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Dragon Age Veilguard, Non Binary character

VenomousCoffee

Gold Member
So what do you think about dracula by bram stoker? Is just a massive antisemitic book... is a political agenda story
I haven't read it, and I'm not sure why this response is framed as a 'gotcha' of some sort. I do really like Coppola's adaptation--for its rich visual style.

Are you trying to paint me as a hypocrite because I don't dislike other works for having an agenda? Because that's not a reasonable inference from what I said. Although I'm having a bit of difficulty understanding what you mean because of the poor grammar (I can't tell if "is a political agenda story" is a statement or a question). All works of art can be said to have an "agenda" of some sort, so I'm not sure what you mean by the term "agenda story" here.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Just started the game. I am blown away by the hair physics. Holy shit. Great first cutscene too. I chose violence.

I hope the choices are more binary than the dumb Aloy choices where everything is another variant of peaceful lets hug it out nonsense. let me fuck shit up like this all game. let me punch a reporter in the fucking face. off to a good start.
 

Northeastmonk

Gold Member
Just started the game. I am blown away by the hair physics. Holy shit. Great first cutscene too. I chose violence.

I hope the choices are more binary than the dumb Aloy choices where everything is another variant of peaceful lets hug it out nonsense. let me fuck shit up like this all game. let me punch a reporter in the fucking face. off to a good start.
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I agree. The hair does look nice.
 

ValiantInstance

Neo Member
Just started the game. I am blown away by the hair physics. Holy shit. Great first cutscene too. I chose violence.

I hope the choices are more binary than the dumb Aloy choices where everything is another variant of peaceful lets hug it out nonsense. let me fuck shit up like this all game. let me punch a reporter in the fucking face. off to a good start.
I believe SkillUp said that you can't be an evil character.
 

nikolino840

Member
Kinda pleased about this.

It always fucked me off when Gandalf just took Frodo on a quest to chuck the ring in the volcano without sitting down to work through his gender/sexual preferences first. It’s not just the ring that stopped Frodo being ‘seen’ - it was Gandalf’s horrible attitude towards acknowledging Frodo’s pronouns and who Frodo was inside as well x
In the lotr there's lot of themes about love and friendship between diffrent species...wasn't lotr used by the leftists and hippies? In italy was always used by the far right even in recent times, not only in 70s https://theconversation.com/italys-...gs-but-theyve-misread-tolkiens-message-218148
 

Roxkis_ii

Member
It's not the same as the arguments made about gay people. This whole trans issue has involved chopping up children's bodies, pumping them full of drugs that most European health organisations now admit are untested and unsafe, putting male rapists in women's prisons and a whole load of other deranged nonsense.

When people have tried to point out that this stuff is going on they have often had their careers destroyed or faced criminal prosecution.

It's also a movement that can't even define its own terms. Ask these people what a woman is and you get an incomprehensible world salad in response. As such, a lot of people resent being pressured into agreeing with ideas that don't make any sense. There's a feeling of the emperor's new clothes about it whereby many people suspect that almost no one really agrees with this stuff but people are just pretending to because they don't want to be seen as a bigot.

That sounds like bunch of stuff from off X/Twitter.

How many kids are getting gender affirming surgery a year?

In what situation did someone who speek out about trans people and lost their job?

Can you answer the above without referencing a social media website?
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
The character creator is so fucking detailed that I spent like 30 minutes there just tweaking stuff trying to make my Sydney Sweeney (failed miserably), but the tits and ass sliders do nothing. Even maxed out its not even a B cup. Straight up sexist.

I can understand not doing double Ds but at least give me a B cup. That should be the bare minimum.
 
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TheInfamousKira

Reseterror Resettler
Man and I was just watching this last night 🤣

Saruman: Find the Halfling Taash! They are most deceitful!

Orc: They?! How many men travel in this Taash company?

Saruman: How many? But one!

Orc: they? What they then, precious?

Saruman: they are they because they are neither he nor she!

Orc: so like a eunuch?

Saruman: there are older and Fouler things still in the deep that do not concern themselves with genitalia

Orc: what does the Great eye see?

Saruman: not gender, curr.

Orc: can i call it a he then?

Saruman: no, no, that's a touch too evil
 

Bernardougf

Member
The character creator is so fucking detailed that I spent like 30 minutes there just tweaking stuff trying to make my Sydney Sweeney (failed miserably), but the tits and ass sliders do nothing. Even maxed out its not even a B cup. Straight up sexist.

I can understand not doing double Ds but at least give me a B cup. That should be the bare minimum.
That is still bigger than Aloys man tits.
 
I wonder if the anti-wokeists are aware that Ghost of Tsushima has more gay characters than TLoU2, yet somehow it‘s praised left and right for its peak story and gameplay.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
The character creator is so fucking detailed that I spent like 30 minutes there just tweaking stuff trying to make my Sydney Sweeney (failed miserably), but the tits and ass sliders do nothing. Even maxed out its not even a B cup. Straight up sexist.

I can understand not doing double Ds but at least give me a B cup. That should be the bare minimum.
Can I interest you in some top surgery, bigot?
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
That is still bigger than Aloys man tits.
Aloy's figure is infinitely more petite and feminine that these troglodykes.

I wonder if the anti-wokeists are aware that Ghost of Tsushima has more gay characters than TLoU2, yet somehow it‘s praised left and right for its peak story and gameplay.
Boombox Shut Up GIF

With your sad and pathetic attempts at bait.
 
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Tangerine

Member
I enjoyed Arcane on Netflix. That could be considered woke. It was certainly diverse, featured and lgbt relationship... the story was great though and it wasn't ham fisted. It worked.

This game achieved the opposite of Arcane, with its atrocious writing.
 

GymWolf

Gold Member
Have you even watched the video?

The chick explain what is the best way to excuse yourself when you make a mistake because saying sorry is not enough or make everything about yourself...

This is clearly a certain circle of devs self-inserting their desire for the real world when someone call them with the wrong pronouns, it is pretty clear to me and to many others, and if it is not that and they actually thought this was good writing without an agenda, then it's even worse because they had no idea of what quality writing is.
 
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How many kids are getting gender affirming surgery a year?

The figures show that in the US in 2021 282 children received gender surgery.
In what situation did someone who speek out about trans people and lost their job?

This is one of several cases of someone losing their job over trans views.
 

Tajaz2426

Psychology PhD from Wikipedia University
That sounds like bunch of stuff from off X/Twitter.

How many kids are getting gender affirming surgery a year?

In what situation did someone who speek out about trans people and lost their job?

Can you answer the above without referencing a social media website?
I cannot speak on Twitter as I have no social media, but according to medical journals and reports on JSTOR (website we used to write our APA papers with, that carries almost all peer reviewed studies. Journals, etc.) have stated in the thousands have had surgeries, while ten of thousands that have taken cancer medications that has the propensity to sterilize. We have used the same meds to chemically castrate sex offenders.

My only question is how many children do you allow to get experimented on until that is enough for you? 1 million? It is one for me that is too many. We let pseudoscience like this take peoples lives by allowing doctors to give lobotomies to people by actually completely severing the nerves from the frontal lobe to the thalamus. That can never be corrected and lives are were ruined at a hell of a cost.

Just a few years ago we wouldn’t even let citizenship happen for some Africans performing genital mutilation to children, cutting the nerve in the clitoris.

I’m going to repeat this, there is not one medical journal, nor report that has been peer reviewed that states medications and surgeries help people with gender dysphoria. In fact you had the women who did this study just recently was doctor named Olson-Kennedy and she held onto because it proved yet again, it does nothing for gender dysphoria and can cause the to go down the rabbit hole of depression even faster. She also didn’t want to lose the ten million in grants. The only journals we have state implicitly that it has not help in the present and has adverse affects as the patient ages, becomes and adult, or an older teenager and realizes what has happened, that they can never breast feed, that they can never have children, that they can never go back to being normal. It actually raises depression and higher the rate of suicide and suicide ideation because as adults they will never fit into society and will never fit in with their own selves in the mirror.

I do not care what adults do, you bring children into it and I’ll speak up everyday that begins in Y. That was my Job as a father and a Marine deploying to the Middle East and around the world, and I’ll continue to do everything possible to bring to light that absolutely no children should be experimented on and that is what is happening because they have absolutely zero science behind it, other than like lobotomies in mental patients, it brings in a ton of money for pharmaceutical companies and doctors. As after surgery, or chemical compounds, you will be more than
Likely on other meds to help those adverse effects of pain, discomfort, the fake parts never truly feeling permanent.

I look forward to your retort.
 
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I enjoyed Arcane on Netflix. That could be considered woke. It was certainly diverse, featured and lgbt relationship... the story was great though and it wasn't ham fisted. It worked.

This game achieved the opposite of Arcane, with its atrocious writing.
did they focus in diversity in their marketing?
 

Bernardougf

Member
I enjoyed Arcane on Netflix. That could be considered woke. It was certainly diverse, featured and lgbt relationship... the story was great though and it wasn't ham fisted. It worked.

This game achieved the opposite of Arcane, with its atrocious writing.
Im enjoying jojo bizarre adventure and this shit is gay and flamboyant as it gets.. and its awesome
 
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GymWolf

Gold Member
Just started the game. I am blown away by the hair physics. Holy shit. Great first cutscene too. I chose violence.

I hope the choices are more binary than the dumb Aloy choices where everything is another variant of peaceful lets hug it out nonsense. let me fuck shit up like this all game. let me punch a reporter in the fucking face. off to a good start.
Horizon was never a game about choices like a bioware title and from what i saw, aloy still has more range of choice compared to this game, at least you can be a snarky cunt if you want.
 

AGRacing

Member
My initial reaction to threads like these is to blow it off as people being intolerant. Looking at the screenshots in the op, I'm not seeing anything that offends me. Which adds to that point.

I'm making this post as Olive Branch to understand. Is it just because someone says their non binary or that someone can be transgender in the game that people find offensive? How is this not just intolerance?

I see a lot of people calling anyone who believes in transgenderism mentally ill. It seems like the same arguments people made against gay people a while back which, is another data point pointing my radar towards intolerance.

Could someone explain to me the issue people have with OP, and how it's not just intolerance?
Many GAY people are offended by this my friend. I have a kid with autism and I see ALL of this for what they and others do.

It’s a cult. A psycho-social contagion. A litmus test. A way for a white kid to disavow their privilege and become accepted in an urban nightmare of a school. It’s culture war capital currency. It’s brainwashing. It’s taking advantage of every confused child in the most vulnerable time of their lives. It’s an excuse for a man to hit a woman in the face or steal her world record or trophy. It’s propaganda. It’s a gender stereotype enforcing comedy (the only girls allowed to not feel ashamed for liking Barbie now are boys!). It’s genital mutilation of children. It’s a fucking joke.

Is that clear enough?
 

March Climber

Gold Member
Have you even watched the video?
It wasn't the video that didn't make sense to me, it was the question worded in your previous post.
The chick explain what is the best way to excuse yourself when you make a mistake because saying sorry is not enough or make everything about yourself...
Ok, now I see what you're trying to say. To build on what I was stating before, the way she is reacting fits that of a younger character, potentially a teen character, who has just experienced a moment of finding a part of their identity but has not fully and maturely found a way to express it. The idea of a teen saying something they feel themselves is serious and an older figure not understanding them but not being sure how to respond, is a thing that happens.

The problem is that it doesn't fit the adult character in question, the same way the term itself doesn't fit within the game. Both could be improved in the future if they simply take lessons from cartoons, that have already accomplished this with much better subtlety and nuance, when it comes to these types of scenes.

Again there are ways to introduce audiences to a sensitive concept they may be unfamiliar with, without using a hammer to do it.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
Many GAY people are offended by this my friend. I have a kid with autism and I see ALL of this for what they and others do.

It’s a cult. A psycho-social contagion. A litmus test. A way for a white kid to disavow their privilege and become accepted in an urban nightmare of a school. It’s culture war capital currency. It’s brainwashing. It’s taking advantage of every confused child in the most vulnerable time of their lives. It’s an excuse for a man to hit a woman in the face or steal her world record or trophy. It’s propaganda. It’s a gender stereotype enforcing comedy (the only girls allowed to not feel ashamed for liking Barbie now are boys!). It’s genital mutilation of children. It’s a fucking joke.

Is that clear enough?
Heh heh, I know who you are. Or at least the podcast you just listened to :p
 
I don't think so. But I'm guessing.
i watched Arcane because of the praise it received for its animation and writing, one year after it released. So i was not aware of any drama.. if any, the show had.

it was a masterclass in storytelling
The difference in the writing though. Damn. Skill up was right about it seeming like hr was in the writing room the entire time.

It's so sub par...
so, people online would consider Arcane woke, to me; being woke is using DEI as a marketing/PR beat.

the subpar quality of this game and it's "woke" nature plus using access media to create a narrative of success, makes it's immediate future (next month)
incredible important.
 

GymWolf

Gold Member
It wasn't the video that didn't make sense to me, it was the question worded in your previous post.

Ok, now I see what you're trying to say. To build on what I was stating before, the way she is reacting fits that of a younger character, potentially a teen character, who has just experienced a moment of finding a part of their identity but has not fully and maturely found a way to express it. The idea of a teen saying something they feel themselves is serious and an older figure not understanding them but not being sure how to respond, is a thing that happens.

The problem is that it doesn't fit the adult character in question, the same way the term itself doesn't fit within the game. Both could be improved in the future if they simply take lessons from cartoons, that have already accomplished this with much better subtlety and nuance, when it comes to these types of scenes.

Again there are ways to introduce audiences to a sensitive concept they may be unfamiliar with, without using a hammer to do it.
Sorry my english is not exactly oxford tier :messenger_pensive:
 
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