Deadpool shatters record with $47.5M opening day

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kswiston

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What if Deadpool does better than Apocalypse?

I doubt it will worldwide, since Deadpool didn't make it past China's censor committee (and Apocalypse will likely do $125-150M there), but Deadpool has a more than decent shot at beating X-Men Apocalypse domestic.

Deadpool's direct competition is Gods of Egypt and London has fallen over the next 3 weekends. Apocalypse has Through the Looking Glass opening on the same day, and then TMNT 2, The Conjuring 2, Now you See Me 2, Warcraft, The Rock+Kevin Hart, and Finding Dory in the following 3 weekends. Not all of those movies will blow up, but they will tie up a lot of screens and have varying levels of audience overlap.
 

Village

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We past that with Guardians, Watchmen, and Ant Man

Eh, Guardians and Ant-Man's situations were " we are going to push these litterally who's. We can bring new experiences in new heroes to audiences that have never experienced them, even ones super fucking far fetched" and it worked.

Deadpool, while still sort of falling into that catgory is more about " we made an R rated super hero movie, and it worked, not every reboot retelling of a nerd property needs the pg 13 rating, maybe we make different experiences, that don't that one pg13 thing" And it worked.

I Wanna see what the next R rated on screen super hero attempt is.
 

Kusagari

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Deadpool is blowing up so big as an R rated comic book movie because it's basically a comedy.

I feel like any studio that uses this as evidence to start green lighting any R comic movie will regret it.
 

Slayven

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I doubt it will worldwide, since Deadpool didn't make it past China's censor committee (and Apocalypse will likely do $125-150M there), but Deadpool has a more than decent shot at beating X-Men Apocalypse domestic.

Deadpool's direct competition is Gods of Egypt and London has fallen over the next 3 weekends. Apocalypse has Through the Looking Glass opening on the same day, and then TMNT 2, The Conjuring 2, Now you See Me 2, Warcraft, The Rock+Kevin Hart, and Finding Dory in the following 3 weekends. Not all of those movies will blow up, but they will tie up a lot of screens and have varying levels of audience overlap.

Wait there is a Now you See Me 2? And hollywood's highest grossing actor Tyrese doesn't have a movie?

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Moonkight needs to be a show.
 
Deadpool is blowing up so big as an R rated comic book movie because it's basically a comedy.

I feel like any studio that uses this as evidence to start green lighting any R comic movie will regret it.

So far this is an outlier. WB tried the R-rated comic movie with Watchmen, and it blew up in their faces.
 

HardRojo

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Damn! That's great for the team involved and the franchise. I'll watch it next week and hopefully will be able to avoid spoilers till Thursday.
 

Matt

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Still really wouldn't be worth it for Marvel to make an R-rated movie. Merchandising has value beyond the box office, and kids buy toys much more then adults do.
 
So far this is an outlier. WB tried the R-rated comic movie with Watchmen, and it blew up in their faces.

I don't know that Watchmen blew up in their faces, really. I wouldn't call it that.

The fact it turned out as decently as it did is still pretty remarkable, considering up until that point conventional wisdom was that you couldn't even really make the movie.

The rating isn't the most important takeaway here, I don't think. That's getting caught in the rhetorical trap that suggests all you need to do is make things more violent and have more cusswords in it. It's not the mere presence of that shit that causes people to be appreciative, it's the ways in which it's executed.

As with most stuff, it's the how, not the what.
 
Deadpool is blowing up so big as an R rated comic book movie because it's basically a comedy.

I feel like any studio that uses this as evidence to start green lighting any R comic movie will regret it.

Agreed

This is only working because its Deadpool and Ryan Reynolds
 

Nokterian

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Goddamn...a shame about zoolander 2 though and i mean also as a movie hearing things that made the first one just as it was a fun movie became a cult hit and the second one not so much.
 

Owari

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Hopefully the studios see this and green light more Rated R comic book movies. I think what makes all of the DC movies so awful is that they're not Rated R when they really should be.
 

kswiston

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Wait there is a Now you See Me 2? And hollywood's highest grossing actor Tyrese doesn't have a movie?

Ride Along 2 was this year's entry into the Tyrese Gibson Cinematic Universe. He doesn't want his legions of fans to get Tyrese fatigue, so you will have to wait for Fast 8 in 2017 to get more of the world's foremost entertainment superstar.

As for NYSM2, Lionsgate will greenlight sequels to anything that makes them at least $12.
 

ZoddGutts

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Keeps doing better and better, dat word of mouth. Makes me wish that Suicide Squad was Rated R instead of doing the hard PG-13 thing. WB Producer of the Superhero films said last year:
The intention of the film is definitely to be PG-13… We really want to make these films tonally consistent so that, as I said because this is a shared universe, at least our current thinking—and again, we’re not dealing in absolutes because while this is business it’s also a creative endeavor, so you want to leave yourself open to changing your mind, doing something different, being inspired, that’s the whole process of filmmaking is you have to allow for inspiration as well as having a road map for what you’re gonna do. So our plan right now is to make all these films PG-13. In some cases, you know, right there on the edge of PG-13, but still PG-13.

http://collider.com/suicide-squad-movie-rating-mpaa/
 

Barrage

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I agree with a previous poster that Deadpool being an R-Rated Comedy is a big factor.

It makes the movie essentially spoiler-proof, since the plot takes a backseat, people can only recount so many one-liners, and a lot of the biggest gags people will want to hear again in the actual movie.

i'm curious if another movie this weekend will recieve a bump from minors buying tickets in order to sneak into Deadpool. If the reports of Deadpool selling out every showing are true, that might not even be possible.
 

Slayven

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Ride Along 2 was this year's entry into the Tyrese Gibson Cinematic Universe. He doesn't want his legions of fans to get Tyrese fatigue, so you will have to wait for Fast 8 in 2017 to get more of the world's foremost entertainment superstar.

As for NYSM2, Lionsgate will greenlight sequels to anything that makes them at least $12.

Tyrese does have a tv show now......

Sounds like me and Bobby need to finish our Candyman reboot.
 
I think what makes all of the DC movies so awful is that they're not Rated R when they really should be.

I think the bigger problem is taking characters designed for, successful because of, and aimed at children and turning them into R-rated characters in R-rated stories. To a lesser extent, forcing them to exist in live-action is also a problem. You're handicapping a lot of the appeal of these characters by limiting what they can do physically and forcing them to carry emotional weight they're not well built for.

I mean: "Batman should be Rated R" is kind of a fundamentally weird statement to make, isn't it? "Superman should be Rated R"

What? Why? I mean, yeah, they can be. Obviously there are stories deconstructing their mythologies that work for adults, there are examples of good stories where you remove these heroes from their medium and translate them for adult-ish audiences. But why should that be the default mode of adaptation?

I'm curious as to how the conventional wisdom of what a superhero movie should play like might change when Lego Batman finally drops.
 

Astral Dog

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Keeps doing better and better, dat word of mouth. Makes me wish that Suicide Squad was Rated R instead of doing the hard PG-13 thing. WB Producer of the Superhero films said last year:
Oh man, i thought they were going for something darker with Suicide Squad :(
It has a pretty good rating on Rotten Tomatoes.



Yes.
Thanks! I was going to see it today but with many terrible movies i seen recently i was not sure.
 

DrForester

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Kind of wish I worked in a theater for a few weeks just to see the ways kids try to sneak into this movie.

Keeps doing better and better, dat word of mouth. Makes me wish that Suicide Squad was Rated R instead of doing the hard PG-13 thing. WB Producer of the Superhero films said last year:

I have a feeling that Suicide Squad's marketing is going to change a lot now. Play up the comedy stuff a lot more.
 
I strongly doubted it would do so well. I thought this would be another Snakes on a Plane where internet hype didn't translate to box office. Glad to be wrong. Well-earned hit and a much-needed win for Ryan Reynolds.

Deadpool is blowing up so big as an R rated comic book movie because it's basically a comedy.

I feel like any studio that uses this as evidence to start green lighting any R comic movie will regret it.

They in fact have and have already regretted it. There's been a couple dozen R-rated comic book movies in the last 20 years and they bomb just as often as they succeed. Only a few of them have actually had a great return on investment. That's why getting the greenlight and budget for this movie was such an ordeal to begin with. No studio wants another Blade 3 or Punisher, certainly not another Dredd. Luckily, it looks like it's going to be another 300.

But outside of the Hangover series, adult-oriented comedy is rarely huge business these days. It's not like the 60s-80s where some of the biggest hits were Animal House, Blazing Saddles, and Beverly Hills Cop. The PG-13 rating is still king of box office and the biggest movies today are action/adventure.
 

Slayven

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I think the bigger problem is taking characters designed for, successful because of, and aimed at children and turning them into R-rated characters in R-rated stories. To a lesser extent, forcing them to exist in live-action is also a problem.

I mean: "Batman should be Rated R" is kind of a fundamentally weird statement to make, isn't it? "Superman should be Rated R"

What? Why? I mean, yeah, they can be. Obviously there are stories deconstructing their mythologies that work for adults, there are examples of good stories where you remove these heroes from their medium and translate them for adult-ish audiences. But why should that be the default mode of adaptation?

I'm curious as to how the conventional wisdom of what a superhero movie should play like might change when Lego Batman finally drops.

Bobby you are my spirit animal.

Lets make it R rated for "reasons" smacks of being a 12 year old and wanting a CD just because it has the parental advisory sticker on it.
 

Sean C

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I think the bigger problem is taking characters designed for, successful because of, and aimed at children and turning them into R-rated characters in R-rated stories. To a lesser extent, forcing them to exist in live-action is also a problem. You're handicapping a lot of the appeal of these characters by limiting what they can do physically and forcing them to carry emotional weight they're not well built for.

I mean: "Batman should be Rated R" is kind of a fundamentally weird statement to make, isn't it? "Superman should be Rated R"

What? Why? I mean, yeah, they can be. Obviously there are stories deconstructing their mythologies that work for adults, there are examples of good stories where you remove these heroes from their medium and translate them for adult-ish audiences. But why should that be the default mode of adaptation?

I'm curious as to how the conventional wisdom of what a superhero movie should play like might change when Lego Batman finally drops.
Christopher Nolan's Batman films are some of the most successful superhero films ever made, so I don't think LEGO Batman is going to prompt any reassessments on that point.
 

Verendus

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Keeps doing better and better, dat word of mouth. Makes me wish that Suicide Squad was Rated R instead of doing the hard PG-13 thing. WB Producer of the Superhero films said last year:
This is pretty sensible.

If you look at Marvel, they've conditioned the audience pretty well. Their movies don't feel different at all. There may be a shallow coat of paint over some of them, but they're all similar in tone. This helps their franchise because audiences kind of know what to expect as they go from one movie to another. They don't have to be afraid of a jarring experience or something catching them off guard.

When you make a popcorn flick, it has to be a popcorn flick. I know some people will complain that they're formulaic, but that's what mass market entertainment tends to look like. That's why it's successful. You have to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Warner Bros. is no doubt thinking along the same lines. They want audiences to cross over into other movies, and one way of doing that is trying to keep them as tonally consistent as possible.
 

sn00zer

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Deadpool is blowing up so big as an R rated comic book movie because it's basically a comedy.

I feel like any studio that uses this as evidence to start green lighting any R comic movie will regret it.

Yup. This movie isnt really a phenomenon. Its very similar to Kick Ass and Kingsman and other similar comedy action movies.
 
Christopher Nolan's Batman films are some of the most successful superhero films ever made, so I don't think LEGO Batman is going to prompt any reassessments on that point.

Why wouldn't it? If Lego Batman opens to like 95mil opening weekend and gets north of 90% on Rotten Tomatoes with an average score of 8.5 or higher, how doesn't that cause people to start knee-jerk re-assessing the entire game? We're doing it now with Deadpool: "The easy lesson to takeaway here is that people want gore and cusswords in their superhero movies, obviously. So stupid for the studios not to have seen this."

Why wouldn't similar conversations spring up in the face of a huge success for a lighthearted, self-aware, comedic, family-friendly Batman movie? Especially since we've already had those conversations when Guardians blew up a couple years ago (which wasn't even all that family-friendly. Hell, none of the Marvel studios movies are, honestly. They're kid-proofed, but not kid-friendly).

I think it'll be interesting to see how people's armchair playbooks get scribbled over when we get a version of Batman & Superman that dares to have fun above all. Even if those versions of the characters are little yellow claw-handed people.

Yup. This movie isnt really a phenomenon. Its very similar to Kick Ass and Kingsman and other similar comedy action movies.

This too. Superhero isn't really a separate genre as it is a specific sort of dressing you drizzle on the genres of sci-fi and action-adventure.
 
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