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Destiny |OT37| Everything Old is New Again
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figadapaura
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Maybe Daughters won't have a CM. There are only 3 calcified fragments tbf.
:lol
That would make me rage-quit if we got stuck on there for too long.
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That would make me rage-quit if we got stuck on there for too long.
irrotational
Member
So for four weeks (Warpriest, Golgy, Daughters, Oryx) there will be a bit of intrigue about what the special challenge is...and then normal service is resumed?
What are the speculations for the other bosses? Daughters in two downs (everyone does that already)...
What about Oryx - the mechanics seem very tight already so special ways to do it seem a bit harder to think up? You could have a "no ToM" challenge or "use a specific weapon" challenge but that locks out anyone who doesn't have that weapon.
It would be ironic if the "no knight" strat was actually what they thought up for challenge mode!
Stack all 16 orbs could be another one.
What are the speculations for the other bosses? Daughters in two downs (everyone does that already)...
What about Oryx - the mechanics seem very tight already so special ways to do it seem a bit harder to think up? You could have a "no ToM" challenge or "use a specific weapon" challenge but that locks out anyone who doesn't have that weapon.
It would be ironic if the "no knight" strat was actually what they thought up for challenge mode!
Stack all 16 orbs could be another one.
Warpriest Challenge
I guess you need to get rid of the right stone tablet each run . Probably some visual cue to give you a hint as to which one to hide behind. I don't know. Just taking a freaking guess here dammit!
Golgoroth Challenge
Well, we know that you have to do more than one pool now during the challenge week. There's definitely more to it. Probably have to do a certain amount of pools or something.
Oryx Challenge
Different relic runner each phase is my first guess.
I guess you need to get rid of the right stone tablet each run . Probably some visual cue to give you a hint as to which one to hide behind. I don't know. Just taking a freaking guess here dammit!
Golgoroth Challenge
Well, we know that you have to do more than one pool now during the challenge week. There's definitely more to it. Probably have to do a certain amount of pools or something.
Oryx Challenge
Different relic runner each phase is my first guess.
Warpriest: Glyph Sequence not displayed, you have a timer until you find the right combination
Golg: 1 player per bubble only. Maybe his gaze is captured for a shorter time? All rounds are now taken enemies?
Oryx: Ogres with 2x health. Oryx now charges 2x as often inside the bubble.
mehrmantrout
Member
Its going to be interesting what they do for challenge mode considering we can output a shitload of DPS now, they'll probably bump them all to 330 to negate it
It's Skolas Solar Burn all over again.
when challenge modifiers leaked it was only for the three main bosses.
Slammin_Hammon
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Hah talking about spawn balance and not mentioning how bad Firebase Delphi was. Don't really care about challenge mode until they tell us what the rewards will be. King's Fall Bosses are not fun, so there isn't much motivation to replay them more for crappy rewards. IB light and k/d comparison is obvious, the more you play the higher your light and the better you'll be.
i'm actually kinda upset we don't have a new difficulty challenge
source pls. news to me
source pls. news to me
Warlocks without their cheese rez.
That's just cheap, though.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Ah yeah, that was a load of fun actually. Nice change of pace during the fight, alternating.
irrotational
Member
Random thought - checkpoints will be a bit of a pain.
The BWU says that you select the raid as normal and you just get told which boss has challenge mode enabled....
SO if you kill the boss but don't complete the challenge (because you don't know what it is) you've lost your checkpoint and can't come back and retry it...
Obviously there are alt's and LFG to pick up checkpoints but something to bear in mind as teams go through it.
The BWU says that you select the raid as normal and you just get told which boss has challenge mode enabled....
SO if you kill the boss but don't complete the challenge (because you don't know what it is) you've lost your checkpoint and can't come back and retry it...
Obviously there are alt's and LFG to pick up checkpoints but something to bear in mind as teams go through it.
Isn't that basically just adding the "Oryx drains your light" from the campaign fight? I can't remember if that completely disabled supers or if there was a way to cleanse that.
Tbh I expected the Oryx fight in the raid to have that from the get go.
Kor of Memory
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Challenge mode ideas:
Warpriest - Kill the Warpriest with a melee or melee weapon. (Imagine all 6 people with swords swinging away.)
Golgoroth - Hit Golgy with multiple Cursed Thrall explosions
Oryx - Detonate more than 4 orbs in 1 cycle.
I fully expect this to work like Tier 3 of Court of Oryx. Each week will cycle the next boss's challenge mode in order.
Warpriest - Kill the Warpriest with a melee or melee weapon. (Imagine all 6 people with swords swinging away.)
Golgoroth - Hit Golgy with multiple Cursed Thrall explosions
Oryx - Detonate more than 4 orbs in 1 cycle.
I fully expect this to work like Tier 3 of Court of Oryx. Each week will cycle the next boss's challenge mode in order.
mehrmantrout
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How do they overcome it though, having to stop/exactly time DPS would be an awful "challenge" mode
Robdraggoo
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But that how it was year 1. Cheap handicapped difficulty
I mean there's various articles on the web (can't really search I'm at work ={) but it was even talked about here. I believe the week before the taken king when bungie database was updated kings fall showed those modifiers in the description. I can't remember, that was almost 3 months ago.
The modifiers were
War priest challenge
Golgoroth challenge
Oryx challenge
If they do anything but buff striker/defender....
Robdraggoo
Member
Datto already did the warpriest one.
We'll see, but that's their job to make it fun and challenging.
Well, they they said it will be different for Year 2 and in some ways it has been.
Just check the emblem kiosk. There are 3 emblems (5 altogether) tied to King's Fall that hasn't been obtain by anyone yet.
One has oryx in the emblem
One has a spider design to it (Golgoroth)
Last one is called Worm Gods' Servant. Warpriest is Oryx's servant (I'm reaching here.
)Kor of Memory
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I'm sure. I've tried talking my raid group into doing it a few times, just to see how much damage it would do.
Afro I think this article had some speculation on it the week before the release.
http://planetdestiny.com/kings-fall-raid-gear-perks/
Yeah it has a picture of the database in the article
http://planetdestiny.com/kings-fall-raid-gear-perks/
Yeah it has a picture of the database in the article
cool beans. ty!
6 moldering shards instead of 2!!!
That's what it sounded like in the BWU. You have to beat WP, G, O each in a very specific way that you have to discover for yourself. You can do it on either Normal or Hard.
Darryl M R
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Bungie last step for First Curse is the DUMBEST thing ever. Sure have PVP component but do not make it so people have to use a crappy gun. God. Bungie this is poor design, saying "use this sucky gun for no reason to get this exotic" is not fun.
I may quit the game altogether if they nerf Striker and/or Defender too much.
They won't nerf Striker or Defender. Hopefully they don't buff Defender because that's already prime time crutch class in PvE.
Looks pretty fun.
EL CUCO
Member
Guess I wont need to chase KF loot anymore. I got both my 320 PvE/PvP primaries already.
GG bungie
irrotational
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The quest gun is getting buffed in the December patch - as well as hand cannons generally - so you might want to wait.
Aw yis! Motherhawking moldering shards! Just what I needed!
I tried it for a couple games and instantly declared it the hardest PvP quest I've ever seen lol
I got placed into games on Widows Court and couldnt even approach enemies and if I did I was basically firing blanks anyway.
I'll do it when the December update hits but for now I don't feel like trying to bother with it.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Just check the emblem kiosk. There are 3 emblems (5 altogether) tied to King's Fall that hasn't been obtain by anyone yet.
One has oryx in the emblem
One has a spider design to it (Golgoroth)
Last one is called Worm Gods' Servant. Warpriest is Oryx's servant (I'm reaching here.
You're not wrong.
You can't add 'challenge' to the sisters without forcefully assigning people to platforms or making it a one-cycle fight(Which alot of people already do.)
Kor of Memory
Member
Bad news is they don't think the gun is sucky...
You can tell because that gun is the First Curse, just without the weird exotic perk.
So if you don't like how that gun feels, I've got some very very bad news.
Robdraggoo
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Warpriest: Must defeat boss once all 3 glyphs have been destroyed.
Golgoroth: Must deal damage from at least 2 pools per phase in order for damage to count.
Oryx: I have no fucking clue. Fuck Oryx. Crap fight anyway.
But thats how we all did the priest in the first few weeks 4 phases
But how can I hold all those moldering shards?
Robdraggoo
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How do you make it a one cycle fight? Dont you at least need the relic twice to steal the shields?
you one-cycle both bosses. by that, folks kill the boss they're dps'ing right then and there. thus, one cycle instead of two where folks take out the last sliver of health of whatever boss they left alive.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
One cycle in the sense that you only pop each sisters shield once, that's what I mean. Way back when, when we were lower light level you would do 1st sister to 25ish%, kill 2nd sister, then finish off 1st sister in a 3rd pass.
One cycle is basically killing the first witch on the first relic run and then killing the second witch on the second relic run (first run for that witch).
Two cycles involves keeping the first witch alive with a sliver of health.
EL CUCO
Member
I also had a 320 Raid Sniper that I infused into making Eirene 320 and a 317 Raid MG.
I dont even feel like playing this game. RNG can be so cruel
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