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AMERICAN HORROR STORY: Coven |OT| When witches don't fight, we burn....

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Good episode.

So Zoe is lining up to be the new supreme? Very disappointing. Was hoping she'd die a gruesome death at the hands of frankenkyle....there's still time though. There's still time.

Cordelia's face wasn't as gruesome as I expected based on Fiona's reaction to seeing her, but it looks like she gained a new power in the process...which is cool I guess.

We need more Misty. She had better be in the next episode for more than just a few minutes...we need an entire episode dedicated to her...

Sucks that Myrtle is already gone, but boy...what a scene and the whole scene prior with Fiona was fantastic. They have great chemistry. Glad she's not gone for good.

Good God at the scene with Spaulding and Madison. Where in the hell are going with that storyline exactly?
 

3phemeral

Member
I suppose the natural choice for next supreme would be Zoe since despite the fact that Coredlia also gained a new power, her health isn't glowing as she can't have a baby. Queenie hasn't displayed any new gifts and Fiona was obviously playing her to keep her from talking (and wouldn't play her role up if she had felt threatened). Nan hasn't really shown any remarkable abilities but they seem to be building up a pseudo romance for her arc.

What I'm curious about is now that Zoe can make things revert to their "natural" state and Laveau's primarily ability was necromancy, what other tricks do they have up their sleeve?
According to the preview, even Laveau has no counter to Zoe's new ability and has to resort to a witch hunter, which means she probably wasn't behind the acid attack.
 

kirblar

Member
I wonder if Zoe's power set is actually just pure destruction. (Contrasted with Misty's being creation.) Sex is normally "creative" but she uses it to kill. And now we see that she can dispel magic. Her attempt at resurrection also didn't go too well.
 

3phemeral

Member
I wonder if Zoe's power set is actually just pure destruction. (Contrasted with Misty's being creation.) Sex is normally "creative" but she uses it to kill. And now we see that she can dispel magic. Her attempt at resurrection also didn't go too well.

This is a good point, I think, as I wonder how they'll build their relationship up with each other. Misty seemed awfully interested in Zoe (even if her character has been described as naturally curious and a strong sense of family and well, being a swamp hermit). I'm hoping it's more than Misty just being curious and there's an inherent attraction because of their polar-opposite abilities.
 

ultron87

Member
The one thing I'm really having trouble buying right now is the total flip on Kathy Bates' character. Like she went from of the most horrible people ever and now she is all emotional and sad about her daughters and being kind and respectful to Queenie. Obviously spending hundreds of year alive in a box would change someone, but I still don't really buy it.

She is playing an actual historically evil person too, which makes any attempts at eliciting sympathy even more uncomfortable. Which is probably the point, I guess.
 
This is a good point, I think, as I wonder how they'll build their relationship up with each other. Misty seemed awfully interested in Zoe (even if her character has been described as naturally curious and a strong sense of family and well, being a swamp hermit). I'm hoping it's more than Misty just being curious and there's an inherent attraction because of their polar-opposite abilities.

Alpha/Omega type situation?
 

3phemeral

Member
Alpha/Omega type situation?

Who knows, but prior to Zoe's default ability, I'm curious how they'll develop her character with Misty's. There's still a surprising amount of ambiguity going on, even with as much that's been already happening. It's great! Aside from the instant-life and instant-death, they've - at the very least - have limited Misty's widespread effect by secluding her to the swamps and so far preventing any kind of Hero's magic-cheerleader-blood snaffu. Plus, they really haven't delved too much into Mitsy's character to explain if she does have a limit or a balance to her abilities.

It would be interesting if there was an underlying relationship between Misty/Zoe in that whenever Zoe took a life, Misty gave life or vice versa, but I don't think there's any evidence for that.
 

Nemesis_

Member
The one thing I'm really having trouble buying right now is the total flip on Kathy Bates' character. Like she went from of the most horrible people ever and now she is all emotional and sad about her daughters and being kind and respectful to Queenie. Obviously spending hundreds of year alive in a box would change someone, but I still don't really buy it.

She is playing an actual historically evil person too, which makes any attempts at eliciting sympathy even more uncomfortable. Which is probably the point, I guess.

It will change, I have a feeling something will come. Whether it's her realising she's immortal so she can do whatever the fuck she wants or not.

Oh and some NEWS.

Angela Bassett and Kathy Bates approached to return for Season 4

“I have approached them and they wanna do it,” says Murphy. He adds, “That’s very exciting when you can work with A.) actresses you’ve always idolized and B.) those two are loving this season. They love what they get to do. Kathy Bates sent the writers a basket of plush toys all in the shapes of disemboweled organs. It doesn’t get better than when an Oscar winner sends you a grab bag of stuffed pancreas to say ‘Thank you and job well done.’”

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/11/07/american-horror-story-kathy-bates-angela-bassett-season-4/

and NEW INTERVIEWS

Interview with Frances Conroy on Myrtle Snow
And the usual post-episode interview with Ryan
 
It will change, I have a feeling something will come. Whether it's her realising she's immortal so she can do whatever the fuck she wants or not.

Oh and some NEWS.

Angela Bassett and Kathy Bates approached to return for Season 4
Great news

Now who I'd really love to see on the show is Justified and American's Margo Martindale.
 
Cordelia's eyes being burned seemed to alter her powers. She was able to see truths by touch. Things she has not picked up on before. I'm wondering if the acid to the face was intentional in that this outcome was already known.
 

braves01

Banned
I loved the *most recent episode spoilers*
"right place, wrong time" music during the witch burning and Taissa's great Evil Dead moments chainsawing all the zombies. The homages and camp are delightful
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
So glad Bassett and Bates are back on board for season four. Now just make sure there's no trace of Taissa Farmiga next season.

*avatar quote*

You know she'll be back with Evan Peters.

But the bigger question mark is Jessica Lange. I really hope she stays. :(

I want more Nip/Tuck alumni, I think it's where Ryan Murphy picked up both Sarah Paulson and Lily Rabe from. Kelly Carlson, Rhona Mitra and AnnaLynne McCord please. :p

You're forgetting Jannsensusallah:

ie8rjxRVai5MP.gif
 

anaron

Member
Cordelia's eyes being burned seemed to alter her powers. She was able to see truths by touch. Things she has not picked up on before. I'm wondering if the acid to the face was intentional in that this outcome was already known.
That's what I'm thinking too. I mean, Myrtle said she was blinded to everything and now she is seeing the truth...

#praisemyrtle


Oh and yes fucking please to Famke joining. Make it so.
 
Watching the episode now and forgot to start my updates.

Aw, Kathy Bates goes from revolting me to making me cry.

At the part where Zoe goes full on Evil Dead. Finally you are useful.

Delia's eyes are gross. Ew. Things are only gonna go worse from here.

Ohhhhh, bitchfest between Fiona and Serial Killer Hubby.

BTW, that moment where Lange is slowly losing it, and meets the young mother was phenomenal.

Oh shit! Bitch be clairvoyant!

Bitch be making plans to off Zoe. I feel it in my boooooooooooones.

Oh, bureaucratic bitch-off! Myrtle Snow getting shown who is boss.

This is sooooooooooo dramatic, dayum.

Jessica Lange is a straight up detective now. Love it.

Oh fuck, Myrtle did it!? Burning at the stake!? Oh damn.

Lol, fantastic music for an execution.

Goddamn. "I'd rather burn than boil."

LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA

Oh shit! Fiona framed her!?!? Fuuuuuuuuuck.

Oh Spaulding, what the fuck. Christ.

Yes! My beloved swamp beauty is back! I loooove you! And Myrtle's back! Love it when a plan comes together. Marry me, Lily Rabe.

LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA
 

Nemesis_

Member
You're forgetting Jannsensusallah:

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How could I forget! I assume she liked working with Ryan since she returned as Ava for the final season.

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Hopefully they'll be able to pen a deal.

Heck even Jacqueline Bisset. She would've fit perfectly in this season.
 
Good episode but aside from the voodoo angle I'm not enjoying this season nearly as much as the last one. Every episode was fucking bananas
 

pizza dog

Banned
I <3 Misty. All these witch bitches ain't nothing compared to her.

Misty, Jessica Lange, and Bates are the only things this season has going for it so far. I'm pretty disappointed. Seems to have a hard time getting going. This week's got to the end and I was just like "huh? it's over? but nothing's happened tho". So little development or tension or anything. I dunno.
 

Weapxn

Mikkelsexual
This week's got to the end and I was just like "huh? it's over? but nothing's happened tho".
This is the only part of your post that I agree with. This week's episode should have aired with last week's as a 2-hour special, and then they could have taken this week off. Splitting them up was a poor decision on someone's part.

This season has a lot going for it though, in my opinion. It's been the most consistent story-wise so far; no completely idiotic subplots like Asylum had...yet, at least. It might have the best cast right now out of all three seasons, and I'm sure it could only get better as more people pop in eventually. Jessica Lange is giving her best performance of the series right now, and Bates and Bassett are flawless. The only downside to the season right now is that Taissa Farmiga is back with a seemingly prominent role. I also really hope they give us a bit more Patti LuPone sometime soon.
 

Fantastical

Death Prophet
I honestly think this season is shaping up to be better than 2. I didn't love the first two episodes, but the concept was interesting, and I think the last two episodes have been incredible. At the end of both of those I couldn't wait for next week.

While Zoe has been horrible, it looks like her story may be improving, and she has barely been in the show anyways. Lange vs. Conroy is incredible.
 

shadowkat

Unconfirmed Member
Zoe was briefly likeable when wielding the chainsaw then went back to normal. Really disappointed that she's probably the Supreme.

I'm confused with how Fiona's powers work. She can apparently bring a dead baby back to life but she can't heal Cordelia? Using Queenie to frame Myrtle is not going to end well for Queenie. :(

Delphine is sympathetic AND horrifying.

Spaulding is creepy as fuck.

Not enough of Misty.
 
I hope Evan Peters goes missing for the remainder of the season.

That's not a knock on him as an actor, but I have zero interest in this Zoe Frankenstein storyline.
 

3phemeral

Member
I imagine the mechanism for giving life was different from healing wounds, as technically she could "heal" her aging if she could, right?

I'm also wondering if innate abilities are different from Supreme abilities, as apparently once you're the Supreme, your magic can be drained when I new one is developing. Misty doesn't seem to be affected at all by resurgence, but Fiona seemed like a piece of her was sucked out when she gave Queenie a kick start.
 

1cmanny1

Member
Good episode, but the Dead Rising chainsaw thing was too much. I mean come on.

Also why can she revive dead babies, but not heal skin?
 

j-wood

Member
I predict the following:

Misty has brought the red haired witch that was burned back to life now (myrtle?, can't remember). Myrtle realizes her power, so they sent out to try and find Madison, so Misty can bring her back to life and they gain proof against Fiona.
 
That's what I'm thinking too. I mean, Myrtle said she was blinded to everything and now she is seeing the truth...

#praisemyrtle


Oh and yes fucking please to Famke joining. Make it so.

Would be wild if Fiona framed myrtle only to have myrtle be the perp the whole time. If it's not her, I think it could be someone else with ulterior motives. The voodoo women are too obvious I think.


Yeah, I wonder about that too. She was also able to bring Queenie back to life, wasn't she?

Healing isn't bringing someone back to life maybe? The two abilities aren't the same? I have a feeling it costs Fiona some of her life when she does this too.
 

RatskyWatsky

Hunky Nostradamus
Healing isn't bringing someone back to life maybe? The two abilities aren't the same? I have a feeling it costs Fiona some of her life when she does this too.

Yeah, I guess they're two separate abilities. But if Madison and Zoe could use a spell to bring back Kyle, then surely there must be a spell they could use to heal Cordelia?
 
The one thing I'm really having trouble buying right now is the total flip on Kathy Bates' character. Like she went from of the most horrible people ever and now she is all emotional and sad about her daughters and being kind and respectful to Queenie. Obviously spending hundreds of year alive in a box would change someone, but I still don't really buy it.

She is playing an actual historically evil person too, which makes any attempts at eliciting sympathy even more uncomfortable. Which is probably the point, I guess.

I'd have (slightly) less of an issue with trying to make LaLaurie quasi-sympathetic if this wasn't in the EXACT SAME EPISODE as a flashback depicting her disemboweling and eye- gouging her slaves just for a Halloween prank.
 
I'd have (slightly) less of an issue with trying to make LaLaurie quasi-sympathetic if this wasn't in the EXACT SAME EPISODE as a flashback depicting her disemboweling and eye- gouging her slaves just for a Halloween prank.

You're supposed to feel conflicted and torn about it. That's how you know it's a good story point as well, especially considering the subject at hand.
 

wildfire

Banned
I wonder if Zoe's power set is actually just pure destruction. (Contrasted with Misty's being creation.) Sex is normally "creative" but she uses it to kill. And now we see that she can dispel magic. Her attempt at resurrection also didn't go too well.

If Zoe is the supreme she has no powerset. She will learn to do everything any witch can do.
 
My gf and I caught up on this season (i've watched both previous; she just Asylum).

I was a little concerned the story would be hard to make believable in the first episode, but the writing is just brilliant and those concerns are gone. Great fucking season.

Only thing I will say is that there is one sound effect that seems entirely over-used in every episode. I know everyone knows what I'm talking about.
 

Nemesis_

Member
My gf and I caught up on this season (i've watched both previous; she just Asylum).

I was a little concerned the story would be hard to make believable in the first episode, but the writing is just brilliant and those concerns are gone. Great fucking season.

Only thing I will say is that there is one sound effect that seems entirely over-used in every episode. I know everyone knows what I'm talking about.

There's the "La La La La LAA LAAAAAA" and the "COR HRIBSUIR IUBSFUISHNSI" roaring noise. I assume it's the latter? I remember in Asylum they used a really high pitched string noise a lot too.
 
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