I played 50h (30h Beta and 20h final game). Payed 60, sold after a week for ~40. Can't complain. But I'm not going back.
Bungie apologizes for Taken King controversy, CE items to be sold separate
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I played 50h (30h Beta and 20h final game). Payed 60, sold after a week for ~40. Can't complain. But I'm not going back.
Recently I had considered getting into destiny after seeing some decent prices which included all content. I am so glad I avoided this game now. Seeing how current customers are being treated, I want no part of that. Fun and entertainment have taken a back seat in recent years. I am so glad a high profile game is starting to get some attention for this.
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Waylon Drums
Member
There's a genuinely good game in there. It's maddening the way they treat their customers, but there's a good game buried under all that ineptitude.
KillerSloth
Banned
YEah there is, sadly that seems to get lost in the Hate/PR gafs.
This thread wouldn't be 20 pages if it wasn't a great game.
That's what I was wondering, the $20 addon is hilariously overpriced but optional and it addressed what people were asking for.
Deej clearly just said that to try and appease the pitchforked mob that had formed
Sorry, but I stand by everything I wrote.
Bungie and Activision have constantly used shady practise, they've constantly tried their luck to see how far they could push their customers, to see how much they can squeeze from them.
I loved the game, I've had hundreds of hours of fun from it, but I can't support this kind of practise.
If you can't see how they're mistreating their fans then I really don't know what to say. Have fun playing.
Darkstorne
Member
I think it's because the core gameplay is SOOO good, that although the execution of it all has been terrible, a lot of us held out hope for them to create an expansion that delivered locations, story, quests, patrols, AI, etc that were just as impressive as the gunplay and finally delivered a great game. There was a lot of potential, essentially.
But after two lackluster and somewhat over-priced expansions, the announcement of a $40 expansion (or £40! What even...) which only adds one new location is just the last straw for so many of us. The potential is never being achieved. Time to call it quits and stop wasting time and money on something that could have been great, but clearly never will be.
KillerSloth
Banned
How so? I don't see destiny failing at all. The game is very popular.
I don't think this is true? There is phobos, Dreadnaught, and new areas on Existing planets is there not? MAybe wait and see what the expansion has before making assumptions?
It didn't address it. It half addressed it. A big part of the problem was nobody wanted to pay $80 just to get some additional shaders. A $20 reduction because of the removal of a $60 game and two $20 DLCs doesn't change that. This new stuff is worth $20 in the physical edition 'cause it comes with cool stuff.
Not really worth $20 in the digital where you don't get half the cool stuff that comes with the physical CE.
Breakfast at Noon
Member
Your vanilla experiemce woukd not be affected by this tat, not having a couple of shaders would not bring the game crashing down around you.
did horse armour make oblivion a shit game? No, was it a shit idea? Yes, but that does not make the game shit.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Whoa, "so many"?
I wonder if the OT will have an even split between PS4 and XBO after the exodus then. That'd be a nice change of pace.
Silver lining?
Some of us have been giving Bungie the benefit of the doubt since way before day 1.
It's wearing thin at this point.
KillerSloth
Banned
YEah but that doesn't change the fact that it's not true though, we know of phobos and dreadnaught at least (Correct me if I am wrong). I also thought new areas on existing planets are going to be opened.
Until we see the quality of those areas, I think it's much safer to err on the side of caution.
KillerSloth
Banned
Yeah but again, saying there is one new area is false, that's all I am saying.............Whether or not it is enough we won't know until launch,
Lalalandia
Member
Only the Dreadnaught is confirmed the rest is speculation and logic leaps from Vidocs
DrROBschiz
Member
Damn
20 dollars for digital items? Thats more than I spent on the actual content expansions
No thanks Bungie. You can keep em
20 dollars for digital items? Thats more than I spent on the actual content expansions
No thanks Bungie. You can keep em
Have those areas been confirmed?
I remember a lot of fan speculation at launch, and every time new DLC has been released. Each time people rush to defend saying "we don't know yet, look at what /might/ be included".
Lalalandia
Member
This, after two rounds of 'they'll make good you'll see' my patience is shot.
But we want to go further, indeed we must. It's not enough to simply say don't buy it when too many sheep (suckers?) are condoning gouging price practices and ruining the consumer market for the majority.
We're trying to save the sheep from themselves as they eat the grass and don't realize they're trotting towards the slaughterhouse knife.
Simply voting with your wallet isn't enough currently. We demand stronger action and proactive condemnation of those paying stupid prices for DLC.
I have no idea who we are but I sure think you're stupid if you pay $20 or worse £20 for a few extras that should be like $0.99 but I guess go ahead if you must - I will point and laugh though
They've shown footage of new areas on Earth and Venus so far, in addition to Phobos and the Dreadnaught. We don't know how large any of the new areas are, though, outside of one space on Venus which was shown in a new strike.
Oppo
Member
hey Activision. here's an idea.
sell your game for a price.
sell expansions for a lesser price.
do not dick around with special editions.
do not dick around with retailer exclusives.
stop slicing and dicing your product to eek a few miserable shekels from each copy.
my $20 consultation invoice is in the mail.
sell your game for a price.
sell expansions for a lesser price.
do not dick around with special editions.
do not dick around with retailer exclusives.
stop slicing and dicing your product to eek a few miserable shekels from each copy.
my $20 consultation invoice is in the mail.
Breakfast at Noon
Member
Bought the collectors edition as i want the tat like the strange coin n shit more than th poxy "digital bonus" and to mock people using those items will be stupid as not everyone would of gone and paid $20 for them as they would of got them from buying the entire package (and might be new players if your a new player price wise it is a decent deal, just shit for current players)
I really hope it ends up being worth the money for you guys.
Full disclosure - I don't own this game. Played the beta and enjoyed it but, for some reason, my buddies and I decided not to purchase it at the end of the day.
That being said, while I understand the thought that this is priced high, I don't see it as a big deal. I don't see it as a mass market item. Instead, it is more of a collector item that has no impact on gameplay, which commands a premium price. So what? If you really want it, pony up the 20 bucks. Otherwise, move on.
If they had walled off more meaningful gameplay content at a ludicrously high (relatively) price (such as sticking with the original plan and fucking the early adopters), I could better understand the complaining. At this point, given it is just cosmetic. If you don't see the value, just move on.
With the new expansion, I'm considering jumping into this game now. Just have to decide if that even makes sense given the long term, more skill developed community that already exists in the game.
That being said, while I understand the thought that this is priced high, I don't see it as a big deal. I don't see it as a mass market item. Instead, it is more of a collector item that has no impact on gameplay, which commands a premium price. So what? If you really want it, pony up the 20 bucks. Otherwise, move on.
If they had walled off more meaningful gameplay content at a ludicrously high (relatively) price (such as sticking with the original plan and fucking the early adopters), I could better understand the complaining. At this point, given it is just cosmetic. If you don't see the value, just move on.
With the new expansion, I'm considering jumping into this game now. Just have to decide if that even makes sense given the long term, more skill developed community that already exists in the game.
This is not the cake, this is just the icing.
RoyalLaFlame
Banned
I have yet to play Destiny but what happened to Bungie? What happened to Bungie from the Halo era? wow
benicillin
Banned
Well now it's plainly obvious that no one actually gave a shit about the CE and just wanted more reasons to complain about Destiny, because my understanding of the original controversy was that you wanted the collector's edition stuff without having to re-buy the full game. Now you can do that for half off but everyone is still unhappy. It's emotes and class items and shaders, guys, if it's not worth $20 then you don't have to buy it. But the whole moving the goalpost thing reeks of "we aren't going to be happy until you just give it to us for free" is kinda silly and I'm sure Bungie offering this completely optional stuff for $20 is the best deal they could work out with Activision.
Are you really speaking for other people or just yourself?
You'll be back in September, if you really play it as much as you claim to do. The fans of the game play destiny almost everyday regardless, if it loses some 'change the world' types it's not going to stop it from being successful.
I just wish people would stop having crazy expectations for a game that is still on last gen consoles at this point. Considering we will have a patrol on a Hive ship, it's probably going to be planet size. But fuck me what do I know, your mind and 'so many others' are made up.
Hola!
It's very high-minded of you to take a stance like this when 90% of the people in here are just shitting on a game they don't own anymore/never even played.
The Destiny Community on NeoGAF is at an all time high and we've also overtaken HaloGAF for having the most OT's ever (we're at 24 and counting). Everyone is very friendly and grouping up is painless with how active everyone is. Now is a fantastic time to jump in.
Destiny may have its problems, but now more than ever the game is less grindy and a lot more fun to play. There's so much content now that unless you played 8 hours a day there's no way you'd be able to get it all done on a weekly basis. I started my third character this past weekend and it's already at level 30 (the cap is 34); that should give you an idea on how painless leveling is now.
Stop by the thread and check out what we're all about. Hope to see you there!
Doubt if bungie/activision even care at this point. After their last dlc offering, the whole $20 for emotes shit and Taken king for $40 I'm not giving them any more money. Unless Taken king has a SUBSTANTIAL amount of content, I will not be buying it. By substantial I mean more than just 1 raid some pvp maps and repeated story missions. TDB gave us a raid/pvp maps/"story missions" for $20. I'm surprised at the amount of people are ok with the $40 price tag. If the leaked slide is anything to go by (which it has been correct for the last 2 dlcs) Taken King doesn't seem like a good deal, at least to me. I'll probably pick it up once it goes on sale but I have a feeling by then I'm gonna be over Destiny and probably onto other games.
Hopefully Gears3 backwards compatibility works by then.
Hopefully Gears3 backwards compatibility works by then.
I really hope that because of this debacle Bungie stops these in game promotions. I don't think they will though. The CE sold out instantly and people were bitching about not being able to buy this stuff separately. They will probably make a bunch of money from this policy and I really wish that wasn't the case.
I wouldn't call it high minded of someone who has no first hand experience of the way Bungie has handled this from day one saying "I don't see what the problem is here".
The GAF community for this game is, and always has been, excellent. The game can be a lot of fun with friends, and some of the content offers what could easily be considered top tier co-op.
That's beside the point though, imo.
Not enough.
Edit: Great point on Reddit. If 9 cosmetic items are 20USD/€/£ then how much value/content is 40USD/€/£ TTK [expansion itself]?
This is so damn confusing. So, the $80 Taken King collectors edition comes with the core game and the first two expansions, yes? Say someone jumped in day one for $60 and the purchased the expansion pass for $35. Now they're being asked to pay an additional $20 to gain access to shaders/class items/emotes that are included with the Taken King collectors edition? So, those who have supported Bungie/Activision since the beginning are expected to pay $155 (it's $40 for the standalone expansion, no?) to access everything that one gets with the $80 package. I realize cost goes down for games over time, but this seems like a dramatic disparity for less than a year when purely considering the dollar amount.
Shameful. But since people will pay for it Bungie/Activision isn't solely to blame for these practices.
Shameful. But since people will pay for it Bungie/Activision isn't solely to blame for these practices.
benicillin
Banned
9 cosmetic items are $20 because it's CE content - that by and of itself means that it's not something everyone will pick up or want. It's priced at a premium because the people who will buy it would buy it at a premium because they really like the game or w/e. It has nothing to do with standard DLC pricing, and CE content has always been more expensive for every game in existence ever.
I don't have an issue with new gamers getting content cheaper, games depreciate in value over time and you pay for the privilege of gaining access day one.
I don't have an issue with CE content being priced at a premium in general.
What I have an issue with here is that Bungie had a chance to garner a lot of good will with this content, good will from people who have supported this game since day 1 despite being let down consistently, and, instead, they decided to sell us a few digital items for the same price as the entire content of House of Wolves.
Again, this is beside the point.
GlamFM
Banned
I disagree entirely - it´s ONLY about what you get out of it - always.