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Drastic measures must be enabled before its becomes a fiery supernova of ebola grown from the small fire ball of aids it is now
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Why do you answer your own questions?
Drastic measures must be enabled before its becomes a fiery supernova of ebola grown from the small fire ball of aids it is now
SecretMoblin
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sigh do I really have to defend poonix now because of the semi-ironic Allahder Titan praise earlier
you know what, fuck it, I went off as that shit pidgeon once and it was KIND OF enjoyable, fuck the haters, sun ray should minibash
you know what, fuck it, I went off as that shit pidgeon once and it was KIND OF enjoyable, fuck the haters, sun ray should minibash
the heights of poetry that phoenix inspires. icon.
Roses are Red
Violets are Blue
to the dump she goes
Phoenix's a poo
Sigismundo
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I finished Gold. I am probably not going to play Ruby for a while because I have no real nostalgia for it and I might as well pace the games out a bit.
Fuck you Game Freak for making Houndour Kanto-only.
I am somehow not surprised Sven only has a 36% winrate on main stage. People (ppd) keep picking him as a solo core and you don't do that.
manfestival
Member
You know its bad when people start talking about pokemon over dota and even over anime. Sigh
Wonderboy91
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Pokemon is anime dude.
manfestival
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I dont remember playing anime on my gameboy sonny.
Captain Fish
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Just caught up on finals, yay Team Secret! I'll be really impressed if they manage to also be the final boss of the Manilla Major. Seeing MVP, Liquid and CompLexity do so well was also pretty cool.
How could you forget the wonderful Gameboy Advance Video
Look at that wonderful video quality:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry8C1rk2nlA
Man Fire Emblem is disgusting
How is that even a game?
Have you actually played it?
Drama alert
https://ask.fm/DotACapitalist/answers/134230658701
https://twitter.com/WomanInDota/status/706699515957411841
Really sad that Capitalist would rather block these questions than actually answer them.
https://ask.fm/DotACapitalist/answers/134230658701
https://twitter.com/WomanInDota/status/706699515957411841
Really sad that Capitalist would rather block these questions than actually answer them.
its odd, admittedly only the US has a large black population from the bigger areas that play dota, but the fact there isn't a single black person in the US scene at all is puzzling
SecretMoblin
Member
and yall call POTA a mess
There's WeedmanDota! I don't know anyone other than that but NA doesn't have a lot of pros.
manfestival
Member
not trying to kick up a storm but I dont see how dota 2 is a racist game when there are peruvian teams, people like sumail, universe, the chinese teams, and much more out there. It just screams people trying to cause more drama in the current times since the US is on a drug high with racism.Drama alert
https://ask.fm/DotACapitalist/answers/134230658701
https://twitter.com/WomanInDota/status/706699515957411841
Really sad that Capitalist would rather block these questions than actually answer them.
call_kotaku
Member
I'm just disappointed that he didn't give the "I realize it's a problem and we've been working on it as a community, but I realize it's not enough and hopefully we can do more in the future" generic answer that trained PR people give. It's super easy and doesn't commit you to actually doing anything about discrimination, plus the worst thing you can do is act like it doesn't exist or isn't a problem because that just proves to people that there is an issue.
NormalFish
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if you have the option, play Emerald over Ruby. Really solid improvement pretty much across the board. Also recommend the Pokemon Throwback romhack over vanilla firered if you play through that and don't mind flashcarts/emulation.
I finished Gold. I am probably not going to play Ruby for a while because I have no real nostalgia for it and I might as well pace the games out a bit.
Fuck you Game Freak for making Houndour Kanto-only.
I am somehow not surprised Sven only has a 36% winrate on main stage. People (ppd) keep picking him as a solo core and you don't do that.
NormalFish
Banned
Xiao8 and Xz on the same team mm
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Wonder about garder. dude's super good. CDEC full disband or will he find replacements?
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Wonder about garder. dude's super good. CDEC full disband or will he find replacements?
No one is saying that Dota is "racist". They're just saying Dota could use more diversity, and it's disappointing that it doesn't. There isn't a single black person in the scene, caster or player, at least that has made it large. I don't know of any smaller ones if there are any.
We also need more women in the scene. We have casters/analysts in the community like Sheever and Prove, but yet we don't have a single female pro player.
manfestival
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How do you suppose that people remedy this? Look on the leaderboards and ask people for their race/gender and invite them into these positions simply because of the fact that they are placed high and fill this "expectation"? Also I find it offensive that you don't know about weedman.
Monochromaticx
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Sigismundo
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Was not expecting weedman to be mentioned in this thread of all places.
Order is
Red > Gold > Ruby > Diamond > White > Y > Sun/Moon
Yellow > Crystal > Emerald > Platinum > White 2
LG > HG > OR
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BCpDDUqEdP_/
Oh jesus.
I'm trying to play every game in a rough order so no, Ruby is not an option. Emerald comes later.
Order is
Red > Gold > Ruby > Diamond > White > Y > Sun/Moon
Yellow > Crystal > Emerald > Platinum > White 2
LG > HG > OR
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BCpDDUqEdP_/
Oh jesus.
I was about to post that. This whole major was a mess from beginning to end, really hope Valve take charge on these in the future, and it sounds like they will. At the very least, the China one probably won't be given much autonomy.
I'm curious where exactly all of this went wrong. The Frankfurt major went pretty well, and didn't have these problems, then suddenly China has almost every problem imaginable.
* Glances at reshuffle rumours* China pls, put MMY and LaNm back together 
I can honestly never tell if these new teams make sense in terms of personality and playstyle or it's just another attempt at " well what if we put these 5 together, will it work?"
Also I hope this new missing equipment/ practice room ransacking drama is resolved quickly. I can only imagine fucking everyone just wants to go home and unwind and having "one more thing" go wrong is slowly pushing them over the edge.
I can honestly never tell if these new teams make sense in terms of personality and playstyle or it's just another attempt at " well what if we put these 5 together, will it work?"
Also I hope this new missing equipment/ practice room ransacking drama is resolved quickly. I can only imagine fucking everyone just wants to go home and unwind and having "one more thing" go wrong is slowly pushing them over the edge.
Monochromaticx
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wow thats fucked up.
why would they leave laptops and gear in an unattended room tho
Wok
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For a start, the community should stop being dismissive. Stop being racist, sexist, homophobic. Stop reacting negatively to honest questions about representation.
Acting like the dota scene is perfect and would willingly welcome anyone with open arms is, well, dishonest at best.
Think about how many times you see a racist slur in game. Think about how shitty that is for a black person. Why would they even want to get involved with a community who seems to hate them? Same sit happens with every group that isn't straight white dude. Women are insulted, LGBT people are insulted, people of all colors (except white, unless they're Russian because that's okay for some reason) are insulted. It never ends.
NormalFish
Banned
That sounds horribly tedious, honestly.
I don't understand how that was your take from that. Less severe, not a total false positive.
I propose no longer spamming emotes every time someone who isn't white is shown on stream.
Wouldn't that be wonderful? ):
Wok
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manfestival
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I was hoping for more of an actual resolution(well at least attempt at suggesting one) than wishful thinking tbh.
manfestival
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I just can't imagine that it will ever be resolved with the way the game is ran but they can crack down and come up with a system like the tribunal in league? That might be a move in the direction you are looking for. It is till pretty much wishful thinking. They could also remove voice chat lol. Just being real man, don't take it the wrong way.
Very well put. This exactly.
I've posted this before, but have you seen the things WomanInDota gets in her games? https://twitter.com/womanindota
Many people like to blame the "Peruvians", the "Russians", or whatever country is the flavor of the month to blame for their losses, and that's extremely racist. I've had games where people have gone on tirades against whatever teammate throwing out racial slurs all over the place. I get that language barriers can be frustrating, but Dota has a billion ways around that. You can play with a language barrier, just because you and your teammates don't speak the same language doesn't mean that "matchmaking is screwing you over by matching you with the Peruvians".
Valve have made significant strides with in-game communication that often go unappreciated. Remember playing before the chat wheel even existed, and there was no Alt+Clicking, only pings? Remember when Alt+Clicking functionality was constantly being updated to bring in more functionality, and was still even updated recently? If I'm not mistaken, I think it was recently added to where you can Alt+Click the XP bar or enemy level to state what level the enemy is, or how much XP you need to a critical level (usually 6). You can pretty much Alt+Click anything on the screen to tell your teammates useful information about it.
Assuming latency wasn't an issue, I could probably queue into the Russia server, not use voice or text chat, and play with my teammates just fine and they would have no idea I don't understand their language.
You're really missing the point. Valve can't just go:
and have that actually work. This is something the community and Valve as a whole have to work for. Dota needs to be a welcoming environment, having more diversity in casters/panelists/players, etc would really help with that. The community needs to be more accepting of these things.
And believe it or not, Valve have made efforts in-game to do this. Obviously the report system works pretty damn well, and doesn't require any kind of LoL-esque tribunal. I'm not usually for automating stuff like that, but the way Valve have implemented it, it works really well. Granted I hope that didn't go too much to their head and try to automate everything (I'm looking at you Steam Greenlight). The methods for getting around language barriers I mentioned above are great for letting more people across the world play Dota together.
I mean it starts with a single person. Instead of defending James for being homophobic, we should be glad he can't do that at valve events anymore. Instead of letting your friends say offensive shit, call them out on it.
There is no easy solution. This is a problem that can only be solved gradually, with effort and dedication.
Monochromaticx
Member
You dont want to do this ever. Its...something else.
Imp the Dimp
Member
I queue on EUW and EUE and it makes no difference whatsoever.
manfestival
Member
Not missing the point, the thing is that I see more discussion and complaining rather than thinking of ways to actually improve the community and game. I am pretty sure that we have all been there and done that. I have had some of the racism go my way a few times in the past during games. Simply because of my username in the game. I am aware the game is in a much better state than it was previously but if anything... riots system is far more effective.
That's asking for something that goes far beyond the reaches of dota 2. I mean the main thing that started this whole thing is wanting more diversity in the staffing of events and the scene. Let's not go into a whole conversation on why prejudice is obviously bad. James being gone to me was a guy getting fired because his boss didn't want him around anymore. Even if it wasn't so obvious, the community would've been riled up but that's another thing in itself.
Shouldn't you play White 2 be after White? Or are you just slotting it into where the old "Definitive Version" would be (I wonder why Nintendo stopped making those)
Also, I don't really recall ever seeing any racial slurs against black people at all while playing Dota. Tons of Homophobic and Xenophobic stuff, but honestly not so much racist stuff.
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