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Doctor Who 50th Anniversary |OT| Splendid Chap, All Of Them

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Zeppu said:
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The 7th Doctor had a great costume, but did anybody else think they should have added more question marks?
 
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APZonerunner said:
The potion is very much in keeping with who the Sisterhood is, though, and they were established in an episode nearly 40 years ago. It's dripping in continuity in a sense, as the fourth Doctor meets the sisterhood in that 1976 story, but then there's also an Eighth Doctor Big Finish story where he visits there (and we can now assume ALL his Big Finish adventures canonized fully, in a sense, thanks to the companion namecheck - including Lucie, who was his companion in that story)... Moffat went deeper than I'd ever have imagined.
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Yeah, I see now I'm too ignorant of that to necessarily pass judgement, so thanks for the info drop folks.
Again, I think I'm guessing I'll feel better about how they handled it after I understand more of Hurt's "doctor".
 
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Trike said:
The 7th Doctor had a great costume, but did anybody else think they should have added more question marks?
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Hopefully Peter Capaldi brings back the question mark. Baseball cap, earrings, necklace, t-shirt, rings, socks, man-satchel etc.... I wanna see those question marks everywhere. Perhaps even a cheeky tattoo.

It's the only thing that New Who is missing.
 
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The potion is a macguffin, I wouldn't pay much attention to it. It could've been a magic spell, a bizarre ritual, a mysterious object or even a cursed gentleman's garment and it would have had the same impact. What was important within the plot was that the Doctor's time was running out, that he had a choice and this was the choice the Doctor made, for that it worked really well. Given the constraints of the seven minute format I think the shortcomings of the ancient badass potion can be forgiven.

What I found really interesting (and what has probably already been said before) is how the regeneration can be steered and manipulated in a particular direction. The time-lords' forced regeneration of 2-3 did this already, but given that Moffat has made a point of it in 8's instance I wouldn't be surprised if we see a bit of that again between 11 and 12.
 
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sionyboy said:
Hopefully Peter Capaldi brings back the question mark. Baseball cap, earrings, necklace, t-shirt, rings, socks, man-satchel etc.... I wanna see those question marks everywhere. Perhaps even a cheeky tattoo.

It's the only thing that New Who is missing.
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11th Doctor regenerates violently, causing his clothes to tear apart. 12 Doctor is on all fours, breathing heavily trying to recover. Slowly pan over to his,backside to reveal tramp stamp question mark, with the dot heavily implied to be his anus.

Credits.
 
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ibrahima said:
The potion is a macguffin, I wouldn't pay much attention to it. It could've been a magic spell, a bizarre ritual, a mysterious object or even a cursed gentleman's garment and it would have had the same impact. What was important within the plot was that the Doctor's time was running out, that he had a choice and this was the choice the Doctor made, for that it worked really well. Given the constraints of the seven minute format I think the shortcomings of the ancient badass potion can be forgiven.
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Also, there's a bit of a Pushing Daisies thing going on there, too: He's technically a zombie at that point, isn't he? The Sisters have revived him for all of four total minutes. He's got four minutes, no Tardis, stranded on Karn, and he's been told he's the only person who can stop the entirety of the universe from being destroyed in the Time War.

It's either drink the potion or blink back into the void. Walk away from everything, or choose a regeneration from the Karn soda fountain.
 
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ibrahima said:
What I found really interesting (and what has probably already been said before) is how the regeneration can be steered and manipulated in a particular direction. The time-lords' forced regeneration of 2-3 did this already, but given that Moffat has made a point of it in 8's instance I wouldn't be surprised if we see a bit of that again between 11 and 12.
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Davies also said at one point that the Doctor subconsciously steered the 9>10 regeneration to make himself a better fit for Rose.
 
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RetroGamer42 said:
Davies also said at one point that the Doctor subconsciously steered the 9>10 regeneration to make himself a better fit for Rose.
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Did he? As far as I know he never quite said that, but he said that she may have passively rubbed off on him, determining aspects of the regeneration. He specifically said this regarding why he ended up with a London sort of accent rather than Tennant's natural Scottish; the idea was that Rose's accent had rubbed off. He didn't state it as something he had control over, though, conscious or not, but rather as just something that just naturally occurred.

Which is funny, since Capaldi will be coming in with a Scottish accent after Smith's Doctor spent more time with Amy than anybody else...
 
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RetroGamer42 said:
Davies also said at one point that the Doctor subconsciously steered the 9>10 regeneration
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acheron_xl said:
Also, the Mels > River regen, in which she was apparently focusing on a dress size.
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Good catch both of you, also see Romana's "dressing room" regeneration. The constraints of the show, particularly the modern show, as far as regenerations are concerned often leave us with the only kind of regeneration being a somewhat traumatic, save-the-day regeneration. How about if it had all the emotional impact of a new haircut? I suppose it would miss the point really.
 
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ibrahima said:
Good catch both of you, also see Romana's "dressing room" regeneration. The constraints of the show, particularly the modern show, as far as regenerations are concerned often leave us with the only kind of regeneration being a somewhat traumatic, save-the-day regeneration. How about if it had all the emotional impact of a new haircut? I suppose it would miss the point really.
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Much like all the Doctor faces in The Brain of Morbius, I try to look past whatever the hell Romana II was doing with her regeneration there. Unless there's some connection between Romana's body juggling and stuff like 10 regrowing his hand in The Christmas Invasion and River knocking out the Nazis in Let's Kill Hitler, which hasn't been explicitly spelled out yet.
 
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ibrahima said:
Good catch both of you, also see Romana's "dressing room" regeneration. The constraints of the show, particularly the modern show, as far as regenerations are concerned often leave us with the only kind of regeneration being a somewhat traumatic, save-the-day regeneration. How about if it had all the emotional impact of a new haircut? I suppose it would miss the point really.
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If I thought I could only ever have twelve haircuts in my lifetime, I'd probably take haircuts more seriously.
 
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Picture above got me thinking... what's the most Doctors that have appeared in one photograph? Real doctors, not Hurndall, not mannequin Tom Baker.

Would probably be a fan convention.

Also, were Tom Baker and Troughton ever photographed together? Yes! At a 1983 fan convention:

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edit: Answered my own question, 5!:

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the war doctor just by looks alone has more personality in than 9/10/11 combined. then again, we are talking about john hurt. nice to have someone that isnt just a younf interchangeable person
 
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Doing a bit of lurking of Gallifrey Base while waiting for some work files to encode, and I have to say I'm getting a great laugh out of the callousness of their review forum - which has now reached Series 6 and 7, its finale.

The Wedding of River Song is described as a "wet fart" to end the "worst ever season" of the show, and this comment on the review of Night Terrors made me hoot for all the wrong reasons: "Yes Mark [Gatiss], we know your daddy didn't love you. Get over it."

Doctor Who fans are such shits. I love it.

EDIT: Another great hilarious one from the Lets Kill Hitler thread: "somethings gone a bit wrong with an episode when Hitler comes across as the most likable and identifiable character in it."

These people are nutters. Amazing.
 
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APZonerunner said:
Doing a bit of lurking of Gallifrey Base while waiting for some work files to encode, and I have to say I'm getting a great laugh out of the callousness of their review forum - which has now reached Series 6 and 7, its finale.

The Wedding of River Song is described as a "wet fart" to end the "worst ever season" of the show, and this comment on the review of Night Terrors made me hoot for all the wrong reasons: "Yes Mark [Gatiss], we know your daddy didn't love you. Get over it."

Doctor Who fans are such shits. I love it.

EDIT: Another great hilarious one from the Lets Kill Hitler thread: "somethings gone a bit wrong with an episode when Hitler comes across as the most likable and identifiable character in it."

These people are nutters. Amazing.
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Gallifrey Base (and Outpost Gallifrey I guess) has been a weird place over the last seven-ish years. Sometimes you can't move for all the praise, other times it's wall-to-wall bitchiness. I've not spent much time there since S6 wrapped up, the amount of bickering and general crankiness gets pretty wearing.
 
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25 new pictures here: http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/the-day-of-the-doctor-even-more-pics-55492.htm

APZonerunner said:
Doing a bit of lurking of Gallifrey Base while waiting for some work files to encode, and I have to say I'm getting a great laugh out of the callousness of their review forum - which has now reached Series 6 and 7, its finale.

The Wedding of River Song is described as a "wet fart" to end the "worst ever season" of the show, and this comment on the review of Night Terrors made me hoot for all the wrong reasons: "Yes Mark [Gatiss], we know your daddy didn't love you. Get over it."

Doctor Who fans are such shits. I love it.

EDIT: Another great hilarious one from the Lets Kill Hitler thread: "somethings gone a bit wrong with an episode when Hitler comes across as the most likable and identifiable character in it."

These people are nutters. Amazing.
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Hahaha. Yeah, the moaners on there are a good laugh.
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_zaXQKq5SY

Slightly better quality version of the NZ trailer. Spoilers!

Notable: Rose talking!
No Londoner drawl. Billie's natural posh accent. Definitely not Rose Tyler, then.

Dialogue is:
Eleven: No More.
Rose(?): No More
Rose(?): And you're the one to save us all.

Also worth noting that there is indeed a shot of
all of the cast on one TARDIS that isn't 11's, and it appears to be Hurt's, with RTD-style Coral and classic series style walls.
 
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Well, after mulling it over for a few weeks, I've finally committed to the cinema showing of DotD (Strictly can wait that night!). Tickets purchased, I'm good to go.

Looking at the booking website, the cinema I picked was showing it on two screens. The first had 22 seats free out of 185; the second - wheelchair-accessible (which was the one I picked - not for the accessibility, but because there was a nicer seat available!) had rather more ; 70 free out of 187.

Still fairly packed - they definitely needed a second screen for it, which is impressive enough! No idea if that's particularly representative of the whole country, though - this is Oxford, so a plentiful student population, for one thing (and this is the only cinema showing it within easy walking distance of the university; the only other one showing it is out beyond the ringroad)
 
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Ignis Fatuus said:
There was nothing in those spoilers that would rule out what I want to happen, so I'm just gonna cross my fingers and hope.
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I dunno. When I originally read it I thought maybe you hadn't seen the spoilers.

The problem comes with Nine acting the way he does. He absolutely believes he caused the genocide of both the Time Lords and the Daleks.If the Doctors succeed in NOT committing genocide, Nine's adventures sort of weird. Either a) Nine is just FAKING IT, which I don't think is possible or remotely believable to retcon in or b) Nine honestly doesn't know that the Time War gets averted/nullified.

So him purposefully going to find Rose, to make sure she becomes Bad Wolf, to ensure she plays her part in ending the Time War seems off. Although I do like the idea of Ten & Eleven telling him he needs to find a girl name Rose, because it's very, very important that he do so, but not telling him why.

Nine almost HAS to have no knowledge that Ten, Eleven, and War have succeeded in averting the Time War. Otherwise none of his behavior fits

And all of this is presuming we actually get Eccleston in this somehow
 
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Exterminieren said:
In fairness, it's not like Who and BB are aiming for the same audience.

She was pencilled in to appear on The Sarah Jane Adventures before Liz's illness. :(:(:(
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That would have been odd; she's not of a time contemporary with SJA, which I think all the other guests were?

Still, there would have been something nicely circular about having Sophie Aldred back on CBBC :)
 
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mclem said:
That would have been odd; she's not of a time contemporary with SJA, which I think all the other guests were?

Still, there would have been something nicely circular about having Sophie Aldred back on CBBC :)
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How do you mean contemporary? As in, New Who? I mean, we had Jo Grant, we had The Brigadier was in SJA...! The latter was Nick's last acting job before he passed, I think. Fittingly. Glad he got that. It was meant to be Martha, and then Freema was busy and they needed another UNIT character. So glad he got one last run in the Who universe. Or do you mean close to Sarah Jane's original appearance, same sort of time period? I don't think that really matters. The moment they did Jo Grant and the Brig they swung the doors open for any and all old Who characters, really, as kids would have no idea who they are.

There's also a great little dialogue from Sarah Jane at the end of the episode Jo Grant is in where she talks about tracking down/following other people who'd travelled with the Doctor. She mentions what happened to Harry and others, and one of the ones mentioned is Ace. Who runs a charity called ACE, A Charitable Earth. That was to tee her up for the next series, but it wasn't to be.

As a general aside, if any members of Who-GAF haven't seen the episode of SJA Matt is in, it's worth a watch. Gotta keep in mind it's aimed at six to ten year olds, though. Warning: features a retcon about the Tenth Doctor's 'grand tour' before regenerating that will make some people frothingly angry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVI5V2XOb48 / http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijXg_94cW8w
 
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Exterminieren

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mclem said:
Well, after mulling it over for a few weeks, I've finally committed to the cinema showing of DotD (Strictly can wait that night!). Tickets purchased, I'm good to go.

Looking at the booking website, the cinema I picked was showing it on two screens. The first had 22 seats free out of 185; the second - wheelchair-accessible (which was the one I picked - not for the accessibility, but because there was a nicer seat available!) had rather more ; 70 free out of 187.

Still fairly packed - they definitely needed a second screen for it, which is impressive enough! No idea if that's particularly representative of the whole country, though - this is Oxford, so a plentiful student population, for one thing (and this is the only cinema showing it within easy walking distance of the university; the only other one showing it is out beyond the ringroad)
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Oh, you're Oxford too?

I was PISSED when they added the George St Odeon showings. I'm booked in to the Vue as part of the Oxford Uni Doc Soc, and it's going to be a total bugger getting there.

They only added the Odeon showings because the Vue ones are basically sold out, I'm told.
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How do you mean contemporary? As in, New Who? I mean, we had Jo Grant, we had The Brigadier was in SJA...! The latter was Nick's last acting job before he passed, I think. Fittingly. Or do you mean close to Sarah Jane's original appearance, same sort of time period?
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I guess he's saying that, whereas Sarah, Jo and the Brig are mainly 70s characters, Ace is very much rooted in the 80s, which is not an area of the show's history that the show's plundered much since, with the exception of Davison in Time Crash.
 
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infiniteloop said:
Picture above got me thinking... what's the most Doctors that have appeared in one photograph? Real doctors, not Hurndall, not mannequin Tom Baker.
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I can't help feeling - and it is just a feeling, no inside knowledge - that there's a good chance of next week's RT having a multi-doctor photo of *some* description. They've been good to Who through the years, they're the sort of organisation with the capability of organising that, and they're promoting the 50th big-time themselves.

For one thing, I wouldn't be surprised if next week's is either Tennant + Smith or - and I think this is a shade more likely - a multicover affair with all the doctors represented.
 
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APZonerunner said:
Or do you mean close to Sarah Jane's original appearance, same sort of time period? I don't think that really matters. The moment they did Jo Grant and the Brig they swung the doors open for any and all old Who characters, really, as kids would have no idea who they are.
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I meant time period, given that Ace is futuristic, but I don't think it was ever quite established where she was left after travelling with 7, was it?

There's also a great little dialogue from Sarah Jane at the end of the episode Jo Grant is in where she talks about tracking down/following other people who'd travelled with the Doctor. She mentions what happened to Harry and others, and one of the ones mentioned is Ace. Who runs a charity called ACE, A Charitable Earth. That was to tee her up for the next series, but it wasn't to be.
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I'm sort of loving the idea of a charitable organisation whose methodology is entirely based around the liberal application of Nitro-9.


Edit: Oh! I'd missed that Ace *was* from the 80's but ended up on Iceworld through a time storm. That kinda fits, then. It's been a long time since I saw McCoy stuff.
 
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mclem said:
I meant time period, given that Ace is futuristic, but I don't think it was ever quite established where she was left after travelling with 7, was it?

I'm sort of loving the idea of a charitable organisation whose methodology is entirely based around the liberal application of Nitro-9.
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If you're a fan of old Who in general and haven't seen it, it's worth giving the Jo Grant episode of SJA a watch. The only episodes I've watched are this one, the Tennant one, and the Brig one. Matt's in it as well. It's worth a watch. Gotta keep in mind it's aimed at six to ten year olds, though. Warning: features a retcon about the Tenth Doctor's 'grand tour' before regenerating that will make some hate it even more! It is a bit of a lovely tribute to that era of Who, though. Plus, Sarah meeting 11!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVI5V2XOb48 / http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijXg_94cW8w

I do like the idea that Ace, the anarchist, ended up a charity magnate!
 
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