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[Cyberpunkd]

it will die soon, and it's already heavily discounted in other countries, so they can't even use full Steam price $60 to calculate revenue

That’s simply Steam regional pricing.

 

[peish]

go woke go broke! double top, fail to break out. bearish.

Its jover. huehue huehue

 

[Topher]

But 'woke' shit can be financially viable. Baldur's Gate 3. But that was a game that integrated progressive values in an effective manner, with good writing and characterisation.

See the point here? Anyone screaming for something to fail just because it features inclusivity and diversity is as big an asshat as anyone who roots for the same thing to succeed for the same reason.

The desire to see something fail should be because it is bad. Bad inclusivity and diversity is the problem we have right now.

Yeah, plenty of games with "woke" themes out there, but they don't stir up the masses because they are actually done really well. That doesn't seem to be the case for Veilguard. I'm still going to judge for myself, but the shit we have seen so far has been really bad.

 

[Plague Doctor]

go woke go broke! double top, fail to break out. bearish.

Its jover. huehue huehue

I'll have you know, tomorrow November 2nd is:

• Día de (los) Muertos
• All Souls Day
• National Deviled Eggs Day
• Broadcast Traffic Professional Day
• National Bison Day
• National (?) Ohio Day
• World Ballet Day

All celebrations with gamers at home and a lock for 150k+ CCU.

Unless it doesn't hit the number which means gamers were busy with the aforementioned holidays.

 

[LordBlodgett]

National (?) Ohio Day

But seriously, WTF is NATIONAL Ohio day......

 

[ValiantInstance]

Well, congratulations, you're as fucking stupid as everyone who wants to see it fail just to own the left wingers.

I disagree, the two things are not equal.

The chuds are advocating for ideology to be removed from games, not to have their own beliefs put in place instead. The leftist cannot help himself, agreeing to take this stuff out and push no message at all is not an option.

 

[samoilaaa]

But 'woke' shit can be financially viable. Baldur's Gate 3. But that was a game that integrated progressive values in an effective manner, with good writing and characterisation.

See the point here? Anyone screaming for something to fail just because it features inclusivity and diversity is as big an asshat as anyone who roots for the same thing to succeed for the same reason.

The desire to see something fail should be because it is bad. Bad inclusivity and diversity is the problem we have right now.

difference between BG3 and DA is that swen never said that he wants BG3's main focus to be LGBTQ proper representation , they focused on story , rpg mechanics , exploration

unlike DA https://thatparkplace.com/dragon-ag...gendermancer-claims-game-is-inherently-queer/

 

[manfestival]

But seriously, WTF is NATIONAL Ohio day......

its the day when 6 million people buy this game

 

[manfestival]

I disagree, the two things are not equal.

The chuds are advocating for ideology to be removed from games, not to have their own beliefs put in place instead. The leftist cannot help himself, agreeing to take this stuff out and push no message at all is not an option.

Oh you are one of those unironically using that chud term. What does it mean to you?
Also in this context, the two things are equal. Though I totally see your perspective but it clearly is equal in context. Your point is more of a sidepoint.

 

[StueyDuck]

Oh you are one of those unironically using that chud term. What does it mean to you?
Also in this context, the two things are equal. Though I totally see your perspective but it clearly is equal in context. Your point is more of a sidepoint.

Look at the profile.

Joins 2023, 50 posts.

Sometimes the plants and alts are easy to see and aren't worth the time.

 

[Darkness_Arises]

Look at the profile.

Joins 2023, 50 posts.

Sometimes the plants and alts are easy to see and aren't worth the time.

At this point, this game is definitely well short of sales expectations and there is no point in arguing with those who do not acknowledge this. The CCU is less than Monster Hunter World (not Wilds beta, old ass MHW). It's Joever or whatever kids say these days.

 

[ValiantInstance]

Look at the profile.

Joins 2023, 50 posts.

Sometimes the plants and alts are easy to see and aren't worth the time.

Lol, I've never been on this forum in my life. But keep making up your own headcanon. Am I a Russian bot too?

 

[Banjo64]

Dragon Age: The Veilguard Reviews

Unite the Veilguard and defy the gods in Dragon Age: The Veilguard, an immersive single-player RPG where you become the leader others believe in. When a pair of corrupt ancient gods break free from centuries of darkness, the vibrant land of Thedas needs someone they can count on. Rise as Rook...

www.metacritic.com

2.5 user score with over 1300 reviews.

I’ve seen some clips, the writing isn’t even befitting of a 3/10 game.

Yesterday I saw this tweet by Switch Up which surprised me a little, as they are very laid back.





In the X feed Hookshot clarify that they aren’t owned by ZDM, but that ZDM do have a minority shareholding.

That aside, it’s still an interesting rabbit hole.

Western governments need to get a grip on legacy media. The larger companies who have their tendrils in everything present 5 fingers of the same hand as separate entities. They are trying to condition you.

Ziff Davis - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

They own even more than I listed.

And guess who the largest shareholder is in ZDM…



BlackRock.

 

[PeteBull]

I'm sure it will break 100k after the monster hunter beta. It's just been a busy week.

Sure sure, and that 5'1 broke bum who is homeless is just one week of pulling a supermodel girlfriend, it simply was busy week for him too, obviously

 

[cormack12]

I dunno, I kind of think the MHW and Nuketown excuses are a bit weak (I know some people are taking the mick). Like these fans have waited 10 years for the next installment, I don't think they would go play a beta and I'm not even sure of the true overlap there between playerbases.

They don't even call it by name on there. Just "The Wizard Game". So fucking juvenile. The game's probably sold close to 30m copies by now, and these people still think their opinions from the arse-end of the gaming community bear any relevance.

I always found it funny how the way they chose to refer to the game was always gendered in itself. Like I made a witch in Legacy, but no we have to call it the wizard game. Unconscious bias runs deep in the truly bigoted.

Either way, I think EA and Bioware would be expecting at least to rival Capcom and Bethesda for their flagship RPGs. This looks to have fallen way short. I have expectations of certain games and this is not a DA game, from art to pathetic writing.

And I played Tell Me Why, am playing LiS now and while I still think the ideology stuff in those games is a lot stronger than the original DONTNOD titles, it's to be expected so I'm not hung up on it, though I can kind of easily trace the descent and in my opinion it does negatively impact the game underneath.

It's a shame, as someone who liked Inquisition, I was really looking forward to the next part of Solas's story.

 

[PeteBull]

I dunno, I kind of think the MHW and Nuketown excuses are a bit weak (I know some people are taking the mick). Like these fans have waited 10 years for the next installment, I don't think they would go play a beta and I'm not even sure of the true overlap there between playerbases.



I always found it funny how the way they chose to refer to the game was always gendered in itself. Like I made a witch in Legacy, but no we have to call it the wizard game. Unconscious bias runs deep in the truly bigoted.

Either way, I think EA and Bioware would be expecting at least to rival Capcom and Bethesda for their flagship RPGs. This looks to have fallen way short. I have expectations of certain games and this is not a DA game, from art to pathetic writing.

And I played Tell Me Why, am playing LiS now and while I still think the ideology stuff in those games is a lot stronger than the original DONTNOD titles, it's to be expected so I'm not hung up on it, though I can kind of easily trace the descent and in my opinion it does negatively impact the game underneath.

It's a shame, as someone who liked Inquisition, I was really looking forward to the next part of Solas's story.

Same here bro, but what can we do, apparently bioware thinks sane's ppl money stink and we all get converted to their delusional agenda.
I guess its time for more push ups

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I disagree, the two things are not equal.

The chuds are advocating for ideology to be removed from games, not to have their own beliefs put in place instead. The leftist cannot help himself, agreeing to take this stuff out and push no message at all is not an option.

Advocating for the removal of the ideology, is your ideology.

 

[PeteBull]

Advocating for the removal of the ideology, is your ideology.

Imagine ur beloved playstation franchise infested with devout christian or muslim takes, made in srs way, telling u to repent for ur sins and preaching to u at every chance it got, would u be ok with it, or would u critique it like we do to DA:V?
Just giving this example so u can emphatize a lil

 

[GHG]

Western governments need to get a grip on legacy media. The larger companies who have their tendrils in everything present 5 fingers of the same hand as separate entities. They are trying to condition you.

That's just the thing though, it's by design.

It's far easier to police and push propoganda when there are really only a handful of companies putting stuff out there.

If you want a point of comparison, look at the number of media companies that are allowed in any political environment that is defined as a dictatorship. What you're describing is what the West do best, it's all about giving you the illusion that there are a ton of different voices and that you have a ton of choice, but once you start digging you'll soon see the reality is very very different.

 

[StueyDuck]

Lol, I've never been on this forum in my life. But keep making up your own headcanon. Am I a Russian bot too?

account created in Ocotber 2023, only active in posting in September 2024... whatever you say buddy

 

[ValiantInstance]

account created in Ocotber 2023, only active in posting in September 2024... whatever you say buddy

Took me like 6 months to get approved.

I'm currently top comment on NikTek's video on Veilguard. This isn't an alt.

 

[Astray]

The goal posts have a life of their own here.

I think at this point a live tag has been thoroughly earned.

 

[Aurelius]

 

[LegendOfKage]

I disagree, the two things are not equal.

The chuds are advocating for ideology to be removed from games, not to have their own beliefs put in place instead. The leftist cannot help himself, agreeing to take this stuff out and push no message at all is not an option.

I think having a trans character in a game like this would have worked much better with different dialog and vocabulary. The words "trans" or "non-binary" belong in a Dragon Age game about as much as "drip," "on fleek," or "okay boomer."

But with better writing, they could have definitely still told a story of someone who didn't feel comfortable with their gender. As is usually the case, the issue isn't the subject of what's written, the issue is how it's written.

 

[GnomeChimpsky]

But with better writing, they could have definitely still told a story of someone who didn't feel comfortable with their gender. As is usually the case, the issue isn't the subject of what's written, the issue is how it's written.

That's what sci fi and fantasy has always done, using different races, cultures etc to make more or less subtle allusions to real world issues. In 2024 subtlety and nuance is dead though so we get "I'm trans bitch!" instead. Which is the main reason I'm hoping this game fails, so we can get back to people with actual talent writing stories.

 

[Kikorin]

This is even worst than my already low expectations. I thought it would have flopped, but just because of the name "Dragon Age" I expected at least a decent peak at launch. Seems not, but this series is dead anyway, so time to move on.

 

[StereoVsn]

Having diversity, gay relationships, and inclusivity in a game is not what defines something as woke, and speaking for myself, I don't want them removed from games, media or anywhere else.

However, preaching idealogy to the audience and/or shoehorning in identity politics as a pillar of a product is what's considered "woke" in the context of games. This is the "bad inclusivity and diversity" you mentioned being a problem and it's what people are rooting to fail. Most people don't consider Baldur's Gate 3 woke at all despite the game integrating "progressive values" because they aren't beat over the head with it.

Unfortunately, there are often knee-jerk reactions towards what might be perceived as woke because we're in a time where people have grown hyper-sensitive and biases are getting out of hand. But to be honest, I haven't seen much people on GAF screaming for products to fail just for featuring inclusion and diversity(although I'm sure there are some people here biting their tongues).

Yep, games like BG3, Cyberpunk (despite being banned on purple forum), the “Wizard Game” (despite banned on purple forum), Life is Strange (first game especially), and more all have progressive themes.

Vast majority of gamers like these games and don’t mind progressive themes at all. And then you got shit like Concord, Veilguard, Spider-Man 2 and more just push stupid crap in your face. That’s the main difference.

 

[Germuso]

Well it's saturday...It must reach 200k

 

[StereoVsn]

go woke go broke! double top, fail to break out. bearish.

Its jover. huehue huehue

I mean to be fair it’s 8:30AM on East Coast and 5:30AM on West Coast in US. Barely anyone would be playing in NA.

The peak for today should be around 4-6pm EST so you will have European and NA players in game. That said, I doubt it will crack 100K overall, but it is conceivable.

 

[Kotaro]

280K asked for refund

Can I anyone confirm this? how to get to Steam refund request info page?

 

[ElFenomeno]

Thats the total number across all games. But yeah, I bet most of those are DAV.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

It’s just barely outpacing where it was 24 hours ago. That’s a really bad sign for the game’s first Saturday.


^ guessing that’s site wide across all Steam games. But yeah a big chunk of those are probably Veilguard considering it was the best selling game the last few days + you can’t get a refund after playing over 2 hours.

 

[Kacho]

Right now it’s performing like a years late PlayStation port. Let’s see how high it goes today…

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Right now it’s performing like a years late PlayStation port. Let’s see how high it goes today…

Yeah and silly me, I was forgetting the Dia de Los Muertos effect. Literally a billion Latinxes are busy with an entire weekend of festivities. Should see a huge spike once the celebrations wind down.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

 

[peish]

I mean to be fair it’s 8:30AM on East Coast and 5:30AM on West Coast in US. Barely anyone would be playing in NA.

The peak for today should be around 4-6pm EST so you will have European and NA players in game. That said, I doubt it will crack 100K overall, but it is conceivable.

Oh chud, it’s trending upwards now, a bounce from the bottom. Seems range bound and directionless. Im still shorting this woke crap!

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

BREAKING NEWS: we are proud to announce that Dragon Age: Veilguard is now the most-refunded BioWare game and indeed the most-refunded single player EA game of ALL TIME.

 

[Mr Moose]

280K asked for refund

Can I anyone confirm this? how to get to Steam refund request info page?

That's just Ass of Can Whooping

 

[CharmingCharlie]

I believe that steam refund figure is for ALL of steam not just Dragon Age Failguard.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Yep, games like BG3, Cyberpunk (despite being banned on purple forum), the “Wizard Game” (despite banned on purple forum), Life is Strange (first game especially), and more all have progressive themes.

Vast majority of gamers like these games and don’t mind progressive themes at all. And then you got shit like Concord, Veilguard, Spider-Man 2 and more just push stupid crap in your face. That’s the main difference.

Absolutely. Sci fi and fantasy have been a medium for exploring “the other” for a long time. Just look at stuff like X-Men, Blade Runner, Star Trek, etc

The big difference is that people used to know how to fucking WRITE. They studied the classics, they understood the hero’s journey, they learned how to explore themes with subtlety and how to put the story/characters first.

Nowadays they view everything through this postmodernist worldview and they only know how to write propaganda. They have absolutely no idea how to explore some idea except by beating you over the head with it. It seriously reminds me of young children’s educational programming.

 

[Raven117]

Absolutely. Sci fi and fantasy have been a medium for exploring “the other” for a long time. Just look at stuff like X-Men, Blade Runner, Star Trek, etc

The big difference is that people used to know how to fucking WRITE. They studied the classics, they understood the hero’s journey, they learned how to explore themes with subtlety and how to put the story/characters first.

Nowadays they view everything through this postmodernist worldview and they only know how to write propaganda. They have absolutely no idea how to explore some idea except by beating you over the head with it. It seriously reminds me of young children’s educational programming.

This.

And man, looking at some older young children’s educational programming, it’s light years better and more subtle than some “mature” stuff we have now.

 

[PleazureDome]

Everyone's favorite analyst, Michael Pachter weighs in on Dragon Age and what it needs to sell. He believes it will sell between $4-6 million and if it sells less than 4M time to worry.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

The easy way to trace refunds is by comparing different time frames, if possible.

 

[Edder1]

So it is then, a woke garbage that access gaming media tried to hype up but is ultimately failing for a game for its size and budget. Let this be another example to all those who say that woke games not selling well in 2024 is a myth. Example after example and these foolish people still wanna pretend that this ain't the case.

The only way they're getting away with inserting woke ideology into games is by taking already popular franchises and making sequels with this propaganda. This won't work for long though as people become aware.

 

[AtomicStarving]

2,132 Game Owners on PSN Profile IS REALLY REALLY BAD FOR A LAUNCH GAME, This Big.

OOF

 

[StereoVsn]

Everyone's favorite analyst, Michael Pachter weighs in on Dragon Age and what it needs to sell. He believes it will sell between $4-6 million and if it sells less than 4M time to worry.

I can’t believe it but I agree with Pachter. Considering dev time, restarts, AAA budget, marketing and so on, this has to have cost around $150 mil minimum and $200+ mil wouldn’t be surprising.

So 4 mil sales to just cover cost seems reasonable. And of course you have the missed opportunity cost. Even if the game makes back dev and marketing costs, shareholders and upper management aren’t looking for games to just break even.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

2,132 Game Owners on PSN Profile IS REALLY REALLY BAD FOR A LAUNCH GAME, This Big.

OOF

Lol that site is completely worthless

 

[Darkkahn]

Lol that site is completely worthless

Ur worthless.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Ur worthless.

Stfu you little shit

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

The only way they're getting away with inserting woke ideology into games is taking already popular franchises and making sequels with this propaganda. This won't work the second time though once people are aware.

Yup, you could make a list a mile long of franchises (not just limited to gaming) that have been destroyed this way. And these parasites are running out of hosts to feed off of.

Just watch. BioWare is going to do the exact same thing with the next Mass Effect and run that series into the ground, then after that they’ll do the same thing to Jade Empire. Then they’ll be out of franchises to ruin.