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Doctor Who 50th Anniversary |OT| Splendid Chap, All Of Them
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Bobby Roberts
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I dunno about that. Rose & Jack was a nice pair of companions. Same with Amy & Rory.
Rose and Jack had only a few episodes together, Jack really felt more like a guest star. Amy and Rory got to shine one by one but rarely together, and I feel it only worked at all since they had an established relationship to build on.
Jack worked because he wasn't there all the time, and Rory worked so well because of the chemistry with Amy. I don't think we'll see a chemistry with Twelve/Clara like we did with the previous male companions.
infiniteloop
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Christmas ep is called
Maybe just have a general hype/spoiler thread?
The Time Of The Doctor
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/11...doctor/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/11...doctor/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Maybe just have a general hype/spoiler thread?
BrokenFiction
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Just saw this on Twitter, and I don't think it was mentioned.
Trenzalore is basically French for "Treize alors".
It translates to "Thirteen, then."
Trenzalore is basically French for "Treize alors".
It translates to "Thirteen, then."
Bobby Roberts
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Adric, Nyssa & Tegan?
Ian, Susan & Barbara?
Sarah & Harry?
There's plenty of proof that multiple companions can and does work. I'm sure you could go down the list and point out negatives, things that didn't land quite right, but you can do the same with single companions, too.
The "Formula" as it were says one doctor, one companion - but upon closer examination, that formula isn't as rock-solid as it would seem upon first glance, and axiomatically suggesting "Three's a crowd" doesn't hold, for me. It doesn't so much matter WHY it works, just that it does, and Amy & Rory (and River) worked. Adric, Nyssa & Tegan worked. Rose, Mickey & Jack worked.
Yes, I'd like some time for Capaldi and Coleman to establish a relationship that isn't solely based on Capaldi trying to figure out Coleman - but it's also possible that relationship can be expanded upon with a third party in there for BOTH people to bounce off of.
Ian, Susan & Barbara?
Sarah & Harry?
There's plenty of proof that multiple companions can and does work. I'm sure you could go down the list and point out negatives, things that didn't land quite right, but you can do the same with single companions, too.
The "Formula" as it were says one doctor, one companion - but upon closer examination, that formula isn't as rock-solid as it would seem upon first glance, and axiomatically suggesting "Three's a crowd" doesn't hold, for me. It doesn't so much matter WHY it works, just that it does, and Amy & Rory (and River) worked. Adric, Nyssa & Tegan worked. Rose, Mickey & Jack worked.
Yes, I'd like some time for Capaldi and Coleman to establish a relationship that isn't solely based on Capaldi trying to figure out Coleman - but it's also possible that relationship can be expanded upon with a third party in there for BOTH people to bounce off of.
Quick Mustard
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Oh man, if the one thing on there is true, i will be so fucking happy.
You will see who the voice in the TARDIS was.
Bugged me for fucking years.
Different times, different format, different showrunner. Moffat struggles sometimes with characters, I'd rather he keep it simple.
What exactly is that referring to? Which episode?
infiniteloop
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Pandorica Opens/The Big Bang when River is stuck in the TARDIS
AW CMON, the title should have been "The Silence of the Doctor"
paradox121
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I love stuff like this. Even if it wasn't intentional it makes all the over analysis and believing one thing to mean another totally worth it.
Ah, so spoiler guy was right all along. So we'll get answers to all those? Yay! Also I'm guessing the "Silence will fall" voice in the Tardis is an aged 11.
Quick Mustard
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The Pandoria Opens.
"Silence will fall" was spoken from an unknown voice, only River heard it, then the TARDIS blew up.
No one knows who said it.
No one knows who said it.
The Doctor's Wife.
"Fear me, I've killed hundreds of Time Lords."
"Fear me, I've killed all of them!"
Which we now know isn't true...
Quick Mustard
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I don't think Adric, Nyssa & Tegan worked, but that's mostly due to some wonky storylines and writing at the time. Both the classic series (the first two Doctors rarely had a single companion, and the fifth Doctor is a famous example as well, even if that one didn't work that well for me) and the modern series (Amy & Rory) showed that it could work. As long as the writing is good enough it'll work. I mean, Clara doesn't have that much depth by herself, and her storyline so far was all about the mystery that was solved in Name of the Doctor. There really wasn't anything else going on there. Giving her more to work with can only be a good thing, in my opinion.
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infiniteloop
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Whatever happens at Christmas, I hope it's the end of Silence will fall/Trenzalore/"Doctor Who?" Enough already.
Oh, huh. I totally forgot that there was a voice but I just went back and checked and there it is.
Well I'm glad that Moffat is finally tying up that dangling loose thread.
Bobby Roberts
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I know. I allowed for that. But wanting Moffatt to "keep it simple" seems pretty wildly unrealistic, considering you have 3 years of evidence he's kept NOTHING simple. And that's without looking at things like Sherlock, where he ALSO doesn't "keep it simple."
So long as he's on the show "Keep it Simple" is not on the books, and won't ever be. And since one of the better examples of multiple companions working is in fact Amy & Rory, I don't know that a second companion possibly joining Clara & Capaldi is necessarily the road to disappointment.
Hell, he's got a secondary triumvirate of Jenny, Vastra, and Strax working right now.
I'm not saying it WON'T fail. It could. But it seems shortsighted to say the possibility of a third companion is automatically negative. There's plenty of examples, even if you want to nitpick at 'em (they're ripe for that) that prove it CAN work.
Jorok Goldblade
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I wonder if they're going to do anything in 2015 for the 10th anniversary of the new series?
Idk you guys, that whole synopsis
really sounds unfulfilling. I mean, I'm sure it's leaving out a lot of plot points, but it feels like it might be like The Wedding of River Song where Moffat does these big long things over a somewhat long period of time and it's too much to fit in one episode and it feels bloated and badly paced.
infiniteloop
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The Christmas episode ends with Capaldi telling Clara:
"Change, my dear, and not a moment too soon" *raises eyebrow at camera*
"Change, my dear, and not a moment too soon" *raises eyebrow at camera*
I would die lol
peanutbutterlatte
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infiniteloop
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That's how we know it's legit.
peanutbutterlatte
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Rewatching the Tom Baker scene. He is such a good actor man. It's been floating around in my head all day.
"Who knows? Who... knows."
Love it.
"Who knows? Who... knows."
Love it.
infiniteloop
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I love it when he goes "shhhhhhhhhhh"
Did he do that a lot in his run?
DiipuSurotu
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As a French, the sounds Trenz- and Treize don't sound similar at all, but French isn't Moffat's mother tongue so who knows.
peanutbutterlatte
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Quick Mustard
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On a slightly off current topic note, has anyone got the website / list of the Big Finish stories in the best order to listen to them?
I saw it posted around here before the 50th, but its exploded since then and I cant find it.
I saw it posted around here before the 50th, but its exploded since then and I cant find it.
Ugh. I feel like Moffat does better with pacing when he has more time like in the Pandorica two parter, Day of the Doctor, or Sherlock. However, when he only has like 40ish minutes to play with it always feels rushed. Outside of the Eleventh Hour which was perfect.
The Girl in the Fireplace? Blink?
Lol good point. Maybe its only a problem with showrunner Moffat.
peanutbutterlatte
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Eleventh Hour was just over an hour long lol.
JoshuaJSlone
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Well huh--I thought they'd ignored/retconned that by now with something said in the Sarah Jane show, but--the Doctor lies.
Yeah, I recall him being unusually explicit about the numbering in that episode too. There was also the more jokey fact that when playing football in the same episode he was #11.
Quick Mustard
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Not sure if its been posted:
http://www.milk-vfx.com/projects/the-day-of-the-doctor/
How some of the Special FX were done for the 50th.
http://www.milk-vfx.com/projects/the-day-of-the-doctor/
How some of the Special FX were done for the 50th.
Oh, so then my point still stands haha showrunner moffat can't fit all his plot threads into 40 min.
Quick Mustard
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Oh for fucks sake if this is true, its fucking disgusting and stupid.
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/11/25/how-season-eight-of-doctor-who-will-play-out-over-two-years/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/11/25/how-season-eight-of-doctor-who-will-play-out-over-two-years/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
This is how we are hearing Doctor Who Series Eight will break down. Again, nothing official, nothing released, dont regard this as gospel. Or well send Malcom Tucker round.
Fourteen episodes, split across two years.
Seven episodes, including a Christmas Special in 2014, including that two parter Dalek story. And similarly, seven episodes, including a Christmas Special in 2015.
And that is how long Peter Capaldi is locked down to play the character. Doesnt mean he wont extend it, of course.
Fourteen episodes, split across two years.
Seven episodes, including a Christmas Special in 2014, including that two parter Dalek story. And similarly, seven episodes, including a Christmas Special in 2015.
And that is how long Peter Capaldi is locked down to play the character. Doesnt mean he wont extend it, of course.
GIVE IT A FULL SERIES FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.
peanutbutterlatte
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Well, more specifically, the former Doctor Who showrunner isn't really allowed to solve potentially huge plot threads like that with a throwaway jokey line in a spinoff show.
infiniteloop
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Quick Mustard
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Aye, I saw that earlier, but you know how these things can change at a moments notice :/
I'm just sick of the splits. It really makes it feel disjointed.
EDIT:
The Doctor Who: Legacy twitter team sent me a code to use in the game as I followed them the day they went live.
peanutbutterlatte
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*sigh* just give it to Telltale BBC 
They turned into plot arcs after starting off as Cruciform/Nightmare Child-esque namedrop mysteries from River's diary. And it's not just the existence of plot arcs that I find a bit iffy, it's the fact that they become significant and important and then a few episodes later they are explained. I feel that it's just become very formulaic: mystery is presented, mystery is resolved by end of series. Every other episode of the present shorter season format seems to be a season plot-arc episode, and I think that only really worked well for the 6th season, where plot-arc elements were included in adventure-of-the-week episodes too, before the finale.
RTD, by comparison, was happy to name-drop events in the Doctor's life, and then never return to them. He would, I suspect, have been happy to leave River's relation to the Doctor, and to Amy, as a mystery. The Doctor might have found out that he would die on Trenzalore, but I suspect that we would never have seen it.
I don't want to turn this into a RTD vs. Moffat thing again because that's not at all what I'm saying. They each have their own way of doing it and I appreciate them both. They've both been fantastic. But I am beginning to feel fatigue, I think, from Moffat's vision of the show, and in fact, I feel like it's changed a lot from Series 5 and the first half of Series 6, in ways that I don't feel are entirely positive. And we're now at a point where, for me, a lot of the mystery and excitement is beginning to drain from the show, because I know that when I hear about Big Event in the Doctor's Life X, that in a handful of episodes time I'll be watching it.
*sigh* just give it to Telltale BBC
Telltale or Obsidian could do a great Doctor Who game.
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