BreezyLimbo
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The traveller is actually one of ten and at the end of this year we have to destroy our traveller to unlock the main travellers true power
And that traveller turns out to be evil
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The traveller is actually one of ten and at the end of this year we have to destroy our traveller to unlock the main travellers true power
And that traveller turns out to be evil
MrAnderson
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My money is on them scrapping that entire plot line. The traveler will just be no more and they will move on to something else. I wouldn't put it past them to be lazy enough to make a small 1-2 minute cutscene showing him blowing up or something in destiny 2 just to write it off...just like the queen and her brother!
Word, man. Agreed.
Rant incoming
I just mean like Hawkian has done noobie raids for ever now - in his own time. No publicity. Not a famous streamer cursing and acting ridiculous and therefore popular. He's doing the real thing. Teaching people how to raid. People that don't have enough friends to raid with. People scared to do it. Drizzay the same including Skolas, raids, etc. I would hope that kind of freaking amazing awesomeness could get recognized. Yeah the Dattos and Goths get "attention" but only because of their subscriber totals. Hawk and Drizz do God's work.
Part of me thinks you're right but part hopes they have more tricks up their sleeves.
Strangelove77
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"The Traveller died on the way back to his home planet."
figadapaura
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I meant the little in-game icon. It shows a blue ghost when the actual ghost is green.
Twilight Gap
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the traveler is a pawn
there are many travelers
our traveler disobeyed its masters by protecting humanity instead of leaving like its supposed to
traveler's boss is going to destroy it, but not before it investigates humans to see if we can also be pawns
there are many travelers
our traveler disobeyed its masters by protecting humanity instead of leaving like its supposed to
traveler's boss is going to destroy it, but not before it investigates humans to see if we can also be pawns
BreezyLimbo
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That's crazy talk, next you're going to tell me that the Taken Ghost icon used to be just grey.
Twilight Gap
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the key to playing on memento is to avoid the sniper lane at all costs. it's completely isolated from the rest of the map so why bother? it's much easier to control the balcony portions and is impossible to flush people camping that area unless you push with supers.
figadapaura
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It's not the disc that matters. You need to have a version of TTK linked to that account and since it's only digital, they know.
igordennis
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And Twilight Gap for the awesome posts
The crucible lead designer should have your post history as his home page on his pc 🤔
brianjones
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bungie really hit rock bottom with sector 619 and memento
and I thought thieves den was bad
igordennis
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There's nowhere to go but up from here (i hope).
MandrakeUK
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Thanks for run guys, Nami, Afri and all.
Electric walls fo lifeeee.
Electric walls fo lifeeee.
And Twilight Gap for the awesome posts
The crucible lead designer should have your post history as his home page on his pc 🤔
Luke watches him stream. I'm sure they know who he is.
Also that mom was watching avengers
Now Dan and Dawn are aware of Mr. TLW
as well. We're working on Bungie one cool person at a time. Thumbs up.gif
Twilight Gap
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Ya'll missed when I attempted to fix Sector a few months ago. Lemme see if i can dig up the post.
Okay, no more talking about it. Decided to try my hand at fixing Sector 618. Here's a quick blueprint I just threw together.
It might be a little confusing so I'll walk through it and my thought process.
First thing's first, let me talk about Sector 618 and what I feel are the problems with this map. The biggest flaw that Sector 618 has is clutter. This map is overdesigned visually and geometrically which creates a map that is both distracting to the player and discombobulated to move around.
However, underneath that mess is an attempt at a fairly simple bridge style map. The concept is honestly really cool, but Bungie was unable to capitalize on it. This is by no means an official layout, but rather an attempt at resolving its issues by redesigning the map on a fundamental level.
I should mention that I made the map inverse symmetrical, which Sector 618 is not; it is a pseudo mirror symmetric map. What I would do differently from this blueprint is add more asymmetric geometry so that the B capture zone is not literally sitting on a platform in the middle of the map. That would be bad for gameplay obviously.
FIGURE 1
- Alpha and Bravo spawn are self explanitory. In this blueprint, they spawn on opposite corners of the map.
- Both teams move to opposite sides to grab control of A or C. These zones are equidistant from both teams, meaning there is no clear side that one team must control.
- B is located in the center of the map. Again, I do not think putting it literally on a platform is a good idea, because then Titans will just go there and throw bubbles on top of it. What I like about that location however is that it would requiree control of several parts of the map to contest. When the blueprint is more fleshed out, that central platform will be tethered more to a side of the map. This is also where I would put the Spark spawn in Rift.
- Heavy Ammo is placed in a new piece of geometry - a tunnel that passes beneath the hallway.
Now let me explain my thought process behind the design of these areas.
FIGURE 2
- 1.) This high corner ramps up towards the back of the map, giving you a high position. From here, you can contest the heavy ammo crate on your side of the map and even the middle of the map itself.
- 2.) This is a path that ramps down to the aforementioned tunnel where heavy ammo spawns. This creates a safe spawn zone and also gives you a route that cuts into the center of the map.
- 3.) This corner of the map is not elevated like the first one, but it has more cover for the players. You can jump from this corner to the ramp above through the back.
- 4.) This is the lobby where each team spawns. I wanted it to be flat and open with a lot of room to dance. There will be some crates to jump on though, but they'll all be against the walls to avoid creating "ring-around-the-rosey" gameplay.
- 5.) There is another lobby across the hallway which is slightly more closed in.
note: This hallway may or may not have slight changes in elevation where necessary- 6.) This is also a new path like the tunnel. It is a route that cuts from the "base" sides of the map into the center. The way I drew it now has it to where you need to either exit the lobby and ramp up to it from the side, or jump up to it. This makes it easy to use for offense, but hard to use for defense. If I wanted to make it more defense oriented, I would switch it so that you ramp onto the platform from the inside hallway, and have to jump onto it from the outside (much like you do currently). It's also worth noting that this path lets you jump to the center platform.
- 7.) This is another raised platform at the back of the map. It is on the same elevation as the first corner and the central platform, which lets players contest it at range. However, it is small with no cover or railings, meaning it's a risky position to hold.
- 8.) This area is part of the bridge as we currently know it. However, I've simplified the cover down to just one large crate. It is not as high as the aforementioned platforms, but it still gives you some height to control the bridge and contest other areas of the map.
- 9.) As I mentioned in Figure 1, this is a small ledge that leads to the Heavy Ammo tunnel.
- 10.) And last of all is the center platform, which is currently used for nothing more than traversal in Sector 618. I wanted to give it more of an important role. I kept it simple in this blueprint, but now that I'm recognizing the B problem I think it should have several layers so that it isn't a one dimensional piece of geometry. Bungie probably felt otherwise.
Ultimately, where my philosophy differs from theirs is that I want to focus combat more on the center of the map and less on the hallways and corners. This way, players use the hallways more intelligently and make more conscious decisions when maneuvering around the map. I also want to introduce more height variation and risky jumps while simultaneously cutting down on the clutter so that those decisions aren't force fed to the player. This will create a map with a unique gameplay dynamic not currently seen in the game.
Thoughts are appreciated.
Basically, Sector would be a cool map if there was more vertical gameplay and overlapping paths. It's too flat and too noisy right now.
I could do the same for Memento, but all I'd really change on that map are the staircases, and then I'd blow out the top portion of the wall in front of the heavy ammo spawns to open up that chokepoint.
Thieves' Den is a lost cause. At most you can replicate the open side of the map in place of the fallen walker side and then triple the size of the tunnel areas by B.
Pandora012
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Np, and I don't need it.
TheAquaticApe
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I'm here now. Do we have a third? Also, can you give me 15 mins?
Twilight Gap
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Also, Drifter would be a good map with a very simple fix
Remove. The. Fucking. Tunnels.
There's a better way to segment a map to increase the player count and it's starts with a V.
Remove. The. Fucking. Tunnels.
There's a better way to segment a map to increase the player count and it's starts with a V.
igordennis
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See look at that beautiful TG post (that i had missed so thx for posting again).
I would play that redesigned map of yours in a heartbeat and i think it would be quite good.
I would play that redesigned map of yours in a heartbeat and i think it would be quite good.
I feel the tunnels make it more balanced. Pulse rifles cannot run rampant In there.
Ruffles with the checkpoint madness.
Rawr with the constant can-help attitude.
Lots of fine folk on GAF :]
Twilight Gap
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pulse rifles only run rampant on maps with excessive amounts of long open sightlines and flat geometry.
think i'm going to fix memento sometime this week too.
Darryl M R
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So . . are we going to get to the point where we buy TTK for people so that they can a referred friend?
Stephen_drewz
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If Sony let you gift games I could help you out -.- everyone needs to play this.
You guys should be reporting them for good behavior.
Pretty sure that system earns them some sort of karma points.
igordennis
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Do folks still feel like pulse rifles are overextending their range? I pwn any pulse rifle user with my jade rabbit from a distance. Actually, if it werent for jade rabbit i wouldnt have clocked these 40 hours of pvp this week. Such a great weapon to shoot. If i pull my game history of this week i think there are very few games that my kd was bellow 2.0. And folks are saying that only pulse rifles are viable...
Edit: actually the answer to that first question is likely yes but not to the degree some make it seem like.
Without the tunnels in drifter, everything is open (the remaining portion), thus allowing pulse bs lol.
But I feel all the current maps feels will change with December weapon update.
figadapaura
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Jade Rabbit will be getting a lot of use very soon.
Hawkmoons will be getting a Viking funeral soon.
Eyasluna may rise and take its niche.
igordennis
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No other weapon deserves a funeral that worthy.
igordennis
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Rollo Tomasi
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Are you really that surprised? It made it through QA like numerous other things have before it.
JR is a slow firing, super long range, hits like a truck, scout rifle. Can easily three shot someone from across the map.
Tlaloc is the exact opposite, but hits very hard for its archetype once your super bar is filled.
They both have their uses if you're a scout user.
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