Watched ep 2. I still basically don't care about any of the questions the show is asking but it still has excellent production values and a strong cast, so I'm not bailing yet. I suppose I shouldn't give a show credit just for having a big budget but here we are. A well-executed show that reaches for the stars and misses is more worth my time than a poorly-executed show that catches the moon to me.
The Man in Black is still in a totally different show that is way cooler than the main show that's happening.
It's totally bonkers how this show proposes a world whose inhabitants are just completely ignorant of video games.
And these Canon Western Art References are immediately stale. Who all did we hit this time? Bosch at least got name-checked. Why is the future so dependent on super old literature? Why is this show so interested in referencing works more worth your time than itself?
The Man in Black is still in a totally different show that is way cooler than the main show that's happening.
It's totally bonkers how this show proposes a world whose inhabitants are just completely ignorant of video games.
And these Canon Western Art References are immediately stale. Who all did we hit this time? Bosch at least got name-checked. Why is the future so dependent on super old literature? Why is this show so interested in referencing works more worth your time than itself?
wesleyshark
Banned
Woah episode 2 is out early?? Good deal, HBO. Might not get to watch it until Sunday anyway but still cool
Yeah, I'm thinking the whole park is artificial. That would reinforce what the Man in Black said, that all of the details in Westworld are deliberate. There could even be separate deserts on different levels of the structure, like older versions. That could explain why sub-level 83 from the first episode looked like it used to be a welcome lobby.
In the "subway" ride scene, you could see little specks flying by outside the window. Stars? Probably not, but it was certainly dark out there. I'm betting on an underground high-speed train, possibly very long distance (under the ocean?).
I like what you said about a "robot horror movie". I would take it one step further and call it a horror movie FOR robots.
And that gun that Dolores dug up, that's totally a "real" gun that can kill humans. Who told her where it was, though? Ford or Lowe?
In the "subway" ride scene, you could see little specks flying by outside the window. Stars? Probably not, but it was certainly dark out there. I'm betting on an underground high-speed train, possibly very long distance (under the ocean?).
I like what you said about a "robot horror movie". I would take it one step further and call it a horror movie FOR robots.
And that gun that Dolores dug up, that's totally a "real" gun that can kill humans. Who told her where it was, though? Ford or Lowe?
afternoon delight
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I think I read too much GAF... Found the first episode to be pretty weak. I'm sure you're all praising its setup and not the actual content, correct? Because the dialog and half the characters are yeeeesh, I can't believe they spent so long in production and this is the final result.
You all throw around brilliant, perfect, and hyped!1! way too much with some properties.
You all throw around brilliant, perfect, and hyped!1! way too much with some properties.
Cornballer
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They explained in an EW interview that the whole park is terraformed: "One thing I can definitely say is that later on well see the ways the park is terraformed. Not only are the hosts and wardrobe and dialogue are designed meticulously, but also the land is also designed for the park." Sounds like you're on the right track with your comments.
Did anyone pick up who's voice that was talking to her? My sound quality was poor and I was watching with captions on, so I didn't identify them.
I could be wrong, but didn't we only hear her side of the conversation? Which was a single word, "here."
They did establish earlier in the episode that Lowe has been having secret meetings with her, though...
They did establish earlier in the episode that Lowe has been having secret meetings with her, though...
Cornballer
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Yes, you're welcome to discuss Episode 2, as many of us are, behind spoiler tags. Once it airs on Sunday night, the tags are no longer necessary.
More_Badass
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You can discuss it with spoiler tags. After the regular broadcast on Sunday, discussion of EP2 can be untagged
More_Badass
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Well this is interesting, from the Discover West World site. Saw it mentioned on Reddit
Cornballer
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- There's a bit of new info on the Delos Incorporated website that HBO put up last night
- SlashFilm discusses a few different Westworld theories (most (all?) of these have been discussed in the thread already)
Also of interest, someone posted this on Reddit a month ago:
- SlashFilm discusses a few different Westworld theories (most (all?) of these have been discussed in the thread already)
Also of interest, someone posted this on Reddit a month ago:
...and Jonathan Nolan replied with "Boy have we got a show for you!" down the page a bit.
I listened again now. It sounds like a modulated version of Lowe at the very beginning of the episode.