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Batman AK PC Perf Thread of DARKNESS, NO SETTINGS [30fps cap / intro removal in OP]
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I believe that others mentioned that this is likely a texture streaming issue and not an issue with the resolution of the textures themselves (didn't a lot of players have experiences with the "real" textures loading in after about a minute?).
I'm not going to sit here and pretend like I know a single thing about how games actually work, but I know that there's something still seriously wrong with texture quality here, regardless of what is causing it. Anyone who says those aren't PS2 level textures need their eyes checked.
Arkham Knight is a beautiful game, I eventually played it on PS4 and was stunned, but those textures are quite literally PS2-level textures and that's not hyperbole.
It's hard to keep track of all of the problems with this game
Pilgrimzero
Member
Just tried it after the patch. Still getting between 15-25 FPS.
It would be useful if you could list your specs (GPU, CPU, ram, OS and drivers).
Have you tweaked anything ? If so, delete your config files and verify the files.
JRW
Member
Because it's not 2002 anymore and this is what Batman is littered with.
Those aren't low textures. Those are lower than shit textures. 2gb vram should be able to do more than that....just look at The Witcher 3.
Edit: Also see two posts above.
lol ya Witcher 3 actually runs better for me too on a 670 FTW 2GB.
Garrett Hawke
Member
Are you trying normal textures? They're fucked on 2GB cards.
Normal require 3gb.
I'm trying low textures and they aren't even loading like the screenshots above.
TwilightPrincess
Member
But they should not.
Delete your BMEngine.ini and BMSystemSettings.ini files and try playing again. The game makes new ones when you start it.
Garrett Hawke
Member
Brofist
Member
Thanks, will try that.
Thanks. Will try that and will report back with the results
Barrow Roll
Member
GTX 770 4GB
i5 2550k @ 4.5 GHz
Windows 7
Using 60 FPS cap in RTSS to smooth out frame times since they're all over the place without it.
Even on the lowest possible settings without dropping below native res I won't be able to get a consistent 60 FPS on my setup, which I don't think is an unreasonable thing to ask for given my specs.
Also, I'm pretty sure the intensity of light sources in the distance is still not a match for the PS4 version.
i5 2550k @ 4.5 GHz
Windows 7
Using 60 FPS cap in RTSS to smooth out frame times since they're all over the place without it.
Even on the lowest possible settings without dropping below native res I won't be able to get a consistent 60 FPS on my setup, which I don't think is an unreasonable thing to ask for given my specs.
Also, I'm pretty sure the intensity of light sources in the distance is still not a match for the PS4 version.
I was able to fix the streaming textures issue I was having. I deleted the config folder located in: \Steam\SteamApps\common\Batman Arkham Knight\BMGame and then verified the game cache through steam. Now the game is playing much better despite having to use low textures but that's what I get for using a 2GB card.
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
Have you tried fullscreen instead of borderless?
Let me ask, have to installed the game before the patch released or was this with a fresh install?
Barrow Roll
Member
Yup, not much of a difference. And with fullscreen I'd have to deal with screen tearing or 60>30 FPS drops because we only have Adaptive Vsync and double buffer Vsync. I don't believe there's any way to force Triple Buffering in this game beyond using borderless windowed.
I had the issue when I had the game already installed and then applied the patch. Then I proceeded to delete the game and then re-install it again and still had the issue. The only thing that fixed it for me was to completely remove the config folder. Maybe some of the files stuck around when I installed it again?
Yeah i think there is a good chance when you uninstalled it left the config files.
Edit; actually that seems weird since the conifg is apparently located inside the steam folder so it should have been removed....maybe they fucked up the patch.
I think the Config files must have stuck around because I remember going through the config files after the fresh install and the pre-patch modifications I had made to them were still there.
Lockjaw333
Member
Tried the patch, was getting a solid 60 for the most part maxed out on my 970, but the game still doesn't quite look like it does on my PS4 playthrough. This game is a waste of time on PC IMO.
Guess its too late to request that refund from GMG...
Guess its too late to request that refund from GMG...
Dictator93
Member
According to every shred of evidence I have seen, the game is superior looking on PC in everfy category... excluding that rain bug that occurs (less rain drops on objects after you reload up the game post-start).
I think GMG said that if you weren't happy with it after the first patch you could get a refund.
i feel I've lost all hope of ever playing the game, the patch does fix some things but the game still runs like shit, after a few hours of gameplay the performance starts to get worse and worse as time goes by, completely deleted the game from my library and i feel sad it has come to this for a franchise I've had so much enthusiasm for
Seeing the suggestions above regarding the fix for the texture streaming issue gave me enough hope to actually download and install the patch.
Now the game crashes on startup every time.
Uninstalled. Done.
Delt31
Member
This should be included in the first page b/c after the patch I was still having issues but after doing this the game can be played 60fps locked with all settings maxed on 1080p with a 980. thanks for the suggestion!
Barrow Roll
Member
Well I can confirm that light sources are still not displaying correctly on the PC version. Look at the blue lights on the Clock Tower.
Revolutionary
Member
I've played it on both. The PC version looks much better, naturally. The console versions have low res particles and weak AA - it's very distracting on certain characters/objects. Catwoman in particular looks like a jaggy mess.
The anti-aliasing solution they're using in the PC version makes some light sources appear much dimmer than their console counterparts. That being said, I'm not sure if that's what we're witnessing here.
In any case, I believe there are 3 things that need to be addressed in the PC version as far as graphical fidelity is concerned. The fist being the "half as wet upon continuing" bug, the second being the DOF that doesn't appear as shallow as on console versions, and finally the anti-aliasing that dims lights and makes rain drops much less visible than they should be. Honestly, I'm amazed that the people testing the game for WB don't seem to notice these things.
Beerman462
Member
Actually a consistent 60fps might be to much to ask for this game. The low settings on PC don't seem all that low. Combine that with the nature of the open world. I've played GTAV and Witcher3 . This game has way more detail on display than GTA5 or Witcher3 at least when looking from a decent height.
I'm not sure what you're looking for here, but I took a screen from the same spot.
It seems fine to me. The PS4 being more "intense" could be for any number of reasons, but I'm just looking at screen shots so who knows.
In what way?
Allnamestakenlol
Member
Is the rain bug fixed yet? I'm guessing not.
Beerman462
Member
Seems fixed. I haven't noticed it missing.
Beerman462
Member
Yeah the texture streaming is crap. I don't notice low textures being too horrible except at the diner looking at the newspaper right in front of you.
Allnamestakenlol
Member
Well, that's something. My only problems with the game were screwy effects, like the rain, and the performance getting progressively worse the further I got into the game.
Beerman462
Member
Pre patch? Yeah, I had that plus...I almost said low res textures, which is technically true, but some people are getting confused. The low setting for textures is noticeable at times, but not horrible. The screen shots in this thread are mostly of unloaded textures. They are textures that are of a lower quality than what the game is supposed to load. Pre patch I had the total shit textures on vehicles, doors, thugs, interactives like consoles and power panels. That's all fixed now.
This is low textures of the infamous sign.
The problem with the rain is still there. The effect isn't missing per se, but it's much less intense/pronounced than originally intended when resuming from a saved game.
Quoting vivek86's comparison once again to make sure we're all talking about the same issue here:
On the Batmobile. It still shows on Batman. It shows on the Batmobile too, but not the extent as it would when you play the game uninterrupted from start.
Load from save:
New game:
Beerman462
Member
plagiarize
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Numbers for anyone interested. My two 980s (one dedicated to PhysX) are getting me around 90 fps when I'm out of the batmobile and 60 to 75 fps when I'm in the batmobile. I did get a couple of pretty big performance drops when diving into the batmobile at one point down to 40 or so fps, but it seemed like an issue streaming from my hard drive (which is fast, but not SSD... I might consider moving this to my SSD to see if that goes away).
It's getting there.
SLI needs to get fixed though, as much as I like Gotham Knight laser light show party.
It's getting there.
SLI needs to get fixed though, as much as I like Gotham Knight laser light show party.
Thanks, but I can't really judge your screenshots since they're not of the same scene. At any rate, these are from a couple minutes ago, post-patch. I'm not saying this happens to everyone, but the problem is still there (for some of us).
New game:
Saved game:
Beerman462
Member
Thanks, but I can't really judge your screenshots since they're not of the same scene. At any rate, these are from a couple minutes ago, post-patch. I'm not saying this happens to everyone, but the problem is still there (for some of us).
New game:
Saved game:
Is it one scene or more? What scene is it anyway that you can use new game or a save for comparison. My screens are just from normal game play. I parked next to a building and rotated the camera. I don't want to trivialize issues, but this seems pretty trivial if you have to seek out the issue with a single scene.
I started a new game and played until the "evening the odds" bit, a.k.a. the introduction to the Batmobile. It's 5 minutes into the game, maybe? Anyhow, so I took the "new game" screen after starting from a blank save slot, then quit before the end of the scene and reloaded the checkpoint to take the second screenshot.
The thing is the issue carries on throughout the rest of the game, which doesn't happen with my PS4 copy.
EDIT: There's a series of screenshot comparisons post-patch on the official forums. Please see post #9 by Noir_Berlin.
https://community.wbgames.com/t5/Support-for-PC/Rain-texture-bug/m-p/765073#M14923
Wildschwein
Member
Put some time into the game without fancy smoke effects. I'm still seeing drops down to 45 while driving, but the game is well and beyond playable now.
I'm just gonna give it another patch or so. My interest in the game has been downgraded given that they launched the patch alongside MGS5.
I'm just gonna give it another patch or so. My interest in the game has been downgraded given that they launched the patch alongside MGS5.
Beerman462
Member
I just recreated this and the loaded save had the same issue. It seems like it takes awhile for the rain effect to catch up. It's not a huge deal, but it is weird.
Thank you very much for verifying it. Something's definitely up with it, yeah.