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Canada Poligaf - The Wrath of Harperland
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Liberal MPs Scott Andrews, Massimo Pacetti suspended from caucus amid harassment allegations
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/lib...-caucus-amid-harassment-allegations-1.2824396
Dean Del Mastro, guilty of breaking election laws, resigns
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/dean-del-mastro-guilty-of-breaking-election-laws-resigns-1.2824943
http://mediacrush.net/UwED4W_de5KX
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/lib...-caucus-amid-harassment-allegations-1.2824396
Dean Del Mastro, guilty of breaking election laws, resigns
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/dean-del-mastro-guilty-of-breaking-election-laws-resigns-1.2824943
http://mediacrush.net/UwED4W_de5KX
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Scott is a good guy and well liked in his district... and married, but
. There's a lot of that kind of gossip so I don't normally pay any mind to anything, but when you hear stuff and then something like this happens, you can't help but wonder. Hope the investigation is thorough and fair.
Del Mastro is a totally crummy MP and an awful party flack. The House will be richer for having another MP representing Peterborough, IMHO.
I've heard some low level chatter about him dating around the hill
Del Mastro is a totally crummy MP and an awful party flack. The House will be richer for having another MP representing Peterborough, IMHO.
Truer words have never been spoken about Del Mastro.
Zombie James
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NOt exactly politics, but I guess CRTC stuff can go here: http://news.gc.ca/web/article-en.do?nid=900669
Good first step.
Good first step.
gutter_trash
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Justin did the right thing acting quickly on the two MPs booted over sexual harassment allegations. Their situations must be serious if he acted so quickly.
But this won't change much for the 2015 outcome though, you can run a cardboard box in St-Leonard for the Liberals and the cardboard box would still win.
But this won't change much for the 2015 outcome though, you can run a cardboard box in St-Leonard for the Liberals and the cardboard box would still win.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/1...attack-may-have-planned-to-behead-politician/
Bibeau took a public tour of Parliament two weeks before his attack. Interesting bit that suggests his planning beforehand, and shows that he was not a copycat attack to the Quebec attack (although I wonder if the Quebec attack influenced/affected his timing.)
Bibeau took a public tour of Parliament two weeks before his attack. Interesting bit that suggests his planning beforehand, and shows that he was not a copycat attack to the Quebec attack (although I wonder if the Quebec attack influenced/affected his timing.)
http://www.vox.com/2014/11/28/7302827/oil-prices-opec
So oil prices are down and seem to be headed even further. Anyone feel like speculating about what sorts of affects this might have on Canada, the Canadian economy and Canadian politics?
If this continues for a while (and it very well may) the oil companies currently trying to build pipelines might give up on them as they're no longer as attractive an investment.
Alberta's fortunes souring could lead to talk about "diversifying".
Canadians might start buying bigger cars, which would be a damn shame.
Perhaps the coming years might be an expedient time to introduce a carbon tax. The Liberals could sell it as being a "revenue-neutral" way to lower corporate taxes to attract new investment in manufacturing and service industries, as well as perhaps a way to lower income taxes (which I'm sure everyone would love). Meanwhile resistance would reduced because gas prices are low. But maybe I'm just over-optimistic that the political result I prefer would happen.
So oil prices are down and seem to be headed even further. Anyone feel like speculating about what sorts of affects this might have on Canada, the Canadian economy and Canadian politics?
If this continues for a while (and it very well may) the oil companies currently trying to build pipelines might give up on them as they're no longer as attractive an investment.
Alberta's fortunes souring could lead to talk about "diversifying".
Canadians might start buying bigger cars, which would be a damn shame.
Perhaps the coming years might be an expedient time to introduce a carbon tax. The Liberals could sell it as being a "revenue-neutral" way to lower corporate taxes to attract new investment in manufacturing and service industries, as well as perhaps a way to lower income taxes (which I'm sure everyone would love). Meanwhile resistance would reduced because gas prices are low. But maybe I'm just over-optimistic that the political result I prefer would happen.
It would mean that Federal surplus would be non-existent/pushed back until well (see: not happening) after the election since they're leaning heavy on that and cuts elsewhere to get that surplus.
gutter_trash
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Canada needs to diversify.
Putting all our eggs into one basket of oil sands is economic suicide.
Our dollar is a petro dollar.
Price od crude goes down, so does our dollars
Putting all our eggs into one basket of oil sands is economic suicide.
Our dollar is a petro dollar.
Price od crude goes down, so does our dollars
Likelihood 0. :c
So the NDP has put in a motion for the form of PR they plan to advocate in the next election as a platform plank: http://craigscott.ndp.ca/make-2015-the-beginning-of-the-end-of-false-majority-governments-in-canada
It's apparently exactly like the Law Reform Commission proposed in 2004: http://wilfday.blogspot.ca/2010/01/law-commission-of-canada-report.html
I personally like this proposal, although I still think larger multi-member ridings might be an easier sell. But the NDP are the first to come out with a real proposal and put it to some kind of democratic test on a federal level (though obviously their motion failed, ~100 to ~160), so I appreciate that. I wish the LPC would jump on board, because I really dislike the instant runoff plan they've talked about so far. I'd rather have the shred of compromise a proportional legislature might force than have just another way to give a party absolute power. Apparently about 1/3 of the LPC caucus voted for it, so maybe that's not too far fetched.
It's apparently exactly like the Law Reform Commission proposed in 2004: http://wilfday.blogspot.ca/2010/01/law-commission-of-canada-report.html
I personally like this proposal, although I still think larger multi-member ridings might be an easier sell. But the NDP are the first to come out with a real proposal and put it to some kind of democratic test on a federal level (though obviously their motion failed, ~100 to ~160), so I appreciate that. I wish the LPC would jump on board, because I really dislike the instant runoff plan they've talked about so far. I'd rather have the shred of compromise a proportional legislature might force than have just another way to give a party absolute power. Apparently about 1/3 of the LPC caucus voted for it, so maybe that's not too far fetched.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT0I-sdoSXU
A video explaining MMP. The main example of a country that uses MMP is Germany, and they seem to be doing pretty well.
http://www.threehundredeight.com/2014/12/the-seat-implications-of-electoral.html
308 has an article exploring the seat implications of various voting systems.
I haven't watched that video in a while and I can't right now, so if I'm wrong about details please correct me, but there are some differences to the plan in that video. Specifically the NDP plan is for open regional lists rather than a closed national list. This means voters can still reject someone on the list, and each 'region' would have its own list for each party.
Yes, assuming that the NDP follows the 2004 proposal Canada would be divided in regions of 14 MPs ( 9 local MPs and 5 regional MPs) and each region would have it's own list of candidates. If I'm reading this correctly, people's first vote would be for their local representative, and then they could use their second vote to either vote for a party "slate", or pick a specific candidate off of that parties list. I'm not sure whether voting "slate" means that you are supporting the specific list or just voting for that party, and the specific candidates sent to Parliament would be whoever got the most votes when people did vote for a specific candidate.
I suppose because of these regions it's possible we might still see a bit of deviation between the total vote share each party gets and it's seats, specifically if on party were to dominate a region or two. Another weird consequence I'm guessing will come about, is that people will only really research the candidates who are on their favourite parties list.
gutter_trash
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eh, that plummeting price of oil is sinking our Canadian petro-dollar.
nice job going mono-industrial, Harper
nice job going mono-industrial, Harper
Yeah you've got it pretty correct. Voting 'slate' means that you just want to express support for the party as a whole and you're fine with the ordering on the list the party has created. If you really like one specific person on the list or really don't like the person on top or whatever but still want to give your vote to the party then you vote for the person in the list and that person moves up the list.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=951388
I made a thread for the Ontario Retirement Pension Plan.
I made a thread for the Ontario Retirement Pension Plan.
IISANDERII
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Police can search cellphones without warrant during arrest
Reading about it, it doesn't seem too bad but it scares me when you think how it can be abused.
Reading about it, it doesn't seem too bad but it scares me when you think how it can be abused.
Can they force people to unlock it? If not then good luck.
That was my first thought too. If all they can do is ask, well so much for that. Still the idea alone is more than enough overreach for my liking.
IISANDERII
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Harper's new Supreme Court pick sought hefty tax deduction for clothes
She claimed over $200,000 in tax deductions for clothing and personal expenses between 2004 and 2006.
It's great that Harper is appointing people of high moral standards to the Supreme Court. Can't wait to see what moves she's set up to pull for him.
She claimed over $200,000 in tax deductions for clothing and personal expenses between 2004 and 2006.
It's great that Harper is appointing people of high moral standards to the Supreme Court. Can't wait to see what moves she's set up to pull for him.
pr0cs
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there is one thing this thread is good for is a laugh on a regular basis
This isn't really a national issue, but I'm a bit ticked off about the proposed "National Victims of Communism" monument that Harper wants to build in Ottawa.
He's taking prime real estate from the city and its citizens to build a pet project, an incredibly stupid pet project.
http://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/co...unism-memorial-seems-too-vague-to-be-poignant
He's taking prime real estate from the city and its citizens to build a pet project, an incredibly stupid pet project.
http://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/co...unism-memorial-seems-too-vague-to-be-poignant
equippedwithtowel
Member
Such a fucking joke. Leave it to Harper to manage to make a victims memorial crassly political.
Just be lucky he didn't choose the National Victims of Capitalism monument, they'd have to bulldoze a quarter of the city.
It does sound really pointless, though. It's like that whole big ruckus the Harper Government (ugh) raised about 1812. We weren't even a fricking country yet, we confederated in 1867! It sounds like that they heard the "we burned down the White House" joke and took it too far.
gutter_trash
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the ONLY victims memorial that should be acceptable in Canada is one for the First Nations People. Victims of European Colonialism.
The Conservatives dodging requests from the other parties do investigate missing Aboriginal Women is a clear indication that they don't give a fuck of about one of the most marginalized demographics in our country
Unless there's a photo op in the north every few years for them
Simon Belmont
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I know it's wrong, but I'm kinda smugly satisfied about this.
gutter_trash
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pr0cs
Member
yep it's awesome, considering how much money Alberta puts into the national economy.
But since your'e from Ontario, that sort of comment is expected I suppose
Simon Belmont
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And this is exactly why.
Manufacturing in Ontario will be doing just fine because of the low oil prices. For Canada it'll be a wash.
For Albertan's it'll be a well earned comeuppance.
Sure, what's left of it.
pr0cs
Member
Maybe you should watch this, and pull your head out of your ass.
http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/22-minutes-of-shame/3932901318001
I really don't know where 'come-uppance' kind of polarising rhetoric comes from. It'd be great if all areas of the country could do well and anybody who wishes any region ill is just being an ass.
Alberta really does need to find a way to diversify its economy though. I don't think massive boom/bust cycles are healthy overall and I really don't think that fossil fuels are a future proof industry.
Alberta really does need to find a way to diversify its economy though. I don't think massive boom/bust cycles are healthy overall and I really don't think that fossil fuels are a future proof industry.
pr0cs
Member
There is no question that the government still hasn't learned their lesson from the 80s in regards to trying to diversify.
Any other parts of the country 'happy' that Alberta is suffering now are short-sighted when they aren't educated enough to see that a hurting oil industry hurts the whole country, not just Alberta. Especially when the price of oil is being controlled by the cartel, not because Alberta or Canada is doing as a result of mismanagement.
I don't spend much time in this thread because it's so 'eastern' focused but when I read uneducated moronic statements like "I'm happy Alberta is suffering" I'm compelled to respond.
BigJonsson
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And now the budget will be delayed until April
It must be because they've got too big of a surplus and it'll take until April to count it all.
The budget will be an April Fools joke, right?
gutter_trash
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SunNewsNetwrok was under the ownership of future Parti Quebecois Leader; Pierre-Karl Peladeau.
Now that PKP is under a leadership race, he sold all of SunNewsNetwork assets to convicted fraudster Conrad Black
So Sun News that used to be under Quebec Separatist control (PKP) is now under Convicted Fraudster control (Conrad Black)
so that is my take on Sun News
Umm, this is a very interesting take, but Conrad Black doesn't own Sun News Network/Sun Media.
That said, I don't think anyone should be asking Ezra Levant to be making their case.
My take: The oil slump is a net negative for Canada. Industry elsewhere in the country will benefit, and that's good news for local economies. But lots of experts are bearish on the country as a whole.
But I don't think it's the end days, and people here in the West need to get over themselves and the desire to feed the oil industry machine. The oil shock is expected to send the Alberta budget to a $6-billion deficit next year. A surplus this year has swung to a predicted $500M shortfall this year.
This comes less than five years after the province was cowed out of implementing royalty changes -- changes that would have meant more revenue for the province and perhaps the growth of long-term savings in Alberta... It may also have meant a slower pace of energy development (indeed: the government backed down as companies threatened to pull investment.... grow-the-economy folks may not like that, but it's hard to deny that when the patch is in build mode, the Alberta economy gets overheated).
Maybe higher royalties aren't the answer to the long-term question, but the existing regime doesn't seem to be doing Alberta any favours when times are tough.
The Conservatives have been campaigning everyday since the last election.
Mid to late August, probably. They tend to go for the minimum 5 or so weeks, though we never know, really, since there's no maximum amount on campaign time - only money caps. Longest it's been as of recent is about 7 weeks. But maybe one day you'll just be surprised by a Liberal-attacking Conservative advert on your TV. Just kinda happens.
Gold, hahaha.
Ether_Snake
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It's true though. Renamed the government from "Government of Canada" to "Harper Government", changed the red and white colors of the Weather Office website to Blue, and probably even designed the Jets' ugly logo, among so many other things.
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