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Westworld - Live in Your World, Play in Ours - Sundays on HBO
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newtypepilot
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I don't think Westworld is located in some space station or on the moon, because then you'll have to consider gravity. I think they've built a dome inside a vast underground salt mine (think Portal). The dome is located underground so it cannot be affected by outside weather and controlling people entering/exiting the park would be easier from a security standpoint.
Mr. Pointy
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Would you let someone pay $40k a day for a week to play cowboy in
your butt
I personally think Westworld is located
in Utah. Like, Delos bought half of Utah. Westworld is treated like doing a tour of duty on another planet because no one wants to live in Utah.
Westworld is a space station orbiting Earth. The gravity problem has already been solved in the prequel - Interstellar. In the third season, the androids will hijack ship to head towards the new colony being established at the end of Interstellar, so they can beat humanity at colonizing a new Earth.
Mr. Pointy
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- In season 4, the androids form The Principality of Zeon. After an internal coup, they militarise and create large pilotable robots called Mobile Suits.
- Season 5 is the One Year War.
- Season 5 is the One Year War.
Mr. Pointy
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The final season will be Peter Abernathy's Counterattack.
Mr. Pointy
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Nah. He'd technically be Zeon. He can be Garma Zabi.
RoninChaos
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That's assuming Bernard is not a host and that video is actually faked/stages and not a live communication.
dead souls
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When was the last time HBO made a drama you liked? Serious question!
For a miniseries I'd say The Night of, while flawed, was pretty great. For a multi season series you'd have to go back to Treme.
I don't even really like this show and I wouldn't wish that upon my fellow HBO subscribers.
I haven't. What's there to laugh about? I'm not even criticising the show - I don't think his arc is supposed to be funny in any way.
Ah yeah I guess this kind of kills the Bernard host theory, but maybe not. She might just be an actress or an AI Bernard is talking to.
Cornballer
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- KPCC "The Frame": Why Thandie Newton finds personal empowerment in HBO's 'Westworld' (~15 min audio interview)
- Telegraph: How to visit the real Westworld
- Telegraph: How to visit the real Westworld
Forgive my ignorance, but could weight have any impact on gravity? Like if all the clothes they are wearing are like 1000lbs?
Based on a bit of reading, yes it seems like you could wear heavy clothing to offset gravity differences. The people working there are likely on "tours" to make sure they don't have prolonged health effects from the reduced gravity.
The custom wardrobes make some sense then too, but then if you're naked you would feel the difference and float around a bit. Maybe They inject the guests with some kind of heavy substance into their bloodstream, that would dissipate based on dosage for your intended length of stay.
I love the show and don't understand why people who hate it keep coming into this thread. Discussion is welcome of course, but if you're just going to moan and say how much you don't like it, then make your one post and move on.
I've had the intro music stuck in my head for two days now. Can't wait for the next episode! My friend thinks time-travel plays into it somehow but I don't see it. That feels like a wild guess.
I've had the intro music stuck in my head for two days now. Can't wait for the next episode! My friend thinks time-travel plays into it somehow but I don't see it. That feels like a wild guess.
Chiaroscuro
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The place Westworld is located should be very restrict to enter. Imagine that the only living things outside the visitors are the flies. How they keep other life forms from entering the park? Snakes, for instance. A guest would think it is safe to interact with any animal, including snakes, if they think it is a controlled envirounment (think Disney parks). So they could get hurt if real animals are inside the park. If it is located in a desert, how they keep life outside? Must be a dome or another thing.
Yeah I actually thought it was weird to have fake horses and animals. Like wouldn't it be easier to have real horses and animals in the park?
Guests are signing a waiver so I would think the existence of animals is ok. It would also make going out of the town would be even more dangerous if there were real snakes, mountain lions, deer, etc. And would be a destination for hunters. Everyone should just have to take some anti-venom with them if they are going out into the wild.
I guess this may make it unnappealing for some people and introduce real ammunition for hunting, so yeah probably not a good idea.
The horses though I feel like should just be real horses. Even if they are somewhere very remote I would think real horses would be much cheaper than fake ones.
Another thought - do we actually know that the flies are even real? I vaguely remember some dialog about the flies being around but don't know if it excluded the possibility that the flies are fake. Like why the hell are there even flies? I could see a lot of people saying fuck that I'm not even going there's a shit ton of flies. And if there are real flies, you can probably assume there are other bugs around too, as if fly larvae got in I don't see how other kinds of bugs wouldn't get in.
MrCompletely
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the show takes place in a nondescript timeline. They've had pretty impressive android technology for at least 30 years, so this could be a very distant future. For all we know, these animals can be very endangered or even extinct.
Jeez. You're a real trooper for even bothering with HBO shows anymore lol.
Well, if the synth technology is this advanced I would also think cloning is pretty advanced, unless it was outlawed by politics. But I don't really see why you would outlaw cloning and allow this, as it's nearly the same thing.
So, the real question is, why not clones? But given everything is made with what seems to be biological materials, and it's just the brain/programming that isn't organic, they sort of are cloning outside of the brain.
Do we know if the hosts brains are organic or is it circuitry?
If they are organic brains then I don't see how they could possibly think they could control everything through programming, as we're finding out, they aren't able to.
More_Badass
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Yes, the comment in the first episode from the guy saying he took his family here to go fishing makes me think that the normal world is a fucked-up industrial nightmare, and this "natural" wilderness where you can enjoy the outdoors and whatnot is a luxury. What else would make it worth paying so much to come to a park like this to do something as seemingly mundane as fishing
If they had real animals they would need to take care of them with either humans or dedicated robots. Feeding, cleaning, disposing of corpses. They would need to train the horses. Animal husbandry is not easy.
It simplifies things to make them robots. But why don't they have talking horses?
The end is Dolores and Teddy falling into a black hole and experiencing true love for the first time
Clones are real people. How does inheritance work, debts, who can clone, what are the ethical rules behind it,... These are just robots, mindless ones programmed to react certain ways. They are as much alive as Siri. That is the type of reasoning you will see in our world.
Extra Sauce
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Not that I know any other but I like "Decoding Westworld" by Joanna Robinson and David Chen.
Hmm, that one seems decent. I like ones where they discuss both the good and bad. I still remember one Heroes podcast back in the day where they were in total denial about the show falling off a cliff, pissed me off.
Haunted Tank
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PETA threw a fit and they decided to use robot animals. Obviously!
I listened to that and thought it was very good. Both are professional TV reviewers and apparently do several other podcasts on different tv shows.
On the topic of outside media is there a good character guide out there that is listing the roles of each host?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
We really don't know that much - although we learned quite a bit about some of the programming philosophy with Teddy - his role is either to get killed by the Guests if they want to be villains or lead the guests towards interacting with Dolores (also by getting killed).
It seems mostly like its organized into questlines in which the "NPCs" improvise their reactions according to their programming.
I rather wonder what happens when a Guest goes full Grand Theft Auto and tries to go for 5-star wanted rating and just blows away everyone in sight. You would think it would ruin the game for all the other players.
Chiaroscuro
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My guess is: for the safety of the guests. How many guests in that future would know how to ride a real horse (or even have seen a real horse in their lives) no matter how docile it could be? The park management wants to have control about everything, every experience, and make it safe for the guests. Think DisneyWorld in a bigger scale. Westworld is sort a Pirates of the Caribbean ride with all those bots in a more technologic future.
Cornballer
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- Logline and Promo photos for next week's episode from HBO (please spoiler tag any discussion)
- Slashfilm: Westworld Theories: Who Is Arnold? Where Does The Maze Lead? And How Is Orion Connected?
- Slashfilm: Westworld Theories: Who Is Arnold? Where Does The Maze Lead? And How Is Orion Connected?
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Although I'm still not on board with the William=MiB theory, there still are a lot of hints (red herrings?) related to flashbacks and that sort of stuff.
I'm going to assume the voices the hosts hear (that aren't clearly Bernard or someone else) is related to what Ford said in episode 3 about hearing the voice of god as a bootstrap to unlocking true consciousness. This would be examples like "kill him" when Dolores shoots that bandit in the shed.
I'm going to assume that it might be Arnold's voice, or something related to Arnold. The whole mystery about what happened to Arnold is probably heavily connected to the mystery about the critical failure in the park that happened 30 years ago.
In the beginning of episode 2, Dolores hears that voice again, and it says "Do you remember", at which point it cuts immediately to William's entrance into the Westworld facilities. The discussion about the logos also hints that this could be in the past and part of a memory.
I'm going to assume the voices the hosts hear (that aren't clearly Bernard or someone else) is related to what Ford said in episode 3 about hearing the voice of god as a bootstrap to unlocking true consciousness. This would be examples like "kill him" when Dolores shoots that bandit in the shed.
I'm going to assume that it might be Arnold's voice, or something related to Arnold. The whole mystery about what happened to Arnold is probably heavily connected to the mystery about the critical failure in the park that happened 30 years ago.
In the beginning of episode 2, Dolores hears that voice again, and it says "Do you remember", at which point it cuts immediately to William's entrance into the Westworld facilities. The discussion about the logos also hints that this could be in the past and part of a memory.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
It is, and remember, that Bernard actually said the word "lunatic" in his discussion with Ford about hearing voices. Probably not a coincidence.
When are we going to hear about a renewal for a 2nd season? It seems like it's going to happen based on the ratings and general consensus of people watching the show.
GofT was renewed for a 2nd season after its first episode.
http://www.cinemablend.com/television/HBO-Has-Already-Renewed-Game-Thrones-Second-Season-31413.html
GofT was renewed for a 2nd season after its first episode.
http://www.cinemablend.com/television/HBO-Has-Already-Renewed-Game-Thrones-Second-Season-31413.html
Jack Scofield
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I wonder if the hosts are forced to do whatever the guests want. It felt like that in the first episode when those guests had Teddy take them to a whorehouse. I'm just wondering if you could tell a host to do something crazy and they're "forced" to do it.
For example, could a host prostitute turn down a guest if they wanted?
For example, could a host prostitute turn down a guest if they wanted?
That was pretty much my thought lol. People come to Westworld to live out their fantasies without any consequences. Having them potentially murdering real animals could kind of ruin that for some people.
Also having to constantly replace real animals that get killed is probably more expensive than building them once and repairing.
Maybe they're just waiting a bit longer this time after backtracking on the Vinyl renewal.
Reptars Revenge
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Westworld is in some homeless guy's body.
