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Dating Age |OT$6| Just ask her out already

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Jokab

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Because women have a high chance of being attacked and/or other bad things if they're direct about it. So the safe thing you have to do as a woman is move things to a distance and reject.

It also doesn't help that some overly aggressive peeps will dial the phone number they're given right then and there.

Anyway to get into dating you have to eat mountains of rejections, you'll never get anywhere if you take any one of them in particular deeply personal.

It's actually mind-boggling how many times we have to explain this in this very thread.
 

KazenY2J

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So this girl just blocked me, no reason. I just said hey, thats all. I wish she would of said no or some other excuse, seriously. Why make me follow her Instagram to just end up blocking me.

I try to be as genuine as I can be, but only seem to have bad luck.

I have the worst luck.
I was sexting once with a girl I met on OKC and she blocked me the next day, she was even willing to meet up too, I was just like :|
 
How am I supposed to have a conversation with someone through Instagram ?

I know this has been addressed but . . . You arent suppose to have a convo with someone you wanna date through Instagram. If they dont give you the number you go "oh cool, have a nice day" and move on. No one avoids giving out a number if they actually like you. Especially now that phones have this awesome feature called block.
 
I purposely ask for IG sometimes because its my main social media source ( i am an artist). Its less invasive but if you ask for a number and they give you an IG account. Its a no go.

I have made 2 dates from IG happen, so its not impossible, but its hard. My stylist met her fiance on IG though.
 
I purposely ask for IG sometimes because its my main social media source ( i am an artist). Its less invasive but if you ask for a number and they give you an IG account. Its a no go.

I have made 2 dates from IG happen, so its not impossible, but its hard. My stylist met her fiance on IG though.

Well if you ask for IG and they give you IG you are getting what you want. If you ask for a number and they propose Instagram you aren't. That's really all I'm saying. No one who actually likes you goes "how bout instagram instead" when you ask for a number.
 

daffy

Banned
So my 30 year old virgin pal is about to pay $50 for a kama sutra app thinking its going to get him laid by word of mouth somehow. Advice or should i just let him do it? I personally think its a waste but he's damn near out of options and he's lashing out at me for saying not to
 
So my 30 year old virgin pal is about to pay $50 for a kama sutra app thinking its going to get him laid by word of mouth somehow. Advice or should i just let him do it? I personally think its a waste but he's damn near out of options and he's lashing out at me for saying not to

Let him do it.
 
So my 30 year old virgin pal is about to pay $50 for a kama sutra app thinking its going to get him laid by word of mouth somehow. Advice or should i just let him do it? I personally think its a waste but he's damn near out of options and he's lashing out at me for saying not to

In your opinion is this guy a lost cause? like what do you think he does wrong that has kept him a virgin.
 
Okay, so my parents wanted me to meet this girl for marriage (Indian family, they want me to get married so bad). She's a family friend's granddaughter, newly arrived from India.

Now, I get cultural traditions, and if I meet the right girl, I don't mind making that decision quickly. But like here's the thing... I am not attracted to this girl at all. I realize I'm being superficial as fuck, but I just, I got nothing. And I feel bad, but I basically said no cause like I said, I'm not attracted to her at all, and we don't have a ton in common besides we both like horror films.

Anyways, my parents and granddad are seriously disappointed in me cause she said yes to marriage lol, and I said no, and they probably think I'm a superficial jerk right now. I'm not asking for advice or anything, just venting. I feel bad disappointing them, but I just can't say yes to someone (as nice as she is), that I'm just not attracted to. And it's not like I'm some Adonis or something, but I dunno, it's frustrating and weird.

Messofanego probably knows what I'm talking about.
 
I understand the existence of culture, and I don't mean to disrespect either you or your parents, or even anyone who is a part of it. But man is it frustrating to read or hear stories like yours. To have your partner be picked out for you, and be expected to like them and have that important decision made for you is just shitty. Marriage is supposed to be one of the most important decisions in your life, and you don't even get to decide who you will be partnering up with.
 

daffy

Banned
In your opinion is this guy a lost cause? like what do you think he does wrong that has kept him a virgin.
He's just really shy and possibly insecure about his age relative to his sexual inexperience.. Ultimately though he also has strict standards for women and refuses to see himself in a healthier light. An app that shows you pleasure points isn't going to change that.
 
I understand the existence of culture, and I don't mean to disrespect either you or your parents, or even anyone who is a part of it. But man is it frustrating to read or hear stories like yours. To have your partner be picked out for you, and be expected to like them and have that important decision made for you is just shitty. Marriage is supposed to be one of the most important decisions in your life, and you don't even get to decide who you will be partnering up with.

Oh, I can decide. It varies family to family. They're just mad that I didn't say yes because they don't get my reasons for saying no. It's like a blind date that involves meeting the family at the same time.

So I've been through this rigmarole a bunch of times. Some families are cool with the girl and guy dating a bit before deciding. Some prefer they just talk on the phone a while. I've been in situations where the family wanted a yes or no answer after a twenty minute talk (Jesus Christ that one was brutal).

I've told my parents I'd prefer to date and get to know someone before I marry them, and while they're fine with that, they don't get why I don't like the ones they pick out. They're more conservative than I am obvs.

In this case, I'm just not attracted to her, so I don't want to pursue it further. My parents would want an answer after a few weeks, and I'm not gonna drag it out.

Find me a cool girl that I have great chemistry with and I'll probably go for it. I made a profile on Shaadi.com (LOL) to make my mom happy and get her off my back.
 

Ogodei

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I purposely ask for IG sometimes because its my main social media source ( i am an artist). Its less invasive but if you ask for a number and they give you an IG account. Its a no go.

I have made 2 dates from IG happen, so its not impossible, but its hard. My stylist met her fiance on IG though.

I have no instagram and barely understand what instagram does, so it's much easier for me to interpret that signal :p

Muddled ask got a muddled response, so there's that, not much eagerness there, but the possibility remains.

Works for me, i can follow up later and ask how the protests went for her while pursuing other ladies.
 

Salamando

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He's just really shy and possibly insecure about his age relative to his sexual inexperience.. Ultimately though he also has strict standards for women and refuses to see himself in a healthier light. An app that shows you pleasure points isn't going to change that.

Agreed.

Sounds like the dude wants a quick fix instead of actual fixes. You can't help people who don't want the help. That $50 would be better spent on 2 months at the gym, a good haircut and a nice shirt, a session with a therapist...
 
Oh, I can decide. It varies family to family. They're just mad that I didn't say yes because they don't get my reasons for saying no. It's like a blind date that involves meeting the family at the same time.

So I've been through this rigmarole a bunch of times. Some families are cool with the girl and guy dating a bit before deciding. Some prefer they just talk on the phone a while. I've been in situations where the family wanted a yes or no answer after a twenty minute talk (Jesus Christ that one was brutal).

I've told my parents I'd prefer to date and get to know someone before I marry them, and while they're fine with that, they don't get why I don't like the ones they pick out. They're more conservative than I am obvs.

In this case, I'm just not attracted to her, so I don't want to pursue it further. My parents would want an answer after a few weeks, and I'm not gonna drag it out.

Find me a cool girl that I have great chemistry with and I'll probably go for it. I made a profile on Shaadi.com (LOL) to make my mom happy and get her off my back.
I see! I've only been exposed to the more extreme side of things then, where yeah, its a yes or no answer after the families get together and they talk it out without even giving the guy or gal the chance to get to know each other properly.

At any rate, I hope that everything works on your side
 
Any disappointment they feel will pass. I do question the superficial comment, having a few close Muslim/Indian friends, I've noticed that when they've turned down an arranged marriage opportunity, the disappointment is actually about the community and how they'll respond rather than them being upset the marriage isn't happening.

Weird shit. Count yourself lucky you're a guy, women have it tough in S.E communities. I'm sure you know that though. Lots of 'expiration' talk goes on when women hit 27...
 
Any disappointment they feel will pass. I do question the superficial comment, having a few close Muslim/Indian friends, I've noticed that when they've turned down an arranged marriage opportunity, the disappointment is actually about the community and how they'll respond rather than them being upset the marriage isn't happening.

Weird shit. Count yourself lucky you're a guy, women have it tough in S.E communities. I'm sure you know that though. Lots of 'expiration' talk goes on when women hit 27...

The girl is 27 :/
 

Leeness

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He's just really shy and possibly insecure about his age relative to his sexual inexperience.. Ultimately though he also has strict standards for women and refuses to see himself in a healthier light. An app that shows you pleasure points isn't going to change that.

Is it OMGyes?
 
The girl is 27 :/

Don't feel guilty, you can't change cultural issues like that nonsense nor should you let them dictate your actions. I still don't know why it starts at 27, women can and regularly do have healthy babies into their thirties. I get it, the biological clock, etc but still...

Anyway, you have to think about yourself and your future happiness, that's the only thing that matters.

You get one shot my dude.
 

Makonero

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Agreed.

Sounds like the dude wants a quick fix instead of actual fixes. You can't help people who don't want the help. That $50 would be better spent on 2 months at the gym, a good haircut and a nice shirt, a session with a therapist...

where the hell are you getting all this for $50?!
 

daffy

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Is it OMGyes?
It is!! I actually think its a good app but for people that are already having sex. Not someone who thinks its going to help them get laid.

Agreed.

Sounds like the dude wants a quick fix instead of actual fixes. You can't help people who don't want the help. That $50 would be better spent on 2 months at the gym, a good haircut and a nice shirt, a session with a therapist...
Honestly i just want him to get laid and experience it before he does something stupid. You might judge me but i tried to help him find an escort and he rejected it on the basis that "he's capable of more than that" but.. eh no you really aren't apparently.
 
It is!! I actually think its a good app but for people that are already having sex. Not someone who thinks its going to help them get laid.


Honestly i just want him to get laid and experience it before he does something stupid. You might judge me but i tried to help him find an escort and he rejected it on the basis that "he's capable of more than that" but.. eh no you really aren't apparently.

Hire a hooker to pretend to be a random girl in a bar to hit on him and have a one night stand with him.

Edit: oh you did ahahaha

You need to get a hooker to pretend not to be one.
 

Leeness

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It is!! I actually think its a good app but for people that are already having sex. Not someone who thinks its going to help them get laid.

It's actually more for women... It's to help them figure out their bodies more (apparently).

So probably not going to get him laid lol.
 

Salamando

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Honestly i just want him to get laid and experience it before he does something stupid. You might judge me but i tried to help him find an escort and he rejected it on the basis that "he's capable of more than that" but.. eh no you really aren't apparently.
Not the first time I heard that plan in this thread, though it was just an asian massage parlor and some hand-stuff.
i've seen this in big bang theory
And in The Cable Guy
 

Peltz

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Okay, so my parents wanted me to meet this girl for marriage (Indian family, they want me to get married so bad). She's a family friend's granddaughter, newly arrived from India.

Now, I get cultural traditions, and if I meet the right girl, I don't mind making that decision quickly. But like here's the thing... I am not attracted to this girl at all. I realize I'm being superficial as fuck, but I just, I got nothing. And I feel bad, but I basically said no cause like I said, I'm not attracted to her at all, and we don't have a ton in common besides we both like horror films.

Anyways, my parents and granddad are seriously disappointed in me cause she said yes to marriage lol, and I said no, and they probably think I'm a superficial jerk right now. I'm not asking for advice or anything, just venting. I feel bad disappointing them, but I just can't say yes to someone (as nice as she is), that I'm just not attracted to. And it's not like I'm some Adonis or something, but I dunno, it's frustrating and weird.

Messofanego probably knows what I'm talking about.

Wow... And I thought my cultural traditions/parents were a nightmare. It's nothing compared to that.

Modern arranged marriage is something I'll never understand.
 

ionitron

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I can't believe I'm asking this but I'm going for it, because I don't know who I'm going to talk about it with nor do I really want to have this discussion face-to-face with someone I know. I would assume that it belongs in this topic because I surely don't want to make a thread for it.

In any case, I've been dating a guy for a long time now (years+) and there's one thing he never wants to talk about, and its his fetishes. Is this normal? I ask him why not, and he says "Well, I feel like you wouldn't get it since you don't have one." and "It's totally fictional desire, not real."

What the hell? I dunno. What say you, gaf? Is it normal to not tell your partner about this? Yes, we're sexually active, so it kinda frustrates me more than anything but I don't have a reference for whether or not it's normal and I'm willing to let it go, but it just kinda makes me feel meh about not being able to do anything about it and also him hiding information about this, especially since he's told me that he's comfortable talking to his other friends about it but not me....?
 
I can't believe I'm asking this but I'm going for it, because I don't know who I'm going to talk about it with nor do I really want to have this discussion face-to-face with someone I know. I would assume that it belongs in this topic because I surely don't want to make a thread for it.

In any case, I've been dating a guy for a long time now (years+) and there's one thing he never wants to talk about, and its his fetishes. Is this normal? I ask him why not, and he says "Well, I feel like you wouldn't get it since you don't have one." and "It's totally fictional desire, not real."

What the hell? I dunno. What say you, gaf? Is it normal to not tell your partner about this? Yes, we're sexually active, so it kinda frustrates me more than anything but I don't have a reference for whether or not it's normal and I'm willing to let it go, but it just kinda makes me feel meh about not being able to do anything about it and also him hiding information about this, especially since he's told me that he's comfortable talking to his other friends about it but not me....?

Maybe an ex partner of his fetish shamed him and now he doesn't feel comfortable telling anyone unless they have a fetish of their own so they can't shame him.

Totally fictional desire is weird though. Do you know if those friends share his fetish?
 

Salamando

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I can't believe I'm asking this but I'm going for it, because I don't know who I'm going to talk about it with nor do I really want to have this discussion face-to-face with someone I know. I would assume that it belongs in this topic because I surely don't want to make a thread for it.

In any case, I've been dating a guy for a long time now (years+) and there's one thing he never wants to talk about, and its his fetishes. Is this normal? I ask him why not, and he says "Well, I feel like you wouldn't get it since you don't have one." and "It's totally fictional desire, not real."

What the hell? I dunno. What say you, gaf? Is it normal to not tell your partner about this? Yes, we're sexually active, so it kinda frustrates me more than anything but I don't have a reference for whether or not it's normal and I'm willing to let it go, but it just kinda makes me feel meh about not being able to do anything about it and also him hiding information about this, especially since he's told me that he's comfortable talking to his other friends about it but not me....?

Technically, the proper term is Kink. Fetish more generally refers to sexual gratification linked to objects, body parts, clothing, etc.

Willing to talk to his friends about it, and not you, is just bizarre. Depending on the desire, you'd be the one to help him realize it.

What bugs you the most about this situation?
 

daffy

Banned
Hire a hooker to pretend to be a random girl in a bar to hit on him and have a one night stand with him.

You need to get a hooker to pretend not to be one.
Is this an actual thing? Its honestly the best shot he has if so.

edit: yeah Salamando, i thought about the massage parlor route but there's no way he'll go near it haha

It's actually more for women... It's to help them figure out their bodies more (apparently).

So probably not going to get him laid lol.
He thinks that he'll learn all this stuff and talk with women about it, and they will naturally see his sexual worth. He needs to get the basics down first lol
 

ionitron

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Maybe an ex partner of his fetish shamed him and now he doesn't feel comfortable telling anyone unless they have a fetish of their own so they can't shame him.

Totally fictional desire is weird though. Do you know if those friends share his fetish?

I'm actually his first partner, so I don't know. Now that I think about it, one time he said that it just makes him feel really dirty compared to me since I don't have one. I don't know if his friends share the fetish or kink or whatever it may be.

Technically, the proper term is Kink. Fetish more generally refers to sexual gratification linked to objects, body parts, clothing, etc.

Willing to talk to his friends about it, and not you, is just bizarre. Depending on the desire, you'd be the one to help him realize it.

What bugs you the most about this situation?

Well, the fact that he doesn't want to tell me knowing that it's something that he says he can relate to with his friends, despite me being his actual partner, I feel like I kind of have the right to know? Maybe I don't, I don't know. But it bothers me because supposedly other people know. Also, the fact that he's kind of hiding this information from me to begin with just feel strange, considering he knows every detail about me but yet does not feel comfortable about this.

Also, I'll just quote the actual skype convo: "They're totally unconnected to real life though, entirely fictional" which sounds kinda BS to me, because I know that's not true, unless his particular fetish/kink is, in which case should bother me less knowing that...? I don't know.
 

Leeness

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He thinks that he'll learn all this stuff and talk with women about it, and they will naturally see his sexual worth. He needs to get the basics down first lol

Yeah...I don't think so. Lol. That site is primarily for women, and if women want to, to share with their partners.

Bad idea.
 
Is this an actual thing? Its honestly the best shot he has if so.

edit: yeah Salamando, i thought about the massage parlor route but there's no way he'll go near it haha

What, too good for a happy ending? He thinks highly of himself indeed.

And yes, you can actually make this a thing. You would definitely have to clarify to the woman of the night what you are trying to do, and you'll have to pay well above market rate.

And you need to make a plan of attack, and find a reputable contractor.
 

gaiages

Banned
So my 30 year old virgin pal is about to pay $50 for a kama sutra app thinking its going to get him laid by word of mouth somehow. Advice or should i just let him do it? I personally think its a waste but he's damn near out of options and he's lashing out at me for saying not to

I mean, if he already got all pissy when you said it was a bad idea... well, sometimes people have to make mistakes on their own. I'm sure most of us have wasted more than $50 in the past on bullshit anyway.

Though I don't see how that app would help him get laid.

At this point he'd be better off ponying up a little more money and hiring a prostitute.

(I think I missed a bunch of replies but I'm too sick/lazy to look them up)
 
I'm just curious about the logic that somehow a Kama Sutra app will help get him laid.

Like... just try Tinder or 'Casual Encounters' on Craigslist if you're that desperate, but you have zero confidence/"game" with random women in bars, or just... hire a hooker.
 

Leeness

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I'm just curious about the logic that somehow a Kama Sutra app will help get him laid.

Like... just try Tinder or 'Casual Encounters' on Craigslist if you're that desperate, but you have zero confidence/"game" with random women in bars, or just... hire a hooker.

It's not really a karma sutra app. Look up OMGyes--it's more of a "be unafraid of sexuality, ladies" kind of thing.
 

Salamando

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Well, the fact that he doesn't want to tell me knowing that it's something that he says he can relate to with his friends, despite me being his actual partner, I feel like I kind of have the right to know? Maybe I don't, I don't know. But it bothers me because supposedly other people know. Also, the fact that he's kind of hiding this information from me to begin with just feel strange, considering he knows every detail about me but yet does not feel comfortable about this.

Also, I'll just quote the actual skype convo: "They're totally unconnected to real life though, entirely fictional" which sounds kinda BS to me, because I know that's not true, unless his particular fetish/kink is, in which case should bother me less knowing that...? I don't know.

There are some kinks that could only exist in fiction. A common enough one is the desire to one day wake up as the opposite gender and experience sex from another way. TLC's has enough programs that showcase the weirdness in people's libidos - one guy was really into ferris wheels. Not to downplay the excuse, because it is an excuse, but there could be merit to it.

Have you let him know how much it hurts you that his friends know and he refuses to tell you?
 
It's not really a karma sutra app. Look up OMGyes--it's more of a "be unafraid of sexuality, ladies" kind of thing.

So I just checked it out.

He thinks this is gonna get him laid?

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Daffy, your friend is dumb. Sorry to say, but damn, you need to shake him back to reality. Is there something specific that's holding him back? Does he have severe anxiety or something?
 
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