Xbox Game Pass has more than 10 million subscribers.

Neofire said:
Selling a subscription at basically dollars for hundreds of games, there is no comparison.

On top of not having ownership of the games and being leeched a subscription fee I still don't see how companies can make enough profit unless Microsoft is paying them an very very generous incentive.
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It works like this MS use their big name exclusives as front runners for the service...You get millions of Subs onto GP this gives incentive for example Kingdom Hearts 3 to come into GP because SQ Enix aren't silly they know KH has never launched on a Xbox console and it just being in the store isnt enough for people who have been starved of the series to buy so now it's on GP those people who want to see what Kingdom Hearts is about get to and they build a bigger audience/following if it were to just sit in the Xbox Store. Same for Yakuza. The more games added especially Big names like Halo Infinite and Fable and Gears 5 grows the service even more.

I believe these devs see it more as marathon than a race Sea of Thieves is in the top 20 most played Xbox One games the more Gamepass grows the more Populated Sea of Thieves gets and the more people willing to spend on in game content.
 
CatLady said:
That's exactly what I was thinking. 3 months is perfect to give them great games to play without any additional investment and after 3 months most people are going to be more than willing to stay on as a paying member.
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Also gives the service time to have at least one new heavy hitter or AAA first party game for new comers.
 
I love gamepass it has saved me so much money.

This weekend alone I get to play streets of rage 4 and gears tactics two games I am super excited to throw down on. I am sure PS Now would be a good value as well but I have not dabbled in that service.
 
CuteFaceJay said:
You had that many points? Do you even work a job?
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Yes i work and it literally take my 5 minutes a day to get the points lol it is not a thing where you have to grind all day long it just takes 5 minutes of your time a day it add up overtime i get over 100 dollar worth of points ever year from it and i started in 2017 so now i have over 300 dollar in points total from it i spend 150 plus so i still have money left over since i wait for when they have deals to cash in my points here just take a look at this video it is super easy.


 
Clarissa said:
Wait, so it's $1 for 3 whole years or $1 per month for 3 years??
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It was one dollar to convert the whole 3 years not one dollar per month. Obviously, you had to purchase XBLG but considering that Gamepass ultimate in my region is like $16.99 a month, it was way cheaper to just stack XBLG and pay one dollar.


Honestly, there is no way Gamepass is profitable. Netflix isn't profitable and it's the biggest subscription service in the world. I applaud Microsoft for subsidizing the service and I'll continue to enjoy my time with it. It's a great service.
 
CaptainClaw said:
I believe these devs see it more as marathon than a race Sea of Thieves is in the top 20 most played Xbox One games the more Gamepass grows the more Populated Sea of Thieves gets and the more people willing to spend on in game content.
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And those same people are the first ones to cry about micro transactions.
 
Neofire said:
Yeah it's FUD because you don't agree with it
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Not really, people are spouting off opinion as fact because a minority of people are getting gamepass for $1 or free. But the simple matter of the fact is, Microsoft has sustained 10 Million subscribers. Surely, many of these users are not privy to that deal being repeatable and these forums we frequent are a vocal minority, the majority of those subscriptions are most likely legit.
 
Sycomunkee said:
Not really, people are spouting off opinion as fact because a minority of people are getting gamepass for $1 or free. But the simple matter of the fact is, Microsoft has sustained 10 Million subscribers. Surely, many of these users are not privy to that deal being repeatable and these forums we frequent are a vocal minority, the majority of those subscriptions are most likely legit.
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MS wouldn't be bragging with actual numbers (which they haven't released in a long time) if most of the people were gaming the system.
 
Someone in here mentioned that PS Now generates more profit than Game Pass despite having only one tenth the number of subscribers. Is that due to a higher subscription fee? Also, do you think that Sony would reduce their subscription fee if Game Pass began increasing its marketshare?
 
Neofire said:
And those same people are the first ones to cry about micro transactions.
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Doubtful, people that pay for in game content/MT are custom to paying for these things as in this isn't there first game doing so. And these MT are cosmetics and you can still gain these cosmetics in other ways. Someone may look at it as unfair but in reality that isn't affecting their gameplay experience it doesn't give an edge in gameplay.
 
I have played loads of games I would never of played without gamepass. I am somebody who is paying full price for gamepass ultimate for both xbox and pc and its the best value ever.

this is a winner for sure for gamers. I have no idea why so many are against it
 
Jtibh said:
Which makes owning an xbox irrelevant if you have a propper pc .

Makes me questiin why the need for such a power monster when microsoft mostly makes money on service and software and not hardware
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Cost.

The Series X will be orders of magnitude cheaper than getting a PC equivalent that matches that kind of power. Most people don't want to deal with the higher comparable price of an equivalent PC and have to deal with the headaches inherent to PC gaming (manually optimizing etc...). Console is plug and play.

And due to licensing agreements, most Gamepass games for the xbox are NOT on Gamepass for PC.
 
CaptainClaw said:
It works like this MS use their big name exclusives as front runners for the service...You get millions of Subs onto GP this gives incentive for example Kingdom Hearts 3 to come into GP because SQ Enix aren't silly they know KH has never launched on a Xbox console and it just being in the store isnt enough for people who have been starved of the series to buy so now it's on GP those people who want to see what Kingdom Hearts is about get to and they build a bigger audience/following if it were to just sit in the Xbox Store. Same for Yakuza. The more games added especially Big names like Halo Infinite and Fable and Gears 5 grows the service even more.

I believe these devs see it more as marathon than a race Sea of Thieves is in the top 20 most played Xbox One games the more Gamepass grows the more Populated Sea of Thieves gets and the more people willing to spend on in game content.
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But it doesn't work like this at all man in the real world! That's what the goal for this is supposed to be. You have to take into account costs all around and then figure out how many subs been sold for actual price of entry and deals like they were doing for $1!

like I said before, the service is great for gamers, devs, and publishers, but not the service provider!

shit they should be charging $50 a month for this service and I wouldn't bat an eye for that especially for what you're getting from it!
 
ManaByte said:
MS wouldn't be bragging with actual numbers (which they haven't released in a long time) if most of the people were gaming the system.
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They aren't bragging, they are providing progress to shareholders who demand answers on investments. Xbox content and services "only" went up 2% this quarter even though people spent a lot more time at home.
 
Congratulations to Microsoft and the Xbox brand. Game Pass is fucking awesome. Can't wait for Series X. Will already have a multi-game backlog including SOR 4, Ori 2, Minecraft Dungeons, Wasteland 3 and of course next gen titles Halo Infinite and Gears Tactics. Seriously, November can't get here fast enough!!!
 
EricKillMongerz said:
Lets leave the money numbers for Microsoft a trillion dollar tech giant company to worry about ok you and me as gamers we can just enjoy the games and as long as MS is making profit they will keep it going no need to worried about games sales when they MS themself are putting it on Gamepass day 1 so for us the consumer with Gamepass that is great and we can just enjoy it.
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That's crazy you say that when during the PS3 era everyone at that time were being financial analysts in here with all the doom and gloom for Sony and it's "free" online service and entry point of $599!

Hell your reply of MS being a "trillion" dollar company says it all, that has nothing to do with this service at all!

there's no real focus with this brand at all and it's all over the place! I left the ecosystem as MS is quick to kill off their previous platforms in favor of another a little too quickly in order to move forward and win some "console war"!

I just feel if it's to good to be true it's most likely the case. And when MS talks numbers, you have to give them the side eye is all I'm saying! It's a great deal but the total package doesn't add up. But I'm done replying I made my statement and I don't won't to further detail this topic more than I already have. My apologies
 
Smoke6 said:
like I said before, the service is great for gamers, devs, and publishers, but not the service provider!
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Three said:
Isn't it? I thought PS Now is available across most of Europe.
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Only western europe. No south america australia africa new zeland middle eaat, south east asia etc.
19 countries in total

Game pass is available in all od these places from poland russia to taiwan south korea etc.
 
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Smoke6 said:
But it doesn't work like this at all man in the real world! That's what the goal for this is supposed to be. You have to take into account costs all around and then figure out how many subs been sold for actual price of entry and deals like they were doing for $1!

like I said before, the service is great for gamers, devs, and publishers, but not the service provider!

shit they should be charging $50 a month for this service and I wouldn't bat an eye for that especially for what you're getting from it!
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Give it a rest.
 
FranXico said:
This kind of subscription services has to be subsidized upfront in order to succeed. You have to burn a lot of money before turning a profit from it.
Very few companies can afford to do that.

Keep in mind, once habit settles in, people will even keep paying every month even though they no longer actually play games. Similar to what happens with Netflix.
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Yeah people can not think cant they? Paying for a service they dont use. Thats just burning money. That just stupid.
 
BluRayHiDef said:
Someone in here mentioned that PS Now generates more profit than Game Pass despite having only one tenth the number of subscribers. Is that due to a higher subscription fee? Also, do you think that Sony would reduce their subscription fee if Game Pass began increasing its marketshare?
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No they are the same price currently per month. If there is any validity to that claim, it would be because Sony doesn't do all the deals Microsoft does. I mean got to newegg, any graphics card you buy now comes with 3-6 months free of gamepass. On top of all the deals for cheap months on websites, the 1$ conversion you can do if you have live.

I mean there's constant deals. You don't see that from Sony on PS NOW. Only thing i've seen is the 7 day trial they do.
 
Very well deserved. Started strong and still continuing strong. Props to them

Whats also nice about the XGP is whenever a game is added to the library, its automatically discounted in the store.
 
From a backward compatibility point of view it doesn't have anything outstanding that you could't just download outright..
 
The best keeps on getting better. And then the new Halo will be on this with the new console. They gonna give out them 1 month GamePass cards so when you buy the new Xbox, you already have over 200 games.

What an incredible start for a new generation of console to have.

Also color me shocked that people are all... b-b-b-b-but ps now!
 
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Smoke6 said:
But it doesn't work like this at all man in the real world! That's what the goal for this is supposed to be. You have to take into account costs all around and then figure out how many subs been sold for actual price of entry and deals like they were doing for $1!

like I said before, the service is great for gamers, devs, and publishers, but not the service provider!

shit they should be charging $50 a month for this service and I wouldn't bat an eye for that especially for what you're getting from it!
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Lool even if 9 Million of those subs are $1 they aren't $1 for ever lol when that month is up for whoever's on $1, the next month. you are paying $10.

Its Ironic your here telling me "that's not how it works in the real world" and you're the same one thinking all these subs are $1 and are staying at $1 every month lmao and no offense but you failed to do basic maths on games revenue/sales in previous posts.
 
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Three said:
No shit my country just left the union. That's why in my previous post I said "most of Europe". I ain't fucking Aaron Greenberg.
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There are 44 countries in Europe and PSNow is available in 16 of them, if I counted correctly.
 
StreetsofBeige said:
You missed it.

He self imploded with account suicide doing a Last of Us 2 leak with a troll thread tricking people it was "Druckmann responds to Last of Us Leak". Then boom. You click the thread and he posted leaks. The thread is already deleted, but he moaned about biased threads, astroturfing and the same people defending MS.
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It's comforting to know he went out doing what he loved most. :pie_roffles:"pie_tears_joy::pie_roffles:
 
PharaoTutAnchAmun said:
Yeah people can not think cant they? Paying for a service they dont use. Thats just burning money. That just stupid.
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I was doing it for years some of these services are so cheap who really notices at most £10 going out of there bank? I go months without watching Netflix but still pay for it, same with amazon, and you never know when you need next day delivery so cancelling it would be pain. the only reason my gamer pass sub ended was because i needed a new card, but for months i was paying for it even though i was also paying for the PC version and not using either. Playing games and watching TV isn't something you plan so never know what service you going to be using, so really shocked if theirs not millions of people doing this with a variety of services.
 
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phil_t98 said:
I have played loads of games I would never of played without gamepass. I am somebody who is paying full price for gamepass ultimate for both xbox and pc and its the best value ever.

this is a winner for sure for gamers. I have no idea why so many are against it
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Because it encourages incentives for microtransactions and lootboxes
 
FeiRR said:
There are 44 countries in Europe and PSNow is available in 16 of them, if I counted correctly.
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Cool, if you count the small independents like Monaco and Holy See as countries I guess but even the pope gets access to PSNow. They just aren't listed. Others can also easily get access, It isn't geoblocked as far as I know. Gamepass supports what, 18 countries as well?

Not sure why all that's important. Somebody said PSNow 'isn't available in Europe' and I said 'it is available in Europe'. I know it's not a country and I know it's not all of Europe. I hope it officially comes to yours.
 
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Three said:
Cool, if you count the small independents like Monaco and Holy See as countries I guess but even the pope gets access to PSNow. They just aren't listed. Others can also easily get access, It isn't geoblocked as far as I know. Gamepass supports what, 18 countries as well?

Not sure why all that's important. Somebody said PSNow 'isn't available in Europe' and I said 'it is available in Europe'. I know it's not a country and I know it's not all of Europe. I hope it officially comes to yours.
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PS Now 19. GP 41.
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Xbox Game Pass has more than 10 million subscribers.

Which is exaclty my whole point lmao. You guys saying Microsoft are losing out on all this money when there not really. Halo 3 the best selling halo done $600m (reported 3 years after launch) no gears of war game has done more than $300-$350m total...no Forza game has done $300m total. No, I...
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oagboghi2 said:
Because it encourages incentives for microtransactions and lootboxes
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I have not bought any micro transaction or loot box. currently playing "A plague tale" and not a loot box or transaction in sight. again there are loads of games that aint on gamepads with loot box or transactions so its happening with or without gamepads
 
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