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I still frequently forget that HHH/Jericho was a match, hell as far as WWE revisionist history goes Rock/Hogan was the main event that went on last.
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I still frequently forget that HHH/Jericho was a match, hell as far as WWE revisionist history goes Rock/Hogan was the main event that went on last.
aGuyInaBearSuit
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I sincerely hope that's only a rumor because face Triple H against a young talent in the WM main event in 2016 physically hurts me.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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HHH lost the belt the next PPV too. Maybe the least impactful WM main event of all time.
The Elite
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There is no way they could have made it work with face Triple H.
Trips would screw Seth and take the title from him and Seth would go on the chase as a face. Maybe even throw a short SHIELD reunion in there. I'm not sure I would want that now but nine months from now when Seth returns I could see it working.
Can't stand this face he makes all the time
"huntr pls"
spindashing
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Can't stand this face he makes all the time
He'd benefit from the crowd turning on him New Day style but I think he's too far in for something like that. Cliche as it sounds, I'm sure he'd kill it as a heel.
His spear is still cool. I may not like the guy other than that, but I like his trademark moves.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I'm not sure they knew that the match was going to be as hot as it was though?
A heel Roman run is absolutely what he needs, which means it wont happen
Ninja Scooter
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He needs a better move. The Superman punch/Spear combo are not good. Get rid of one. The Superman punch would work well as an "out of nowhere" type move, as the whole pound the ground/cock my wrist shit is so lame it just kills the impact, but the spear is already a sort of "out of nowhere" type move. Give him something else.
You say that, but when he Superman punches Dean Ambrose's Mum and does a 'I'm Superman' pose as Ambrose cries and cradles his unconcious mother... that shit'll sell Mania 32.
i've been team turn Roman heel for a while, but I just thought of something. he spends like 90% of his matches taking a nap on the outside, i don't know if he has the ability to carry a match as a heel, since the heel is usually dictating what goes on in the ring for a good majority of the match.
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WTF am I reading? This is the markiest mark shit since Wahlberg.
spindashing
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I like the Superman Punch but I do agree it would be so much cooler as an #OutOfNowhere move. His apron dropkick's pretty sweet too, I forgot to give that props.
I might be talking out of my ass, but didn't he play a heel in NXT/FCW? He's young so he does have time to improve in the ring; I want to like the guy, he's just so limited and he's too awkward on the mic for me to get behind him.
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Stro? Is that you?
Ziggler is a great heel because God-DAMN is he unlikeable. Dude is pre-retirement Shawn, minus the talent. He needs to leave, find religion, bang a Nitro girl, then come back and have the power of God on his side so that his douchebag nature becomes endearing.
UberTag
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My issue with Brock/Rock is... it's been done before (over 13 years ago). Brock won then and there's absolutely no reason he shouldn't win again now that Dwayne's doing movies full-time. I can't get invested at all in that program. Maybe if The Rock wasn't a pedestrian 5-5 lifetime at Mania.
If you've got a treasured commodity with credibility and limited dates like Lesnar, use him to build someone you're hoping to build your company around. Giving him and Dwayne a match is just a waste of both their time. And ours.
I really only want to see The Rock back to face off against a heel Roman Reigns.
And I'm not sure Ambrose/Reigns is big enough for a Mania match.
A Shield triple threat is big enough.
But if Rollins is out of the equation, I'd rather see the Ambrose-Reigns feud done sooner rather than later.
Ambrose's mother? That shit is weak. Nobody cares about anonymous wrestling parents getting maimed.
Have Reigns superman punch Renee.
If Roman can't carry a match at this point and needs his precious naptime, perhaps the WWE shouldn't be so bound and determined to pin their hopes and dreams on this man.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Why would Dwayne wrestle Brock? I'm unaware of any amount of money that would could convince him to do such a thing.
Maybe if Brock is thrown into the ringpost and does a blatant blade-job?
Liquidsnake
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Lol.
It's weird because usually Brock just lets someone throw him full on into the post and assumes that he'll bleed from the impact. At HIAC it was 'I'm going to kneel here for a second, rub my hand across my head, and no-one will know I bladed.' It really needed Brock to yell 'FUCK' while Heyman is all 'BAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRROCK' for authenticity.
stro defending Ziggles is something I wanna see
Viewership is down yet again:
http://www.prowrestling.net/article...pionship-tournament-44750#sRi2d7elLTW2yehv.99
Ninja Scooter
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Undertaker wouldn't have made much difference. Undertaker being the draw is the fucking problem.
They'll go through the entire roster before they start blaming themselves.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
...I don't think there were any teases about the Undertaker. It was mostly just a tease that Bray would come out and deliver another nonsense promo. It wasn't entirely clear that was going to be the "main event" either so I can see people tuning out.
Down where?
funkystudent
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Sure. Seems like it.
But when bad stuff happens and they need to try harder that just means Vince will be more hands on then he normally is with the booking and that just means more bullshit no one wants.
So the more they try and fix it the more broken its going to be.
Sectorseven
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Was Raw live last night, from England?
So that was going on at like 1 am?
So that was going on at like 1 am?
No recorded, so like 10pm finish.
They can't be too worried about the ratings because they clearly didn't even try with that tournament bracket.
I was excited about the tournament. As soon as I saw a picture of the bracket, the bit of interest I had instantly disappeared.
For almost every guy in it, there's no way in hell they would have a chance in winning. Half of them have no business being in a tournament for even the IC title, much less world title.
I was excited about the tournament. As soon as I saw a picture of the bracket, the bit of interest I had instantly disappeared.
For almost every guy in it, there's no way in hell they would have a chance in winning. Half of them have no business being in a tournament for even the IC title, much less world title.
The lack of star power and three hour length of Raw took its toll last night as, even with a lower-rated NFL game than in recent weeks, Raw set another modern audience record low mark last night.
Raw was down from last week's 3.24 million viewers to 3.16 million this week, with the lowest viewed hour (hour three) in modern non-holiday history, even on a night built around the first round of the WWE title tournament. When the brackets for the tournament didn't list outside stars, and the most pushed star in the tournament, Roman Reigns, had already wrestled in the first hour, interest fell greatly.
The three hours were:
8 p.m. 3.48 million viewers
9 p.m. 3.18 million viewers
10 p.m. 2.86 million viewers
Yikes. I dont understand why the biggest star in the tournament (Roman) was not saved for the main event spot? They basically gave the fans what little stardom there was at the start of the show and left the rest of the show hanging.
The graphic also showed no Cena, Taker or Lesnar, obviously hardcore fans know they wont partake in the tournament. But casual fans might wonder why none of them are in it.
Raw was down from last week's 3.24 million viewers to 3.16 million this week, with the lowest viewed hour (hour three) in modern non-holiday history, even on a night built around the first round of the WWE title tournament. When the brackets for the tournament didn't list outside stars, and the most pushed star in the tournament, Roman Reigns, had already wrestled in the first hour, interest fell greatly.
The three hours were:
8 p.m. 3.48 million viewers
9 p.m. 3.18 million viewers
10 p.m. 2.86 million viewers
Yikes. I dont understand why the biggest star in the tournament (Roman) was not saved for the main event spot? They basically gave the fans what little stardom there was at the start of the show and left the rest of the show hanging.
The graphic also showed no Cena, Taker or Lesnar, obviously hardcore fans know they wont partake in the tournament. But casual fans might wonder why none of them are in it.
They could have (should have) made some changes last night, yet they just cobble together the bottom of the barrel of the midcard geeks to fill 16 spots in a tournament that is as predictable as it is dull. Make some changes to the stale layout of the graphics and the look of the show, update the format so it's not the same old boring 20 minute promo to open the show, anything.
People used to say "I'm done watching!!" and then be back the next monday, but it really seems like there is a big chunk of fans that has just given up and moved on.
People used to say "I'm done watching!!" and then be back the next monday, but it really seems like there is a big chunk of fans that has just given up and moved on.
Raw is my entertainment of last resort, i ended up going to Rocket League over it after watching for a bit. I thought the Wyatt kane/taker tribute stuff was just about wasting time, i didn't catch the ending with them coming down but i after knowing it happened i still don't care. That tournament bracket was an interest-killer.
Just the intro with HHH coming down to tell Roman how amazing in every regard he is outside of his one flaw, not selling out, put me off the rest of the show.
Just the intro with HHH coming down to tell Roman how amazing in every regard he is outside of his one flaw, not selling out, put me off the rest of the show.
Mr. Luchador
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UK Raws are always shit, maybe people finally realised and decided to do something better with their time?
All they have is the mid card. There is nothing but Cena at the top, then whoever is the WWE champ at the time, then the part timers and after that everyone else.
There is no upper level talent besides John Cena on the permanent roster, by their own design.
As for people not watching. It is true, this happened to me. Even when all of WrassleGAF says a Raw is awesome I find myself not caring enough to check it out. Best I have done is check some backstage interviews on YT On Tuesday.
I just watch old 1997 Nitro's and 2002 Smackdown's instead of Raw nowadays, how sad is that?
For WWE, not me.
funkystudent
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I always liked UK RAW's.
Its normally a pretty rowdy crowd that can come up with some pretty fun chants.
Its normally a pretty rowdy crowd that can come up with some pretty fun chants.
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