Luipadre
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Every race in this game looks just like humans. Elves are humans with pointy ears, dwarfs are humans but they are smaller and Qunaris are humans too but with horns lol.
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Dragon Age: Veilguard |OT| 'Oof': A non-buynary return to form
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Every race in this game looks just like humans. Elves are humans with pointy ears, dwarfs are humans but they are smaller and Qunaris are humans too but with horns lol.
Agent_Nobody
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To be fair I remember running my old PC with no siding/panels on the casing with a full size fan blasting it just to bring the heat down….I probably was a little overzealous in overclocking
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Hot5pur
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Played for about an hour this morning.
Game is damn good and visually quite nice. Combat is fun. Production values and voice acting good.
Haven't come across anything cringe yet, and the game's tone is not particularly cartoony as some reviewers were losing their minds over.
Reminds me a lot of Witcher 3 in many ways, but with far superior combat.
Game is damn good and visually quite nice. Combat is fun. Production values and voice acting good.
Haven't come across anything cringe yet, and the game's tone is not particularly cartoony as some reviewers were losing their minds over.
Reminds me a lot of Witcher 3 in many ways, but with far superior combat.
John Marston
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Pretty much my opinion after about 3 hours playtime.
I'm also romancing Neve because she looks like an escort I banged a couple of times a few years ago
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
I'm also romancing Neve because she looks like an escort I banged a couple of times a few years ago
Same for me with Taash
UnrealEck
Member
I've played for a few hours. Impressions so far:
- Dialogue is decent. Nothing offensive, preachy or pandering so far. But I am aware of what's to come.
- Voice acting is quite good. Nothing stellar but I'd say good.
- Sound design is great. The stereo channels isn't blending that well (meaning if someone's speaking and you turn the camera it jumps from ear to ear a bit too jarringly instead of blending more). 3D audio mode in-game is great and solves the aforementioned issue I had. Sound effects are very good quality and the music so far is decent but nothing amazing (I do know who is on the soundtrack so high hopes for later)
- Graphics are decent. The character models are quite high quality but their lip syncing is poor. Gameplay animation is good but not amazing. Cutscene animation is really good though.
- Combat is okay (playing on hardest). Nothing great. The talent tree looked good initially but it won't offer much intricate build variety. I am doubtful there will be much strategy in the gameplay. It is similar to Inquisition but more flashy and a little faster paced.
- Environments are very small so far and very linear. There's little sacks of gold lying in random areas which feel very video gamey. I preferred the more semi-open world of Inquisition. This feels less like an immersive world and more like a series of video game levels you just load into.
Complistic
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The furnace is definitely going to turn on less while playing this.
captainnapalm
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I like how everyone points out 'first few hours - no woke bs yet' like they don't know what's coming lol.
phant0m
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Similar thing w/ Star Wars Outlaws. Everyone was expecting it to be a 3rd person shooter a la Division. It's not, it's a stealth adventure RPG with lite shooting mechanics.
Hot5pur
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Is this about the push up scene? I think people thought like there was a lot more of that, but if it ends up being just that scene or maybe one or two more, but otherwise the rest of the game has no pandering and it's just having a bit of fun with inclusivity, then this whole thing is way overblown.
Personally the push up scene is a bit on the ridiculous side but it also depends how ridiculous the character in question is. The game made me laugh already with
Solas being called "Chuckles"
The character creator also had weird stuff like being able to give yourself acne or weird skin conditions - it kinda does try to be inclusive but it's also like "whatever" this is not a big deal.
I actually like the semi-jokey tone, it nails it very well without straying into looking like it's trying too hard.
It's kind of like Dragon Age: Marvel Edition. For some people that's going to work. Other want something darker and grittier that takes itself much more seriously.
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Complistic
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I'm sure it's coming, but you still get to decide who you want to speak to for the most part. So you can probably ignore anyone you don't want to talk to most of the time?
HogIsland
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this is 100% accurate, but also how fucking coddled does a person have to be to get triggered by any whiff of queerness in a videogame? real life has queer people in it. and it's not a new thing at all.
Heaven Angel
Member
Coming from EA this is great news, I've bought it and not refunding anymore.
UnrealEck
Member
It's not just a wiff though.
Zacfoldor
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I'mma try to keep this on topic here bro but ain't nobody muting shit because of anyone in the game, it isn't the people it is what they are saying or doing. We love all people.
I'm currently having a blast, and I get a feeling that there may be like one or two triggering convos later in the game but the vast majority of what I've played so far has been clean and pretty sweet. I'm glad I thought for myself on this one, but no need to diss people who may want to mute a part in a game.
Do you know how many times I would be watching some TV show with my folks and have to fast forward a sex scene or some lewd shit in front of older religious people? Are we coddled too? No, it's just that not everything is appropriate for everyone.
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Lukaku's First Touch
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Hopefully someone mods all the woke stuff out.
Ivory Samoan
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What i find more perplexing than anything.....is people thinking every Dragon Age didn't have 'woke' stuff all over the show, they all did: with the exception, of Origins.
Dynasty8
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There are levels to "woke". Don't mind some of it, BG3 is one of my favorite games. I do have a problem when it constantly berates you over the head like this game.
shubik
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That little coffe Mission in Treviso at night is a looker. Art direction is at times really good. I just wish there would be more real estate to explore. It’s just small corridors. I think that’s fine for the wilderness locations but in the city that kind of sucks. Would love to explore that place. It’s basically like in the Mass effect games.
A few hours in. SkillUp's review seems to be mostly accurate.
- Voice acting isn't good, at least not compared to any number of other modern AAA games. The Feminine 1 voice for rook slips between like three different accents, sometimes in the same sentence. Ali Hillis oscillates between delivering her lines like Harding is a child or just sounding like Liara.
- The dialogue feels like it was written by a fanfic author who makes sure to binge watch all the newest Marvel shows the day they hit Disney+
- There's a general feeling of "Baby's First RPG" across the board with the way the game holds your hand
- The puzzles aren't puzzles, yet your companions need to describe every fucking step of them like you're a god damn five year old.
- Combat is fine, though I find it somewhat difficult to really smoothly use my companions abilities in real time
- Lip syncing and overall facial animations are a decade behind the industry.
- It's obvious at one point this was going to be an actual sequel to DAI where you hunt Solas but they decided to scrap it in favor of what we got.
- Holy fuck who did these character designs?
Hot5pur
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It's interesting how I find nearly every single one of these bullet points an over exaggeration, and SkillUp's review at this point just seems like he wanted to find reasons to hate this game and then nit-picked it to hell.
To each their own I suppose, this game is fraught with politics so it's not surprising that people will be biased, even if subconsciously.
I do agree that there is a bunch of Disney+ / Marvel going on, but what does that mean? That the writing tries to be wholesome? Perhaps the gaming community is filled with traumatized people abused by their parents and seeing how people can treat each other nicely is just far too triggering.
I would also recommend people play on the difficulty above Adventurer, I'm assuming that would make it the equivalent of "hard". Otherwise the game is a bit on the easy side.
So far this game is more of an RPG-lite. It's more about the combat and story, and I like the characters, very chill fantasy game. Once the abilities open up for you and companions it's clear the combat system has a good bunch of depth to it. Seems integral to keeping up the damage and combo-ing enemies properly so they go down fast enough.
iorek21
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Yeah, the writing seems to be the biggest turn-off for me. The premisse alone seems very stupid. I watched the prologue yesterday on Youtube and they basically ignored Solas with a very poor excuse and put new villains out of nowhere all because of some misunderstanding.
This shit was written by amateurs?
Agent_Nobody
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The most shocking revelation about Solas so far (Solas first memory spoilers):
Solas had a freaking mullet!!!
Varric should never let him hear the end of this.
Solas had a freaking mullet!!!
Varric should never let him hear the end of this.
buenoblue
Member
Exactly, lot of people showing how narrow minded they are without even playing the game.
Just because this forum lets you say anything about anything, doesn't mean you should. You shouldn't need a moderator to tell you how to behave, you should moderate yourself.
If you don't like a game that's fair, but just move on and let the people who do have fun discussing it.
Alex11
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I was put off after the first trailer, and more so the more I saw, but I decided to give it a small chance, at least for the story, as I was curious about it.
So far don't really like anything about this game, but at the same time there's nothing that would categorise this game as shit, it's just mediocre.
The story is just there, Solas is being benched because reasons, it was one of the best characters of DA Inquisition and IMO the best villain of the series, well not really a villain, he was more nuanced, more with shades of grey, really poor move and wasted opportunity. Didn't find anything that bad in terms of writing, but this modern talk and vocabulary in a medieval fantasy setting is weird.
Visually is pleasing, interesting, is more stylized, not a bad, but not a great thing either. The best thing about it is the hair tech, it's really cool, character faces are really a hit and miss for me, more like animated ones, and the elves look poor so far, they look more like pretty goblins. The biggest gripe I have though is with the designs of Darkspawn, Ogres, Demons, Jesus Christ, those look atrocious.
The gameplay, playing on the 3rd difficulty and its weird, the encounters with the Pride Demon and Ogre were piss easy, remembered the ones in DA Origins and even Inquisition, there's no comparison. And the whole combat feels so floaty, there's no weight to it, there was a GOW comparison and it's evident, but having played recently the 2018 and Ragnarok, there's a huge difference between the 2 in quality and feeling.
And the whole pots between fights to replenish health its giving me a bad taste and makes all encounter feel a bit trivial, no incentive to explore to find extra potions or their management.
So far don't really like anything about this game, but at the same time there's nothing that would categorise this game as shit, it's just mediocre.
The story is just there, Solas is being benched because reasons, it was one of the best characters of DA Inquisition and IMO the best villain of the series, well not really a villain, he was more nuanced, more with shades of grey, really poor move and wasted opportunity. Didn't find anything that bad in terms of writing, but this modern talk and vocabulary in a medieval fantasy setting is weird.
Visually is pleasing, interesting, is more stylized, not a bad, but not a great thing either. The best thing about it is the hair tech, it's really cool, character faces are really a hit and miss for me, more like animated ones, and the elves look poor so far, they look more like pretty goblins. The biggest gripe I have though is with the designs of Darkspawn, Ogres, Demons, Jesus Christ, those look atrocious.
The gameplay, playing on the 3rd difficulty and its weird, the encounters with the Pride Demon and Ogre were piss easy, remembered the ones in DA Origins and even Inquisition, there's no comparison. And the whole combat feels so floaty, there's no weight to it, there was a GOW comparison and it's evident, but having played recently the 2018 and Ragnarok, there's a huge difference between the 2 in quality and feeling.
And the whole pots between fights to replenish health its giving me a bad taste and makes all encounter feel a bit trivial, no incentive to explore to find extra potions or their management.
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Agent_Nobody
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Already posted.
Denton
Member
Really good thoughts video from Cohh. Yeah the writing seems extremely bad, but we already knew it
From what I played so far, 100% agreed with him.
Hawk The Slayer
Member
I wish Guardian of the Galaxy did well, liked that game a lot more than I thought I will. Great characters and music and with some cool locations.
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jburdick7
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I love when Cohh does videos like this. I feel he does a very good job being able to step back and give a mature/objective take on things to the point that, even though he and I have different tastes, I feel like I’m getting a levelheaded opinion on things. If he’s saying the dialogue is bad then I know it’s going to drive me up a freaking wall because I have way less patience for culture war crap than he probably does.
I’ll probably wait until it’s on a deep, deep sale to pick it up since I do enjoy Dragon Age and have played the other games. That’s what I did for Inquisition and, while I didn’t like it near as much as the first two, for $10 it didn’t piss me off that badly lol.
Agent_Nobody
Member
Face wise it’s pretty robust (it has multiple complexion tones for acne lol) but it’s a little weird to work with. Like if I want bigger eyes, I need to find a pre-made head with bigger eyes instead of just being able to make the eyes bigger or change the eye type, but changing the pre-made head will change other parts of the face like the chin or nose, so it’s a bunch of back and forth, but figuring it out there is actually a lot you can do. Compared to Dragons Dogma 2 it’s maybe a little step back from that, but in DD2 it seemed like I had to do almost everything backwards, so if I wanted to make the eyes bigger I’d have to make the head smaller. This is at least a little more straightforward.
I feel I was able to do more with DD2 face wise, but not by much. The hair options though are leagues beyond DD2 in Veilguard….(like fucking finally a Bioware game that does long hair right).
Body wise it’s a mixed bag: it’s basically the Fallout 4 fat/buff/thin triangle and aside from that you have very limited options, but like the face thing; there are preset body types that serve as the base so the settings differ based on the preset body chosen.
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Gp1
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March Climber
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March Climber
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'It is vehicular writing, writing that wants to keep you moving forward'
You know, this might be kind of an odd take to some, but from all of the impressions it feels like this game is attempting to be more JRPG-like rather than WRPG-like. There are a lot of things being said about the game that match what you would find from a T for Teen anime-styled JRPG, including some choices leading to the same result and also what he's saying in the video about the storytelling and dialogue that feels like it's for a younger audience.
Again, his take just further proves that the game should have been called something else so that it wouldn't be so polarizing.
Interfectum
Member
Now that it's in the wild, be for real GAF. How much trans/woke/whatever shit is injected into this game? Are YouTubers cherry picking very specific parts out or does it seem to beat you over the head with it like Spider-man 2 did?
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nikos
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Wondering this as well. I'm only a couple of hours in but there has been nothing of the sort so far.
If it's just that ~30 minute side quest in a game that lasts dozens of hours, then I honestly don't care. Is Taash even one of the main characters that's always around, or can you just ignore her completely?
John Marston
GAF's very own treasure goblin
I just recruited Bellara as I'm still early game but curious about this as well.
Will check back in when I find out
Agent_Nobody
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vaibhavpisal
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Vehicular writing is done in Bethesda games.
I don’t think Bioware has ever done that.
BioWare games usually draw you in with the story.
Dunno whats up with that?
Agent_Nobody
Member
Well with Spider-man it was pretty much just the Danika pod-cast (you could turn it off) but yeah she was nails on chalkboard…90% of the time signing off with the ‘Byiiiiee!!!!’ Ugggh
Nothing like that in this so far but, I haven’t met Taash yet so…so far it was one instance where the main character looks at a mirror given to them by Varric and the main character reminisces about themselves and there’s an option to basically change the characters gender identity…I didn’t pick it so beyond that I don’t know how it affects dialogue…but it’s basically a take it or leave it. …And I’m pretty sure you can just change your sex and pronoun in the mirror without any extra drama.
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March Climber
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Probably different people within the same team name.
It was the Danika podcast and about 45 minutes of specific side content in a 20+ hour game. It's why I'm confused when people say it was present throughout the entire game. I don't know what game they played.
The only way it could have been present throughout the entire game is if that poster knew specifically which side missions they were and purposefully spread out playing them so that they could experience them throughout the entire game. I'm not even sure if it's even possible to do so with certain ones depending on the state of the world map.
vaibhavpisal
Member
Doubt it.
A studio would have to change its approach to design if they change that.
People never finish Bethesda games main quests due to vehicular writing. It doesn’t create urgency or sucks you in with the plot. It simply guides you to your next adventure. Just like any other side quests, which also do the same thing.
This never happens in Bioware games.
I have a feeling a lot of Youtubers make up a lot of BS to prove their point.