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Concord is being taken offline on September 6, purchases refunded
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I take offense to being labeled right wing. I’m old school liberal. I’m all for equal rights, gay marriage, transition if you want. You do you. I’m not gonna judge ya. I’m far from perfect.
But it’s when people try to play the victim card, or shove agendas down my throat (both sides), that’s when I get pissed. Concord was woke, stupid looking and overall just not wanted or needed.
I’m playing Hogwarts Legacy right now, and that has trans and gay characters. And that’s 100% ok. They also didn’t shove it in my face, put labels on everything. It’s like you see it, they said something once, and it’s done. They’re back to being characters whose sexuality doesn’t matter.
I want my games to be an escape from the stupidity of real life. Get off my fucking lawn!
But it’s when people try to play the victim card, or shove agendas down my throat (both sides), that’s when I get pissed. Concord was woke, stupid looking and overall just not wanted or needed.
I’m playing Hogwarts Legacy right now, and that has trans and gay characters. And that’s 100% ok. They also didn’t shove it in my face, put labels on everything. It’s like you see it, they said something once, and it’s done. They’re back to being characters whose sexuality doesn’t matter.
I want my games to be an escape from the stupidity of real life. Get off my fucking lawn!
SweetTooth
Gold Member
Thank you for this post. You worded my thoughts in a way I could never do
ahtlas7
Gold Member
This thread has more activity than the game ever did.
RickSanchez
Member
Couldn't have put it better myself. I try to stay away from left-right politics altogether (the disenfranchisement is strong with this one), but if i had to put a label on myself, i would be a liberal more than a conservative. LGBTQ+ rights, womens rights, equal opportunities for racial/ethnic minorities, etc, i am all for this. All of it. But all of this has its place in real life. Not in fictional worlds created for entertainment and escapism. Leave my entertainment media free of this.
This is exactly why games like Baldur's Gate 3 or Cyberpunk did not face any backlash from so-called "right wing chuds". The inclusivity stuff is there. But it's not overt and it's not preachy.
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Esppiral
Member
Are the Devs color blind? I mean I know why they choose those muted colour patterns but they look ugly.
Also GAAS, every single one should disappear.
Earlier today....
Poor soul
MISTER INVEIGLER
Member
I’ll try it, if it ever goes free to play.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
leonokarin
Neo Member
比冰箱里牛奶的保质期短：messenger_poop：
Zuzu
Member
Sony is going to have to be very careful with how they market and show off Fairgames in the future because Concord has effectively poisoned the well when it comes to Sony GAAS games. When Fairgames gets its first gameplay showing I think a lot of people will immediately think back to Concord and wonder whether Fairgames will be the next Concord. Fairgames’ reveal trailer was already bad imo, but now that it’s coming after this disaster, it’s going to be even harder for it to be successful. Haven studios better have a game that has top-tier calibre gameplay. Anything less and it may suffer a similar fate.
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TrippleA345
Member
One of the best things that ever happened. The way Concord flopped, but not just a little bit, but a megaton disaster, is very astonishing.
It's a big fat middle finger to the oligarchs who are pushing this ideology bullshit.
I personally don't believe in coincidences, that the game goes offline on the same day Astrobot will be released was deliberately chosen.
It's a big fat middle finger to the oligarchs who are pushing this ideology bullshit.
I personally don't believe in coincidences, that the game goes offline on the same day Astrobot will be released was deliberately chosen.
pasterpl
Member
That was quick. Is this now officially the biggest flop in the history of video games? I think destruction all starts survived more, but probably cost fraction of concord. They wanted another Helldivers 2 and ended up with total flop. It happens, but this speed of action means that literally no one played this game.
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To give you a perspective of how colossal is this failure.
Development budget - $150 million
Marketing budget - $50 million
Development time - 8 years
Total sales - zero units sold
Total gross minus budgets - negative $200 million
On the other hand, Black Myth Wukong is doing wonder.
Development budget - $50 million
Marketing budget - $5-10 million
Development time - 4 years
Total sales - 10 million units in 3 days
Total gross minus budgets - $400 million
Development budget - $150 million
Marketing budget - $50 million
Development time - 8 years
Total sales - zero units sold
Total gross minus budgets - negative $200 million
On the other hand, Black Myth Wukong is doing wonder.
Development budget - $50 million
Marketing budget - $5-10 million
Development time - 4 years
Total sales - 10 million units in 3 days
Total gross minus budgets - $400 million
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
No marketing push?
It's been everywhere. Youtube. Twitch.
Ffs James. Sony, with no history for this game have even worked with amazon to do an entire episode from the new secret level series.
This game has been put up alongside games like armoured core and more. Warhammer 40k etc.
Blur studios is making it and that's like over a million dollars a minute.
No marketing? You're delusional bro. Wake up.
newtypepilot
Member
N30RYU
Member
PonyStation4
Member
Looks like Firewalk deleted their maintenance tweet
StueyDuck
Member
I call shenanigans on those numbers. Black Myth is from a studio that made mostly mobile games in China for tencent.
The game also has extremely high production cinematics, mocap, voice acting (multiple languages) etc. On top of marketing which consisted of high quality CG trailers, Nvidia sponsorship etc.
Black Myth would of cost at least 100 mil as well. and china would of pumped big dollah into marketing to the west.
Von Hugh
Gold Member
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
The only sensible thing you have said in this entire thread!
A studio and publisher could only dream of the success that helldivers 2 saw. Even that is not enough to float 10 studios and make a profit.
When ever single person on a forum is saying it's the biggest flop in gaming history and we have literally not seen anything like this, then there's you screaming that we are all dillusional....I really don't know what to say apart from, you seem like the perfect employee to work for the professor at firewalk studios.
Randall365
Member
A bottle of milk would last longer than this game.
Dr Cowley
Neo Member
Kill strain! ( took ages for me to remember the name )
Kill strain lasted about a year.
I dont think there was any PvP games from the XBLA era that died this quick.
There is a game I bought and played for at least 2 month but it had a really dumb name that I've forgotten but I bet it outsold Concord.
'Hyper tactical kill' team or something equally dumb
Kill strain lasted about a year.
I dont think there was any PvP games from the XBLA era that died this quick.
There is a game I bought and played for at least 2 month but it had a really dumb name that I've forgotten but I bet it outsold Concord.
'Hyper tactical kill' team or something equally dumb
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The interesting is that Sony, a Japanese company, shutdown their Japan Studio to chase around Western studios; buying Blue Point, Haven, Firewalks after shutting down Japan Studio.
And yet this week, Sony have to shutdown Concord after an embarrassment of biblical proportion, but their other game, AstroBot by Team Asobi, will likely be a massive hit (many of Team Asobis members are from Japan Studio)
You should never forget where you came from
And yet this week, Sony have to shutdown Concord after an embarrassment of biblical proportion, but their other game, AstroBot by Team Asobi, will likely be a massive hit (many of Team Asobis members are from Japan Studio)
You should never forget where you came from
The Fartist
Gold Member
I was at the beach all day, just learning about this, and holy shit, what an epic fail. Crazy.
Cyberpunkd
Member
I will play devils advocate and say there are people that play videogames for escapism, but also those that want games to mirror real life. Oppressed /marginalised communities cannot do nothing in real life but in the fantasy world they can stand up to their oppressors and win.
The problem is that games are a business and said group is not large enough to make games profitable, while at the same time moral pandering alienates way more “mainstream” gamers. I think companies are aware of that, but for some reason give up to pressure, especially considering maintaining status quo is easy - you just don’t virtue signal.
What is happening is videogame companies want to have the cake and eat it too - virtue signal to sell games to the alphabet crowd, and at the same time sell to everybody else. It looks like they are finding right now this is impossible, you need to pick one.
That’s why I hold Kottick in high regard - he never allowed devs to virtue signal in Activision games, he knew very well it doesn’t make sense from a business perspective.
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Nydius
Member
Johnny Concrete
Member
Ok, so, back to the drawing board. Here's what to do next:
You can keep all the game logic and stuff. Even the level layouts and most of the guns and what not. But:
You can also tie it to any PlayStation published game, like in the weeks surrounding the Death Stranding 2 launch you'll get the 'Beached Event' where players can come back from death and you have to dodge invisible ghost enemies.
Almost free advertisement for both games!
You can keep all the game logic and stuff. Even the level layouts and most of the guns and what not. But:
- Make it free-to-play (obviously)
- Introduce events/battlepasses
- Create a progression system where players can unlock interesting stuff
- Delete some of the game modes, if not all, keep it focused and don't spread your playerbase
- Delete all characters except for the big robot (he'll be the Concord mascot)
- Create a roster of Playstation-branded characters:
- Kratos
- Nathan Drake
- Bloodborne Hunter
- Gran Turismo driver
- Jak
- Some Destiny character
- Joel & Ellie
- Ape Escape monkey
- Aloy
- Ratchet
- Killzone badguy
- Dude from Ghost of Tsushima
- Higgs from Death Stranding
- Vip Ribbon bunny
- Spider-Man / Venom
- ETCETERA
- Rename the game
- Tie it to other Playstation games, like:
- Some battlepass unlocks also unlock things in certain Playstation games (ie: new Aloy outfit in the game, but also in Horizon Forbidden West)
- Getting 100 headshots on a monday with Gran Turismo Driver unlocks a Ford Mustang in GT7
- Maybe the other way around as well: getting a platinum trophy in God Of War Ragnarok unlocks a new weapon for Kratos in this new game)
- The narrative should be something like we're traveling the PlayStation Universe. Hence the space theme.
- The lower you get on health, you'll visually drop a generation. So when you're almost dead you are playing at PlayStation 1 graphics, including those wobbly vertices and tank controls (nah, j/k)
You can also tie it to any PlayStation published game, like in the weeks surrounding the Death Stranding 2 launch you'll get the 'Beached Event' where players can come back from death and you have to dodge invisible ghost enemies.
Almost free advertisement for both games!
PeteBull
Gold Member
when u make shit f2p no1 wanna touch it with a stick anyways(maybe few weirdos will but thats it;p)
Power Pro
Member
Part of what I hate about these fucking loonies, is that I'm not right wing. Far from it, but they act like anyone who doesn't align with their narrow perspective is automatically right wing. They've warped the idea of progressive sooo fucking much, that they don't see that they've become what they claim to hate. God I hate these fucking people.Seeing similar talking points as Zhuge from Schierer and others (below), must’ve been told what the coordinated message is from their superiors… they just can’t stand the anti-DEI crowd taking the W
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
Most games i buy these days are small “indie” games..
Best gameplay.
Go play balatro
Go play loop hero
Go play dave the diver
Go play hades 2
Go play megaloot
Go play corekeeper
Go play the new factorio patch.
Stop playing tripple A gaas shit
Stop buying ubishit games
Stop paying for pointless MTX
Diablo 4 is a fucking joke
Best gameplay.
Go play balatro
Go play loop hero
Go play dave the diver
Go play hades 2
Go play megaloot
Go play corekeeper
Go play the new factorio patch.
Stop playing tripple A gaas shit
Stop buying ubishit games
Stop paying for pointless MTX
Diablo 4 is a fucking joke
ricardo_sousa11
Member
They will 100% use the engine and assets for something "new".
PeteBull
Gold Member
They both fuckin flopped super hard bro, no point saying which one flopped more, its like u would argue which of the 1/10 cavetrolls deserves "miss" title less in beauty peagant.
PeteBull
Gold Member
They would have to throw away that terrible character sheet, and put in all best characters from all the precious sony ip's, change title too, we talking kratos, astrobot, ellie, joel, nathan drake etc
Thats few years of work so another 100m usd invested, maybe 200m even, doubt they will do it.
And even then market for 5vs5 arena shooters is super saturated so game wouldnt be major hit, but maybe it wouldnt flop but break even?
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DelireMan7
Member
Heard the name and never really checked it. I just watched a review and it's another Overwatch clone.
Why dev think they can just copy a very popular game and think it will magically be a success ?
From what I've seen Concord doesn't have any "killer" feature or something that can differentiate it in this oversaturated market.
Don't they do market study ? How could they think "It will be a success for sure" ? You're just copying many very popular games and add nothing to the genre.
At least change the artstyle to make it look different...
Why dev think they can just copy a very popular game and think it will magically be a success ?
From what I've seen Concord doesn't have any "killer" feature or something that can differentiate it in this oversaturated market.
Don't they do market study ? How could they think "It will be a success for sure" ? You're just copying many very popular games and add nothing to the genre.
At least change the artstyle to make it look different...
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PeteBull
Gold Member
Its obvious what he means, they uglyfy female characters, including black female characters, we want them sexy, simply
Cyberpunkd
Member
Cyberpunkd
Member
All good points, see you in 2-3 years of extra investment while you already spend at least 5 on this game.
Ogbert
Gold Member
Every time I see ‘Official Staff Communication’ I chuckle.Seeing similar talking points as Zhuge from Schierer and others (below), must’ve been told what the coordinated message is from their superiors… they just can’t stand the anti-DEI crowd taking the W
They’re such spectacular cunts.
Eat a dick Commies.
RagnarokIV
Battlebus imprisoning me \m/ >.< \m/
Johnny Concrete
Member
It's either that or throw it all away, because just making this free-to-play and call it a day is not going to make them any profit.All good points, see you in 2-3 years of extra investment while you already spend at least 5 on this game.
pasterpl
Member
Hades 2 is defo not an indie, and is that bull crap about Diablo? Other things you got right.
pasterpl
Member
Just take it behind the barn….and you know what to do. Sony actually did it already.
They need to protect their fragile egos and the hive mind. They can't stand to be wrong. I think communists is the best word to describe the order of things. Head in the sand etc etc. I feel for anyone who thinks they need some sort of street credit being on their, developers and journalists included.