MyAbsolution
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Wow i just watched it update and it changed from Libs in the lead to PQ ahead by like ten seats. Crazy.
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Canada Poligaf - The Wrath of Harperland
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this is super close between the PQ and Libs. just bouncing back and forth between them as more districts report in.
There are some districts at the bottom of Mtl island that are crazy close.
the gazette map I posted doesn't do that crap.
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/quebecvotes/results.html
There are some districts at the bottom of Mtl island that are crazy close.
the gazette map I posted doesn't do that crap.
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/quebecvotes/results.html
Nah, just be supported by another party. A coalition is a whole other animal. Seems (from my outsider pov) that CAQ supporting PLQ would be the most likely outcome, even if PQ has more seats than either.
But at this point it also looks plausible the PQ could pull off a majority from only 33% of the vote.
MyAbsolution
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And may I ask, what were the "projected outcomes"?
Some of twitter feed also mention 53% voter turnout. Sounds about right honestly for a provincial election. I don't think it'll ever be higher in our elections unless we use some form of proportional rep where people feel their vote counts (imo).
Some of twitter feed also mention 53% voter turnout. Sounds about right honestly for a provincial election. I don't think it'll ever be higher in our elections unless we use some form of proportional rep where people feel their vote counts (imo).
Never ever ever listen to turnout numbers until every vote is counted. The election result feed releases absolute numbers for voting stations that have been counted. When media sites give turnout numbers they divide that number by the number of registered voters *in total*.
So until every station is counted the turnout % number is useless.
Yeah but its maps don't fit on my tv.
Realistically PQ *needs* 61 to take premier, 63 to expect to hold it. Libs will get first crack at government if there isn't a clear majority, and if CAQ supports them and PQ doesn't have 61 they won't govern. Unless they decide to take some kind of high road.
MyAbsolution
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Minorities seem to be a fad these days. Even tho Stephen Harper tried his darnest to tell people they were destructive to society (coalitions too!).
I personally like minorities so we don't have a four year dictatorship.
I personally like minorities so we don't have a four year dictatorship.
Yeah I agree with you on that. I'm really happy Charest lost and that he's also losing in his riding so far.
firehawk12
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The upside is that Harper must be shitting his pants. Even if it's just a little. I hope this messes with any plans he has anyway.
Man we could be in store for some epic parliamentary shenanigans at this rate. Even if he loses his seat, Charest will still technically be both leader of the QLP and the Premier until he resigns or loses the confidence of the house on a throne speech. If he's intent to cling to power that will be very interesting.
There won't be any stricter language law. PQ has a minority government so the other two party will not vote for that as they want the anglophone vote.
if the proposed CEGEP language restrictions die in a fire, I would be most happy.
threehundredeight's projections:
As of now, the only seat-holders in range of the seat projections are the PQ and QS. CAQ and PLQ both way off. In terms of vote %, only correct on PQ and CAQ. QS more efficient and CAQ much less. PQ is only barely on the low end and CAQ only barely on high end.
Of course, the polls were off too. Be interesting to see what his seat model would have given with the final vote counts.
As of now, the only seat-holders in range of the seat projections are the PQ and QS. CAQ and PLQ both way off. In terms of vote %, only correct on PQ and CAQ. QS more efficient and CAQ much less. PQ is only barely on the low end and CAQ only barely on high end.
Of course, the polls were off too. Be interesting to see what his seat model would have given with the final vote counts.
The biggest loser tonight is the CAQ. At one point analysts (and even I) believed they could win. Ouch!
But I'm glad Marois won anyway. She has the experience to be a PM, she has 14 ministers experience under her belt. Moreover a minority will prevent her from using her awful citizenship idea.
But I'm glad Marois won anyway. She has the experience to be a PM, she has 14 ministers experience under her belt. Moreover a minority will prevent her from using her awful citizenship idea.
MyAbsolution
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Yep... and they wonder why people don't bother voting?
I've voted maybe 6-7 times in my life so far, at 25, not ONE SINGLE VOTE has counted. (prov/federal elections)
AlexMeloche
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It was 53% at 5:30PM, so it should be a bigger number at the end of the day.
Not yet but it should be soon. He's losing by close to 1000 votes in his own riding now.
AlexMeloche
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Well, from what I've heard she's way better than before, so I guess she already had some. Legault is actually worse!
Yeah his seat is lost, barring a miracle. But he's still premier 'til he resigns it, seat or no.
With these results y'all are gonna have another election in less than 6 months.
Heh, Legault is winning his seat by less than Charest is losing his.
Can't believe they haven't called Charest's seat yet. No way is he coming back from this.
What would a separated Quebec look like, anyway?
-no more CBC
-would need new currency and banks
-no more CFL team, and what about the Habs in the NHL?
-no English on any public services website
-public funding for French schools only
-loss of English-speaking workforce
...Please add to the list.
-no more CBC
-would need new currency and banks
-no more CFL team, and what about the Habs in the NHL?
-no English on any public services website
-public funding for French schools only
-loss of English-speaking workforce
...Please add to the list.
Nobody should be happy about this unless they just want a do-over. There's no way this legislature will hold together.
The CAQ has enough flip flop potential to keep this afloat for a while!
I'm personally rejoicing about the non-majority. No referendum yaaaaaay.
The liberals will be in the midst of a leadership bid right away. CAQ will smell blood. No way does this stand.
No souverainiste boulecrappe for another 4 years, awesome.
I think this is the best outcome for now. Quebecers get to see what this retooled PQ is made of and will be able to make a more educated decision in the next election instead of just expressing their frustration by voting for anyone but Charest.
I think this is the best outcome for now. Quebecers get to see what this retooled PQ is made of and will be able to make a more educated decision in the next election instead of just expressing their frustration by voting for anyone but Charest.
There wouldn't have been a referendum. Federal hate is high, but not enough to win the vote.
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Glad to see Charest lose, glad to see the CAQ do worst than the media wanted, but sad to see Legault win his riding, since we will have elections again within two years.
Also disappointed Aussant lost, but I am not surprised, they should have been attacking the CAQ's program.
QS didn't get enough votes, only 6% or so. What will they do in the future? The NDP is coming. Either QS merges with ON, to gain 1 or 2%, or they won't grow. They can't merge with NDP without losing votes.
Also disappointed Aussant lost, but I am not surprised, they should have been attacking the CAQ's program.
QS didn't get enough votes, only 6% or so. What will they do in the future? The NDP is coming. Either QS merges with ON, to gain 1 or 2%, or they won't grow. They can't merge with NDP without losing votes.
She can get rid of law 78 though as it doesn't require a vote.
I wonder what will happen with ON. If it's gone for good it will probably help PQ and QS
http://www.electionsquebec.qc.ca/en/resultatsSommaire.asp
Look at the bottom. BUT keep in mind that "Total Voter Turnout" is based on reported polls while "Registered electors" is the total for all polls (including unreported ones). So if you want to know what the likely end-result is going to be you have to do this:
Number of polling stations: (78,30 %)
Voter turnout 58,20 %
58.2%/78.30% = 74.32%
Also top it up a bit for advance votes, which are usually added in last and amount to a fairly large number of votes. Expect the final number to be somewhere around 76-78% from that.
That's the thing though ; CAQ didn't do bad at all, vote-share wise. They got the approximate % the polls gave them. They just got demolished by the system.
Sad to see Aussant lose though. He was a man with a clear vision with good ideas, shame.
I have friends who voted for ON, they must be crushed. They really wanted a monorail, so yeah, must suck for them!
That's pretty good isn't it? The student protests probably raised a lot of awareness among the younger voters.
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