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Doctor Who 50th Anniversary |OT| Splendid Chap, All Of Them

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PaulloDEC

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The one thing I'm curious about RE film is how it'd... well, work. The reason they can get away with it for Day of the Doctor is because it's also on TV at the same time, but I remember RTD saying ages ago when asked about a film that part of the problem is the way the license fee stuff works means they're not allowed to put anything 'vital' in a venue that can only be accessed by paying money. So it'd have to be a spin-off, or something weird like that.

Does anybody know how these BBC guidelines work in detail?

I imagine it'd simply be a standalone adventure, or one that slotted into the continuity in a nondescript place. So long as it wasn't required watching to understand the TV show, they'd be good to go. That's my understanding of it anyway.
 

Mariolee

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The one thing I'm curious about RE film is how it'd... well, work. The reason they can get away with it for Day of the Doctor is because it's also on TV at the same time, but I remember RTD saying ages ago when asked about a film that part of the problem is the way the license fee stuff works means they're not allowed to put anything 'vital' in a venue that can only be accessed by paying money. So it'd have to be a spin-off, or something weird like that.

Does anybody know how these BBC guidelines work in detail?

We'll probably have another Fox-produced adaptation and it'll end up looking like Inspector Spacetime did in Community.

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I imagine it'd simply be a standalone adventure, or one that slotted into the continuity in a nondescript place. So long as it wasn't required watching to understand the TV show, they'd be good to go. That's my understanding of it anyway.

I look forward to The Paternoster Gang: The Movie
 
I imagine it'd simply be a standalone adventure, or one that slotted into the continuity in a nondescript place. So long as it wasn't required watching to understand the TV show, they'd be good to go. That's my understanding of it anyway.

It's weirdly complicated, though. The Red Dwarf movie was never intended to be part of the 'understanding' of the show - plus it's a comedy show - but the idea of what it was ultimately scuppered BBC funding for that movie, and in turn actually killed the show, because they put the show on hiatus to make the movie, then the BBC couldn't fund, and they never found alternative funds. I'm not saying that's what'd happen to Who, obviously - precautions are clearly being taken to distance movie plans from the show - but the rules are evidently really complex.
 

Mariolee

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It's weirdly complicated, though. The Red Dwarf movie was never intended to be part of the 'understanding' of the show - plus it's a comedy show - but the idea of what it was ultimately scuppered BBC funding for that movie, and in turn actually killed the show, because they put the show on hiatus to make the movie, then the BBC couldn't fund, and they never found alternative funds. I'm not saying that's what'd happen to Who, obviously - precautions are clearly being taken to distance movie plans from the show - but the rules are evidently really complex.

Wait, so what about the Inbetweeners? Wasn't that a BBC show that got turned into a film fairly quickly?
 

PaulloDEC

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It's weirdly complicated, though. The Red Dwarf movie was never intended to be part of the 'understanding' of the show - plus it's a comedy show - but the idea of what it was ultimately scuppered BBC funding for that movie, and in turn actually killed the show, because they put the show on hiatus to make the movie, then the BBC couldn't fund, and they never found alternative funds. I'm not saying that's what'd happen to Who, obviously - precautions are clearly being taken to distance movie plans from the show - but the rules are evidently really complex.

You're right, it's probably far more complex than it seems from the outside. Those rumblings about the show moving over to BBC Worldwide probably isn't entirely unrelated.
 
Wait, so what about the Inbetweeners? Wasn't that a BBC show that got turned into a film fairly quickly?

As said above, Inbetweeners is a channel 4 show. Channel 4 gets a few public grants here and there, but is not taxpayer funded. They have ads, etc. A lot of non-BBC British shows end up being taken Worldwide by the BBC, though, so a lot of people know shows like The Inbetweeners and Peep Show as 'BBC shows'. That's part of the BBC's taxpayer-funded remit - to take the best of British, even non-BBC stuff, and spread it to the world as a way of showcasing British culture.

The Thick of It ---> In The Loop?

In The Loop is a weird old case. I think. It's actually a UK Film Council movie - the BBC collaborated and gave them a ton of money and production aid, but the main producers are actually the UK Film Council (which was axed a few years ago). It also had a ton over overseas funding - some Canadian, some American, some French. The UK Film Council was funded by National Lottery grants and stuff. It's a weird case. Armando - the writer/creator - retains the rights to all his shows & characters, though, like Alan Partridge, who has been used for corporate promotions and done private show as well as BBC stuff. So he could've taken In The Loop to whoever he liked for funding and used Tucker and stuff. The BBC just stepped up and offered them cash from their very limited film budget. They recently helped him to fund that new Partridge movie, too.

Aside from all that, In The Loop is completely unrelated to The Thick of It, really. Malcolm and Jamie are in it, but all the other actors play different characters (a brief appearance by Tucker's Secretary & Angela Heaney aside) and the Prime Minister referenced in the script/cut sequences is a different one to The Thick of It. So it's an alternate universe, in a sense.

That said, this stuff is getting easier. Like, where in years past Clarkson/Hammond/etc used to do non Top Gear DVDs that were Top Gear in all but name for Christmas, this year they've actually got a Top Gear-branded DVD out which is basically an exclusive episode. Things like that, and the fact the BBC Worldwide bought a huge stake in Clarkson's Top Gear production company and stuff has aided that. So the BBC is becoming more adaptable, slowly, but the rules are still tight and difficult. Especially now, where elements of the British government would love to strip them of all funding and make them a profit-driven organization - it's more important for them to tread carefully than ever.
 
Interesting, lovely motion in Australian Parliament today...

BUSINESS OF THE FEDERATION CHAMBER

Monday, 18 November 2013

The Federation Chamber meets at 10.30 am

PRIVATE MEMBERS’ BUSINESS ACCORDED PRIORITY FOR THIS SITTING,

11 AM TO 1.30 PM

Notices

† 1 MR CHRISTENSEN: To move—That this House:

(1) notes:

(a) that the television series Doctor Who will celebrate its 50th anniversary on the 23 November 2013;

(b) that the 50th anniversary of the first screening of Doctor Who in Australia will take place on the 12 Januar y 2015;

(c) the many connections between Doctor Who and Australia including (but not limited to):

(i) the very first Doctor Who story, ‘An Unearthly Child’, written by Australian scriptwriter Anthony Coburn;

(ii) the score for the signature Doctor Who theme tune, written by Australian composer Ron Grainer;

(iii) the incidental music in the series throughout most of the 1960s and 1970s, written by Australian composer Dudley Simpson;

(iv) Australian actress Janet Fielding, playing an Australian character Tegan Jovanka in the series (alongside the Doctor as portrayed by Peter Davison);

(v) actress Katy Manning, playing the character Jo Grant in the series (alongside the Doctor as portrayed by Jon Pertwee), and becoming an Australian citizen in 2004;

(vi) Australian horse racing icon Gai Waterhouse, playing the character of Presta in the Doctor Who episode ‘The Invasion of Time’ (alongside the Doctor as portrayed by Tom Baker); and

(vii) Australian pop star Kylie Minogue, playing the character Astrid (alongside the Doctor as portrayed by David Tennant) in the 2007 Christmas Special ‘Voyage of the Damned’; and

(d) the fact that the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) has been the main broadcaster for Doctor Who in Australia; and

(2) request that:

(a) in celebration of the 50th anniversary of the first screening of Doctor Who in Australia, the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) consider filming the 2015 series of the telev ision show in Australia; and

(b) the ABC, Screen Australia and the various State-based film funding bodies consider offering finance to entice the BBC to film the 2015 series of Doctor Who in Australia. ( Notice given 13 November 2013. Time allowed—50 minutes. )

They've done two weeks abroad every year since 2008, so I'm sure they will in 2014/2015... maybe it'll be there!
 

Boem

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Interesting, lovely motion in Australian Parliament today...



They've done two weeks abroad every year since 2008, so I'm sure they will in 2014/2015... maybe it'll be there!

My first impulse when considering an Australian Who story (which would be lovely!): bring back the Dream Lord and combine that with the Aboriginal concept of Dreamtime. Moffat, if you're reading this, I'm more than willing to write it. I'll take the same payment as Peter Jackson. Even a New Paradigm Dalek would do.

Man, can't wait for the specials. Hard to believe it's this week. An Adventure in Space and Time is on thursday, right?
 
Best way to go for a movie nowadays would be McGann. I can't see a film with Capaldi doing anything but making the TV show look weaker.

Oh, seeing Matt being... Matt, but in costume as 11, that's weird. He's so shy!
 
Best way to go for a movie nowadays would be McGann. I can't see a film with Capaldi doing anything but making the TV show look weaker.

Oh, seeing Matt being... Matt, but in costume as 11, that's weird. He's so shy!

The problem with that, though, is that the movie would get the big marketing push and that'd make the TV show, and the current Doctor, look like second-string bullshit. It's a very difficult line to toe.
 
The problem with that, though, is that the movie would get the big marketing push and that'd make the TV show, and the current Doctor, look like second-string bullshit. It's a very difficult line to toe.

Hmm, I suppose. Personally, I'm anti-movie, just because it's probably impossible to escape the second-string effect.

Again, a Netflix mini-series in between seasons of proper Who would be lovely.
 

Boem

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Best way to go for a movie nowadays would be McGann. I can't see a film with Capaldi doing anything but making the TV show look weaker.

Oh, seeing Matt being... Matt, but in costume as 11, that's weird. He's so shy!

Wasn't the rumor that
Capaldi was going to get 2 series and 1 movie after that under Moffat's supervision, with Peter Jackson doing the 2014 christmas special
? I mean, the McGann short was succesful, but I think it's pretty unlikely they'll go backwards for the first (well, third, or fourth if you count Day of the Doctor) big screen DW treatment.

If we're going to get more McGann I think it'll either be a webseries or a more involved role in the 60th anniversary. As much as I'd like to see more onscreen adventures of McGann or any of the other older Doctors, the main series/storyline will always be focused on the current Doctor, as it should be. It's like Moffat and others have said in the past (not just about the Anniversary special) - bringing back classic characters and monsters is an important part of Doctor Who, but the thing that made is so succesful over the years is that it should always feel new and exciting. The future is more important than the past.
 

mclem

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I thought it was this at first, but dropped it because it seemed too un-BBC.

There's an entertainingly subversive streak in the otherwise-stuffy Beeb. I haven't seen it as much lately, but often captions on stories on the BBC news website were darkly humourous.
 
It's easy to notice how Moffat doesn't really write that differently between the different Doctors in that clip with the rabbit. I can easily imagine Smith (or Eccleston!) saying that.

Not saying that's good or bad or whatever, just that it's a thing.
 
Has anybody else noticed that the official Doctor Who twitter has been changing its logo every day for the past week pretty much? They've stylized it like the old logos, 9 and 10 had the fiery logo, 8 had the blue-chromey one, so on and so forth.
 
I bet it is! If only DVD commentaries were on Netflix.

A couple choice bits:

Early on, Tennant surmises that the episode should be called "Three and a Half Doctors and a Bloke in a Wig".

When discussing the Cybermen's appearance, Tennant and Collinson remark that it seemed like there was heaps of them when you were eight and first watching it but now it's "six fat lads in a quarry" (a fab name for a Dr. Who podcast, I reckon).

Earlier on, the drinks Tegan fetches after Hurndall and Susan arrive at the Tardis and Hurndall tells her to get tea are observed to look more like liquors. Susan and Turlough being stuck in the Tardis while everyone else adventures becomes a bit of a thing, and eventually Collinson says: "Poor old Turlough's done nothing but drink absinthe for a whole episode. He just thinks he's hallucinating and he's gonna wake up back in that school any minute."
 

8bit

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Has anybody else noticed that the official Doctor Who twitter has been changing its logo every day for the past week pretty much? They've stylized it like the old logos, 9 and 10 had the fiery logo, 8 had the blue-chromey one, so on and so forth.

If you look at the pics of the various Doctors on their timeline you can see the different logos in the corners:

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The decline of classic Doctor Who can be linked to the amount of question marks present on the Doctor's uniform.

7 was awesome but there was no way he'd survive a sweater full of them plus the umbrella.
 

twobear

sputum-flecked apoplexy
Ohhh, the twitter photos are different! And yes, it really looks like they are making the emblem for each one representing their logos. Really cool.

I suppose Hartnell will be simple white emblem with black bakground only.

EDIT Tried to crop them out. The quality is horrible and the twitter images seem to be done by an intern with little sense of desing but here they are from 6 to 10 (9 and 10 are the same and 11 is non existant in his photo, seems they didnt have the idea of the logos until halfway). Dindt help either that abload didnt work and had to use imgur.
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Would love to do them bigger and with better image quality, but I dont have much time today. Does someone have the normal emblem at a good resolution?

These are cool. I hope this one makes an appearance:

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A couple choice bits:

Early on, Tennant surmises that the episode should be called "Three and a Half Doctors and a Bloke in a Wig".

When discussing the Cybermen's appearance, Tennant and Collinson remark that it seemed like there was heaps of them when you were eight and first watching it but now it's "six fat lads in a quarry" (a fab name for a Dr. Who podcast, I reckon).

Earlier on, the drinks Tegan fetches after Hurndall and Susan arrive at the Tardis and Hurndall tells her to get tea are observed to look more like liquors. Susan and Turlough being stuck in the Tardis while everyone else adventures becomes a bit of a thing, and eventually Collinson says: "Poor old Turlough's done nothing but drink absinthe for a whole episode. He just thinks he's hallucinating and he's gonna wake up back in that school any minute."

Sounds great.
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The decline of classic Doctor Who can be linked to the amount of question marks present on the Doctor's uniform.

7 was awesome but there was no way he'd survive a sweater full of them plus the umbrella.

But how else are people supposed to know he's mysterious?!

Capaldi should just go all out and dress like Soos from Gravity Falls:

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