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[The Frankman]

Hate to break it to you, but that's never going to happen.

I would be shocked if Melo brings the ball up the court regularly in Game 2 as opposed to Douglas.

He's already done that during the season when Billups was hurt.

 

[Sanjuro]

One person doesn't make it a discussion, ignore the comment then. You made it a discussion (and a logically flawed one) by your replies. Now I'm done, good day sir.

Again, you fail to comprehend basic things. It's a discussion because one person started it by posting false information. You just have no concept about how sporting discussion (or probably any discussion) is done. If any of you brought this conversation up at the bar I would just sip on my beer and roll my eyes at the bartender. It's that pathetic.

 

[captmcblack]

Hate to break it to you, but that's never going to happen.

I would be shocked if Melo brings the ball up the court regularly in Game 2, as opposed to Douglas.

When Billups got hurt after the Knicks v. Magic game 3/2, Toney Douglas became starting PG, Melo assumed a point forward role and brought the ball up with fair regularity, and the Knicks went 4 - 2.

D'Antoni will do it if he has to. I hope he decides that he has to, if only because it will force more usage of the STAT x Melo pick and roll game. That is probably his best offensive weapon.

 

[dschalter]

Okay, Knicks fans,

- Jermaine O'Neal shot for 100% and out played Carmelo Anthony who was 5-18 shooting.

- Chauncey kept throwing up ill-advised shots and was 3-11 in his terrible outing.

- Knicks completely butchered in the final moments of the game a chance to tie by not paying attention as little as the Celtics were.

Is this the refs fault? This is simply a YES or NO answer.

this argument makes no sense. you can point to three things that celtics did badly as well during the game. this "but they made mistakes" gets used to excuse terrible reffing in every sport and it is meaningless every time.

 

[The Frankman]

Again, you fail to compre-

I BELIEVE I FUCKING SAID GOOD DAY SIR!!!

 

[StickSoldier]

When I heard Dan Crawford was going to be the head ref tonight, it made me want to vomit in my cubicle at work. A couple more juicy tidbits from Bill Simmons (last year):



It will cerainly be an interesting game tonight.

Haha yeah man, it's such a fucking joke. It makes me believe what Donaghy said to an extent, and these playoffs aren't helping lessen my stance either. I don't really see how the Mavs can win this game tonight, unless it's a blowout which is highly unlikely.

Hopefully tonight the games are good regardless. I'm ready to see what happens in the Thunder/Nugs game, especially after how the Nuggets ended the last game.

 

[Bread]

this argument makes no sense. you can point to three things that celtics did badly as well during the game. this "but they made mistakes" gets used to excuse terrible reffing in every sport and it is meaningless every time.

If the Knicks didn't play stupid, they wouldn't have let the Celtics back in the game, I can see why you think the Celtics didn't deserve to win, but the Knicks certainly deserved to lose the way they fucked up the 4th quarter.

Sanjuro, arguments with Frankman end when he says so! Don't speak to him unless he initiates a conversation.

 

[SonnyBoy]

The Knicks had their chance and blew it. You're going to get bad calls, it's inevitable...

- Play defense
a. the backdoor alley-oop
b. who the hell was supposed to be guarding Jesus-Shuttlesworth?

- Better decision making
a. why is Melo going hawk and ignoring Amare?
b. why doesn't Melo dump the ball down to Amare at the end of the game instead of attempting a ridiculously long shot?
c. they needed 2, not 3 points.


The call wasn't good but the Knicks had their shot/s.

 

[Sanjuro]

I BELIEVE I FUCKING SAID GOOD DAY SIR!!!

Well don't say I didn't give you plenty of opportunities to not look dumb in this thread then.

 

[The Frankman]

Sanjuro, arguments with Frankman end when he says so! Don't speak to him unless he initiates a conversation.

Actually it ended when he decided it was more fun to troll then post in a logical manner, but your reason works too!

 

[numble]

- Better decision making
a. why is Melo going hawk and ignoring Amare?
b. why doesn't Melo dump the ball down to Amare at the end of the game instead of attempting a ridiculously long shot?
c. they needed 2, not 3 points.

It's always been Melo's dream to hit a game-winning buzzer beater as a Knick. He'll be stubborn and keep pushing for it until he gets it. Cue the "I'm Coming Home" music.

 

[reilo]

This is one of the headlines on ESPN...

Mavs 2-16 in playoff games ref Crawford works

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=6388692

 

[Sanjuro]

Actually it ended when he decided it was more fun to troll then post in a logical manner, but your reason works too!

I've been pretty logical. Again, I reeeeallly don't think you understand what trolling really is Frankman. I'm engaging proper discussion with everyone now in Knicks-Age. You seem to be the only one making standalone points that nobody can discuss.

this argument makes no sense. you can point to three things that celtics did badly as well during the game. this "but they made mistakes" gets used to excuse terrible reffing in every sport and it is meaningless every time.

It makes sense because the Celtics won the game. If we had lost, I would be pulling up names and performances like everyone else.

 

[SamuraiX-]

When Billups got hurt after the Knicks v. Magic game 3/2, Toney Douglas became starting PG, Melo assumed a point forward role and brought the ball up with fair regularity, and the Knicks went 4 - 2.

D'Antoni will do it if he has to. I hope he decides that he has to, if only because it will force more usage of the STAT x Melo pick and roll game. That is probably his best offensive weapon.

I guess I didn't watch enough Knicks games this season.

Wasn't that 4-2 period also when they lost to the Cavs? Either way, beating on the Hornets, Hawks, Jazz and Grizzlies doesn't say much about its effectiveness, I think.

Tonight should be a fun game.

This is one of the headlines on ESPN...


http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=6388692

Redemption. lol

 

[StickSoldier]

This is one of the headlines on ESPN...


http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=6388692

Watch the game, and you'll see why it's a headline. The way that fucking idiot Dan Cawford refs is just a shame.

 

[Sanjuro]

This is one of the headlines on ESPN...


http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=6388692

Wasn't he the same guy who ejected Duncan? Maybe he just rejected the "Don't Mess with Texas" motto.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

Sanjuro is going 1 on 5 vs. Knicks-Age

Page 191 was amazing.

 

[reilo]

Watch the game, and you'll see why it's a headline. The way that fucking idiot Dan Cawford refs is just a shame.

Why yes, thank you. I have never heard or witnessed Dan Crawford referee a game. I'm glad that your one year experience watching the NBA has finally shone a light on the bad ways of Dan Crawford.

Wasn't he the same guy who ejected Duncan? Maybe he just rejected the "Don't Mess with Texas" motto.

No, that was Joey Crawford.

 

[KingGondo]

Why yes, thank you. I have never heard or witnessed Dan Crawford referee a game. I'm glad that your one year experience watching the NBA has finally shone a light on the bad ways of Dan Crawford.

Go easy on him, he was a Mavs fan before the Thunder came to OKC.

I have to stick up for the young Thunder-Agers.

 

[StickSoldier]

Why yes, thank you. I have never heard or witnessed Dan Crawford referee a game. I'm glad that your one year experience watching the NBA has finally shone a light on the bad ways of Dan Crawford.


No, that was Joey Crawford.

Lol.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Wasn't that 4-2 period also when they lost to the Cavs? Either way, beating on the Hornets, Hawks, Jazz and Grizzlies doesn't say much about its effectiveness, I think.

3 out of 4 playoff teams, and all who won their first game as well.

 

[Bread]

Sanjuro is going 1 on 5 vs. Knicks-Age

Why yes, thank you. I have never heard or witnessed Dan Crawford referee a game. I'm glad that your one year experience watching the NBA has finally shone a light on the bad ways of Dan Crawford.

hahahaha damn reilo don't hurt em

 

[Sanjuro]

Sanjuro is going 1 on 5 vs. Knicks-Age

Page 191 was amazing.

It's as easy as a God of War boss battle.

 

[reilo]

Sanjuro is going 1 on 5 vs. Knicks-Age

Carmelo-esque.

 

[StickSoldier]

Go easy on him, he was a Mavs fan before the Thunder came to OKC.

I have to stick up for the young Thunder-Agers.

No big deal, a lot of Thunder fans now are probably bandwagon fans, but I've been watching them since they came down. I remember watching their first game against the Bucks, it was such a bad game lol. I've actually been watching the Mavs since '99, so they I still gotta go for them against other teams.

 

[Bishman]

This is one of the headlines on ESPN...


http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=6388692

Wow! This is some bullshit!

 

[Blackface]

 

[SephCast]

Wow! This is some bullshit!

I don't see how Joey Crawford still has a job in the NBA.

 

[kevo_huevo]

Well, I think the mavs are pretty much at the top of the list when it comes to least fouls committed. So there's that to look forward to.

Actually, the blazers and mavs commit 19.3 and 19.2 fouls per game respectively.
Blazers shoot 22.4 fts a game, while mavs attempt 22.6.

Those numbers will not hold up tonight.

 

[Sanjuro]

Just give the NBA Carl Crawford. Fucker isn't hitting shit.

 

[reilo]

I don't see how Joey Crawford still has a job in the NBA.

Wrong Crawford people.

Dan:

Joe:

Well, I think the mavs are pretty much at the top of the list when it comes to least fouls committed. So there's that to look forward to.

Actually, the blazers and mavs commit 19.3 and 19.2 fouls per game respectively.
Blazers shoot 22.4 fts a game, while mavs attempt 22.6.

Those numbers will not hold up tonight.

Which is why Game 1 was such a huge discrepancy based on season averages. Portland was -9 in attempts, while Dallas was +6. Yet Portland had a 48-18 points-in-the-paint advantage.

 

[Bishman]

As we pointed out before Sunday’s Game 1, in Mavs playoffs games worked by Crawford from 2001-to-2005, the Mavs record was 0-8. (Those years, Dallas was 41-37 in games NOT worked by Crawford.)

Now we’re updated to this additional info: Since 2001, the Mavs are 53-50 overall in playoffs. Dallas record when Crawford is NOT working the game is 52-35. Dallas’ record when Crawford IS working the Mavs game is. … 1-15.

Want more? The one Mavs win under Crawford’s watch was in the 2006 Phoenix series, a Dallas blowout victory. Also in 2006, in the NBA Finals, guess who worked Game 3 against the Heat, when Dwyane Wade was allowed to shoot as many FTs (18) as the entire Mavs team made, all leading to Dallas’ two-point loss? That would be Danny Crawford.

And in Game 6, when the Mavs lost by three points?And Wade shot 21 free throws, two fewer than the number shot by the entire Mavs team?

Danny Crawford strikes again.

Tonight game will be fun.

 

[Bread]

http://i.imgur.com/jUNTQ.jpg[img][/QUOTE]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wugrOmbsV3U"]Truly an MVP effort, he has MJ level of intensity and he knows how to get it done in the 4th quarter.[/URL]

 

[kevo_huevo]

two crawfords of equal douche-ality.

 

[SamuraiX-]

Truly an MVP effort, he has MJ level of intensity and he knows how to get it done in the 4th quarter.

Wow... I don't remember this.

Holy fucking shit, that's terrible.

I think he realized that if he didn't give Billups the foul that he would have gotten fucking dog piled by all those fans behind him.

 

[KingGondo]

No big deal, a lot of Thunder fans now are probably bandwagon fans, but I've been watching them since they came down. I remember watching their first game against the Bucks, it was such a bad game lol. I've actually been watching the Mavs since '99, so they I still gotta go for them against other teams.

If you think that first game was bad on TV, imagine being there (which I was). Truly awful.

To go from that to where we are now in such a short period of time is pretty amazing (and unprecedented).

 

[dschalter]

I've been pretty logical. Again, I reeeeallly don't think you understand what trolling really is Frankman. I'm engaging proper discussion with everyone now in Knicks-Age. You seem to be the only one making standalone points that nobody can discuss.



It makes sense because the Celtics won the game. If we had lost, I would be pulling up names and performances like everyone else.

the point is that you can look at any team, regardless if they won or lost and say "they made mistakes, they executed poorly, player x was terrible." saying that doesn't change the fact that the better team should win, rather than the one that is slightly worse, but gets some help from refs.'

that being said, home teams in general get lots of help from the refs, so it isn't some really scandalous and shocking development.

 

[reilo]

Wow... I don't remember this.

Holy fucking shit, that's terrible.

I think he realized that if he didn't give Billups the foul that he would have gotten fucking dog piled by all those fans behind him.

I don't even understand under which NBA rule he can call a foul on Billups in that situation. The referee is supposed to be part of the court. Somehow, Crawford became part of Chauncey. Wtf.

 

[SamuraiX-]

I don't even understand under which NBA rule he can call a foul on Billups in that situation. The referee is supposed to be part of the court. Somehow, Crawford became part of Chauncey. Wtf.

There isn't one.

But wtf was he gonna call? Turnover on Jones? Those fans wouldn't have let him get back up.

 

[JoeFu]

Both Crawfords suck and tonight is gonna suck.

 

[SephCast]

Wrong Crawford people.

Ah, oh well. Joey is still a prick. Strangely, though, I always though Dan Crawford was a pretty decent ref.

 

[Sanjuro]

the point is that you can look at any team, regardless if they won or lost and say "they made mistakes, they executed poorly, player x was terrible." saying that doesn't change the fact that the better team should win, rather than the one that is slightly worse, but gets some help from refs.'

that being said, home teams in general get lots of help from the refs, so it isn't some really scandalous and shocking development.

That is why I'm calling most of you guys out. If that is common knowledge, why are most of you acting like your team put on a awe-inspiring performance? Ultimately it always comes down to who played better than who, game one was the Boston Celtics. You still have games to play.

 

[captmcblack]

How does one get to be a ref anyway? There is a training school for them like they have for umpires in baseball, right?

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Bulls well represented in Defensive Player of the Year voting.

Deng finished 10th.

Noah 15th.

And which one of you guys properly gave Keith Bogans a vote(first place one to boot)???

 

[SamuraiX-]

Strangely, though, I always though Dan Crawford was a pretty decent ref.

Same.

I've never usually seen too many bull shit calls/non-calls when he's the head ref in a game.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Ah, oh well. Joey is still a prick. Strangely, though, I always though Dan Crawford was a pretty decent ref.

I respect Jack Nies and Steve Javi, not sure about the rest.

Joey Crawford's an asshole and Dick Bavetta is washed up and Hugh Hollins was a terrible ref but he's probably a pimp now.

 

[reilo]

Steve Javi

What? Why would you respect him? He's probably the worst referee of them all.

 

[snack]

How does one get to be a ref anyway? There is a training school for them like they have for umpires in baseball, right?

Yeah, there are camps for them.

 

[Sanjuro]

How does one get to be a ref anyway? There is a training school for them like they have for umpires in baseball, right?

It's like a porn audition with Stern.

 

[AgentChris]

Toney Douglas needs to