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FANT4STIC 4OUR |OT| Fantastic 4/10
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But why
good duddes, always make me laugh
Pai Pai Master
Banned
I'll see it eventually but I'd be surprised if I liked it more than the most recent run that ended up being canned. It wasn't awful but no one read it.
Well, I have no expectations. Ergo it can't disappoint me as much as Thor 2, which I had expectations for. And if it is worse, dear God... DOOM WILL FALL UPON US ALL.
ScreenSplitter
Member
Dude it's the cast. Of COURSE they want a sequel lol
Critic earlier said Thor's 2 villain was Darth Vader compared to Doom Hacker. Just in case you wanted to start getting some expectations.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
lol..why you gotta do that to the man?
No joke, Thor 2's villain comes across as superior to this movie's Doom.
... And I say that with Doctor Doom being my absolute favorite supervillain of all time.
You vile cad... if this is true I will cry during my video review.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
At least Malekith drove the plot forward. Here it sounds like Doom just sort of appears at the end.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Fucking hell that would be amazing
Glass Rebel
Member
Books of Do-
Straight adaptation, no deviation whatsoever.
My man!
AHA-Lambda
Member
I wish I was joking. Sure, he was forgettable, but Malekith was at least a leader of his people, a mastermind schemer who spent years plotting the destruction and takeover of his adversaries, all before manipulating his opponents into granting him the power he needed to do so.
... Doom (sorry, "Domashev") is just a grumpy, arrogant computer nerd who becomes a victim of circumstances, gets his suit fused to his body, then supposedly goes crazy after being left behind in the weird space dimension and then going on an Akira-rip-off psychic rampage for reasons in the last 10 minutes of the film.
Doctor Doom is quite literally an afterthought in this film, both in concept and execution. At LEAST Malekith was actively moving the plot forward.
Nathan_Drake
Member
Can we use this as the source material? If you have not read these I highly recommend. In my mind this is the origin story of Doom. The art is also great. A Doom bio-pic would be infinitely greater than any Fan 4 movie. You can add them in some battle scenes or whatever.
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Straight adaptation, no deviation whatsoever.
My man
The thing is that I don't trust the MCU with Doom, at all. They get Loki right only in as much as Tom H is a great actor. He carries some seriously shitty material with abloom. And Doom's even more complex. If the MCU barely gets Loki right, and every other villain is uninspired, I don't think much of their chances at nailing Doom - who is the crown jewel of comic-book 'villains' next to Luthor.
Straight adaptation, no deviation whatsoever.
Can we use this as the source material? If you have not read these I highly recommend. In my mind this is the origin story of Doom. The art is also great. A Doom bio-pic would be infinitely greater than any Fan 4 movie. You can add them in some battle scenes or whatever.
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My man
Believe these people,, they speak the truth
Pai Pai Master
Banned
The thing is Loki had a big part in a solo movie all to himself, no other Marvel villain has had the chance to develop over multiple films.
In a perfect world we would have gotten Ultron in an Ant-Man or Iron Man movie prior to AoU so his turning evil had more impact.
In order to to Doom the justice he deserves he'd need a 2-parter movie like Thanos, or give him his own solo movie. given the fact that it would be suicide to release a movie with Fantastic Four in the title for the next ten years, the best thing Marvel could do if they got the rights back would definitely be a Doom solo flick that covers his origin along with the FF, and then focuses on the rise of Latveria.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
A Dr.Doom movie to launch a potential Fantastic Four reboot would be pretty inspired.
i think Marvel does with it villains what they do for a reason.
Ronan, Malekith, Iron Monger, Whiplash, etc
All these dudes are story villains, at best arc villains. Usually minions for bigger badder dudes
Thanos, and Loki? they are minimum arc villains and always event villains.
I don't ahve any fear with Doom in Marvel's hands
basically there are levels to this shit.
Ronan, Malekith, Iron Monger, Whiplash, etc
All these dudes are story villains, at best arc villains. Usually minions for bigger badder dudes
Thanos, and Loki? they are minimum arc villains and always event villains.
I don't ahve any fear with Doom in Marvel's hands
basically there are levels to this shit.
fallengorn
Bitches love smiley faces
The problem with MCU villains are that they're written to only support one movie. You're opinion on how good MCU Loki is aside, Tom Hiddleston has more to work with then every other villain because they've needed him for multiple films. It also doesn't hurt that he's personally tied to Thor.
So really, how good of a Doom we would get in the MCU is down to how much they would use him and how tightly they want to tie him with that cursed Reed Richards.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Yeah I mean you've got endless solo films to bring them in and develop them over time after showing their origin in a Doom movie. They absolutely deserve their own film eventually though, but Marvel could go straight into the weird and crazy stuff instead of retreading the origin.
Hell, introduce them as scientists in a Spiderman flick, Pete can meet Johnny and Reed and then find out they were involved in some horrible accident. Show them again in Inhumans having understood and come to terms with their powers and that they are now acting as ambassadors to new civilizations like Attilan and Atlantis.
The problem is that Thanos absolutely sucks in the MCU so far. Not one victory, tells rather than shows, sits in his chair like a chicken legged bitch. Incomprehensible as Loki is, he at least does/achieves shit. Thanos gets punked out by fucking Ronan Space Keaton for fuck sake - in a game of cosmic steroids no less.
Lime_In_Da_Coconut
Banned
Is this still expected to open at $40 million?
I'm finding that very unlikely right now...
I'm finding that very unlikely right now...
Thanos is playing the long game, and they going to give this dude 5 hours, closer to 6. Don't want to fatigue people.
Hardly. Ronan was just beneath him.
You think the entire Nova Corps is going to just hand their gem over? Thanos is going to have to take an entire army on to get that one.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Yeah I mean if they gave Thanos any more screentime than he already had, people would throw a shitfit. People were already mad about the building up they did in AOU and that was pretty minimal.
He got up off his chair, what more do you want? His next appearance he will undoubtedly be kicking ass.
SchrodingerC
Member
Oh FOX, you giant bag of dicks. Galactus and Silver Surfer shall forever suffer within movie limbo.
Imagine this, for a moment.
The Avengers face a problem (say, Thanos). They're outmatched, outsmarted, outnumbered. They're losing, badly. They need help.
... And the leader of the nation of Latveria extends his hand to aid them.
Doom marches onto the scene with a commanding presence and a plan of action. With no alternatives, the heroes rely on his aid and guidance. His intelligence, skill, and authority pushes back their adversary, turns the tide, and saves the world.
... And leaving the world open for conquest, its heroes worn and beaten from the battle, as he assumes sole responsibility over the earth.
All hail Marvel Phase 4: Doomworld.
There's still a chance to incorporate Silver Surfer in their gritty reboot universe.
He could be a dude who's the ultimate pro-surfer in New York with a surfboard spray-painted chrome and a matching chrome wetsuit with it. The Fantastic Four have to top him in a surfing contest if they're going to convince him to rally support to start a clean up crew for the beach that's becoming unsafe for fellow citizens due to all that trash and broken glass.
TrumanBurbank
Member
I can't believe Devin Faraci gave it a fresh rating. Doesn't that guy whine over Nolan films and JJ Abrams Star Trek all the time?
Gordon Shumway
Banned
He's friends with Trank.
Kudos. I would love to see a Death of Superman Lives style documentary on this film's production. Wish they hadn't cut out the body horror angle as it's probably the most unique thing the movie had going for it.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
He really IS the bad guy.
unholyrevenger72
Banned
Marvel uses C- Tier Villains on purpose to avoid fanboy backlash when they change the character to be relevant. The ONE time (Madarin) they do it with a B- Tier villain the fanboys fucking hate it. With this in mind if Marvel gets Doom back, expect them to play up his Mommy issues, a-la-Loki's Daddy issues, and don't expect him to be an evil Dictator either.
You obviously feel some type of way.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
GIVE ME YOUR COUNTRIES
Sure, Doom. Sure. Will do.
THANK YOU
Not a problem.
Sure, Doom. Sure. Will do.
THANK YOU
Not a problem.
unholyrevenger72
Banned
The english is too broken for me to figure what this is suppose to mean.
i think it might mean "You obviously feel the same way," but "type" just throws me for a loop
Glass Rebel
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