Divebombs. Divebombs. Skoje divebombs.
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Final Fantasy XIV |OT6| Casino Royale
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Divebombs. Divebombs. Skoje divebombs.
All player skill being equal, you're only going to be somewhat justified if there are two BRDs as you can almost make up for the damage difference via the piercing damage debuff.
tlldr: go mnk or nin
Well I'm looking at where top DRG are at 110, and adjusting a bit to compensate for the crappy set of 110 gear DRG were dealt during 2.2. Monks still come out ahead, but I'm assuming that the gap would be somewhat smaller if their gear had more determination.
Keep in mind though, that there is a pretty big gap between 1st, 2nd, and 3rd tier Dragoon, and 2nd tier monks sometimes outperform 1st tier Dragoon.
I don't want to dump on the class too much, because there really are a lot of excellent Dragoons out there. However, the class needs to be adjusted somehow to make them more attractive to endgame raid groups.
Nothing major mind you. As previous buffs on other classes have shown, buffs that look pretty subtle on paper can radically change job balance.
Still....
So with my Warrior at level 50 now, I put on a bunch of Gloam Accessories (though I had to use some sol to buy them along with rowena tokens) and put on some other gear/bought the sol wep/made it into the i10 version.
War is now at ilvl 89 which isn't too bad. Tried tanking in ST, didn't MT too much outside of some attempts at provoking (>_> failed attempts, other tanks kept onto the bosses better) or when the MT died.
Right now, the things I have to work on is better use of CDs and wrath control and more importantly (though this goes hand in hand with the previous point), learn to not panic so much when I get hurt big. It makes me use CDs when I don't need to.
Still I'll work on improving my tanking and we'll see how it goes. Dreading tanking anything like HM primals or whatever that requires me to do better (since ST, it's easy enough to get by even if you're not that great at your job).
Huh, going to have lo look into this when I want a break from leveling my miner
War is now at ilvl 89 which isn't too bad. Tried tanking in ST, didn't MT too much outside of some attempts at provoking (>_> failed attempts, other tanks kept onto the bosses better) or when the MT died.
Right now, the things I have to work on is better use of CDs and wrath control and more importantly (though this goes hand in hand with the previous point), learn to not panic so much when I get hurt big. It makes me use CDs when I don't need to.
Still I'll work on improving my tanking and we'll see how it goes. Dreading tanking anything like HM primals or whatever that requires me to do better (since ST, it's easy enough to get by even if you're not that great at your job).
Huh, going to have lo look into this when I want a break from leveling my miner
tiggerkiddo
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lol HM primals are a total joke.
Oh man, I have to mention.
I saw my first horse drop yesterday. Was crazy, one of the LS I talk to asked me to queue inprogress for gardua ex since the DF tank couldn't tank for the life of him and the DF melee were simply dying over and over. It was an amazing run, my LS mates were the two healers and the other tank. We ended up getting 3 LB3's. Three. Motherfucking LB3's in Garuda EX.
All three were used for the healer LB. In the last LB, literally everyone but a healer and I had fallen over dead and we were like that's it, it's over since the healer had like a speck of life left. Dude had shot the LB3 off early and it hit just as he was about to die. Garuda was at less than 1% when she died right before she transitioned into the invulnerable phase. DoTs took her out with half the group dead again save for healers and tanks and it was like Jesus Christ how did we survive like 10 chirada/suprana rotations without DPS.
Probably the worst run I've ever seen bar none.
We ended up getting Nightmare though. so... there's that.
I saw my first horse drop yesterday. Was crazy, one of the LS I talk to asked me to queue inprogress for gardua ex since the DF tank couldn't tank for the life of him and the DF melee were simply dying over and over. It was an amazing run, my LS mates were the two healers and the other tank. We ended up getting 3 LB3's. Three. Motherfucking LB3's in Garuda EX.
All three were used for the healer LB. In the last LB, literally everyone but a healer and I had fallen over dead and we were like that's it, it's over since the healer had like a speck of life left. Dude had shot the LB3 off early and it hit just as he was about to die. Garuda was at less than 1% when she died right before she transitioned into the invulnerable phase. DoTs took her out with half the group dead again save for healers and tanks and it was like Jesus Christ how did we survive like 10 chirada/suprana rotations without DPS.
Probably the worst run I've ever seen bar none.
We ended up getting Nightmare though. so... there's that.
Now fall.
I hope one of the carries got it.
You don't even understand, it was so incredibly bad. We were all on mumble just laughing for a good few minutes afterwards at the absurdity of it all.
My tank LS partner got it, we all expected a DPS to get it for sure.
I'm a newish 50 tank, getting hit hard bringing my HP down can make me panic.
It might be a joke for people who are used to it but I'd rather not end up dead from being overconfident on content I haven't done on this job.
Don't worry, while the veteran tanks are all laughing now, they're all shitting their pants in new coil runs too. That feeling never really goes away till you have something on farm mode... or run in DF with a bad healer. Then you're just numb to the pain.
tiggerkiddo
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Even when I'm dying to trash in ST or a boss in ST because my healers are idiots, I just shrug it off. As long as you're doing what you can to mitigate damage
you haven't seen the 2 HP "OMG WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO" moments
T12 drops 135 shield, poetics spent on BiS items
dark_chris
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I remember it took me 52 tries to get Titan HM down back in 2.0-2.1ish. Good lord..
lol ok. Prepare to get your shield drop after 3.0 drops.
Re: that earlier tank rotation discussion, I'm having a similar issue. Maybe it's because people are a couple of levels ahead but even spamming flash / savage blade / shield lob, a DPS class occasionally gets more enmity. It'd be good if I could spam flash more but MP needs = riot blade = they get targeted for a couple of attacks.
Regardless at least I can find players now using duty finder. Rip thm ;_;7
Regardless at least I can find players now using duty finder. Rip thm ;_;7
I can still get the shield later if it doesn't drop, it just doesn't make sense to spend it on things that are going to be replaced first
Finally hit i110 on Bard (my i100 pants canceled out by i120 boots.) Couple thousand XP short of 43 on PLD; should be set for DD spam by the weekend to finish it off. Am slowly blowing all of my money on various stupid things and gathering gear. Running out of goals.
Honestly once you get Shield Oath aggro becomes a joke. It got really frustrating around or shortly after Halatali for me, it got better once I got the third step in the combo, and the Shield Oath it's just like smash a few buttons, maybe flash, whatever who cares. Two ninjas going all out on opposite targets might require rotating the combo a little but I've had a much easier time post-40. I was expecting Stone Vigil to be a nightmare based on my memories of it as DPS/heals, but it wound up not being a big deal.
Honestly once you get Shield Oath aggro becomes a joke. It got really frustrating around or shortly after Halatali for me, it got better once I got the third step in the combo, and the Shield Oath it's just like smash a few buttons, maybe flash, whatever who cares. Two ninjas going all out on opposite targets might require rotating the combo a little but I've had a much easier time post-40. I was expecting Stone Vigil to be a nightmare based on my memories of it as DPS/heals, but it wound up not being a big deal.
Care to provide an example?
Never panic in Titan and just remember to try and time your defensive cooldowns. Have faith in your healers too. Often i've dropped to near death, only to be fully revitalized in the nick of time.
Take me with you for DD spam!
So my group finally downed T9. We were getting to 30% and wiping before the first divebombs, but then it clicked and went from 30% to 0% with no deaths so we didn't face the horror stories about wiping at 1%.
Feels so good. Mostly because this is a recently formed static and we have been playing together for two weeks. Prior to that only three of us had experience up to P3.
Let's see how this goes with echo. But unless they seriously nerf the mechanics it(s going to be a much bigger roadblock than T5.
Feels so good. Mostly because this is a recently formed static and we have been playing together for two weeks. Prior to that only three of us had experience up to P3.
Let's see how this goes with echo. But unless they seriously nerf the mechanics it(s going to be a much bigger roadblock than T5.
It's sad that crafters have to start a black-list of sorts just so avoid feeding the competition. Thanx for the heads-up, 4* Crafts are not easy and it takes an insane amount of time and resources to get to this level of crafting.
T10 4% wipe yesterday T_T
Hope we can down it tonight, some people already have a poetic/shiva stuff so that should help a little.
As a monk I'm TP starved halfway through the fight, making my dps dive from 450 to 410ish. For those who have cleared it, does your bard prioritize TP song ? requiem (we have a blm and a smn) ? (not even asking for mana song
). I think our does maybe two TP song but we may ask him for more tonight, even our tanks were starved.
Hope we can down it tonight, some people already have a poetic/shiva stuff so that should help a little.
As a monk I'm TP starved halfway through the fight, making my dps dive from 450 to 410ish. For those who have cleared it, does your bard prioritize TP song ? requiem (we have a blm and a smn) ? (not even asking for mana song
). I think our does maybe two TP song but we may ask him for more tonight, even our tanks were starved.This game is so much better in Japanese I wish I had changed earlier. I can actually watch the cut scenes now without cringing. Also I don't know why everyone is hating on Sastasha HM; I thought it was alright. I didn't cap poetics last week so now I'm behind everyone :-( but the BLM gear actually looks great for once. It won't even need glamour.
Time for you to go ninja.T10 4% wipe yesterday T_T
Hope we can down it tonight, some people already have a poetic/shiva stuff so that should help a little.
As a monk I'm TP starved halfway through the fight, making my dps dive from 450 to 410ish. For those who have cleared it, does your bard prioritize TP song ? requiem (we have a blm and a smn) ? (not even asking for mana song
T10 4% wipe yesterday T_T
Hope we can down it tonight, some people already have a poetic/shiva stuff so that should help a little.
As a monk I'm TP starved halfway through the fight, making my dps dive from 450 to 410ish. For those who have cleared it, does your bard prioritize TP song ? requiem (we have a blm and a smn) ? (not even asking for mana song
Hmm.. not sure but i think we do foe's in the add phase and after that we got requiem.
Altho our Monk switched to ninja and proven to do 430 dps steady and is able to buff the group damage with vulnerability for magic damage and restore TP to me (WAR) or the BRD.
Last night's run was so baby smooth and zero mistakes that the healers had tons of mana and didn't need ballad.
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First TP song is after the first Adds but I'm not sure it's a full one, maybe that's our problem. We will see how it goes, I guess we just have to git gud
(and no, I'm too lazy to level a new class for now, the nexus burned me, I want to go back to fishing )Pyros_Eien
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First TP song is after the first Adds but I'm not sure it's a full one, maybe that's our problem. We will see how it goes, I guess we just have to git gud
Then you get someone else in your static to level ninja and you spam them in tells for Goad. Works either way ^^. Are you using Fracture? Could probably drop it out of rotation and not take too much of a DPS hit while gaining a lot of TP. That or itemization with too much skillspeed, but fights with no breaks, I think it's kinda expected for monks to run out of TP at some point. Even Ninjas eventually do if the fight is really long(though it takes longer).
Does anyone have a good guide for high end crafting? It all seems a little confusing especially trying to meet the control and craftsmanship requirements in order to do the master craft stuff. I'm mostly just looking for something that explains what the best gear and materia stats are to reach those kind of requirements.I'm focusing mostly on leather worker right now.
Pyros_Eien
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I used this for materia caps and what not:
http://www.ffxivguild.com/ff14-arr-doh-crafting-gear-guide-endgame-l50-maximum-materia-melds/
Though you absolutely want to look at the information provided then figure out stuff on your own. Their recommended melds were terrible(it was 2.3 melds though), at least in terms of money spent, such as using only 3melds with 2 IVs when you could use 4melds with 2xIII and II to reach the same amount for like 1/4 of the price even accounting for lower meld chance and so on. I ended up making a shitty spreadsheet with the prices and the stats of the various pieces of gear to see what I could get away with to save money, how to reach caps and so on.
In general you want to follow the old progression, but I'd recommend going straight into the new accessories/belt, they're a bit expensive but they're used on every crafting class and unlike gathering melds which are only useful for the very last thing they added in 2.4, they are useful. If you have a lot of money you can skip some parts, notably going straight for the new offhand would be a massive jump that would let you skip some melds temporarily and still get the first master books and craft stuff for artisan weapon/helm.
Hum I think we do an other foes after the second adds, that's probably our problem. Our RL (smn) is like "burst !!!" and there I am with <100 TP
Nop not using fracture, I find it too much a hassle and a too high TP cost, I use it in very special occasions, like full doting T7 boss before switching to adds.
I'm thinking of dropping Touch of Death on Adds phases for T10 though, that should lower my pool usage if switching to a TP song after second adds is not enough. Thanks for the insights !
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First TP song is after the first Adds but I'm not sure it's a full one, maybe that's our problem. We will see how it goes, I guess we just have to git gud
Sorry
I use foe again during second adds too.Hum I think we do an other foes after the second adds, that's probably our problem. Our RL (smn) is like "burst !!!" and there I am with <100 TP
Nop not using fracture, I find it too much a hassle and a too high TP cost, I use it in very special occasions, like full doting T7 boss before switching to adds.
I'm thinking of dropping Touch of Death on Adds phases for T10 though, that should lower my pool usage if switching to a TP song after second adds is not enough. Thanks for the insights !
Yes, Resonance damage is split - though it only happens at certain times so you can avoid some of the other frontal damage as an off tank if you're quick.
Not sure if serious.
Either you run with a lot of casters or your melee dps need to pick their shit up.
Also, for Touch of Death on the adds, if you aren't getting a lot of ticks on it (all of the ticks if not most of them) then yeah it's a waste of tp. Something something ticks and potency versus other GCD potency output, etc etc.
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