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Final Fantasy XIV |OT6| Casino Royale

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Allard

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Ah okay. Should be soon I guess...

Won't post the patch notes till maintenance starts probably. Since they are also adding in the next zodiac quest, there might be some 'sellable' items that are a part of it they don't want people to jump on till the content is live and thus upset the market.
 

Orcastar

Member
Since the patch introduces chocobo breeding, is my current chocobo going to get assigned a gender tomorrow? If so, she better be female because otherwise I'm gonna have to think of a new name for him.

Yes, this is my number one concern regarding the patch, why do you ask?

Why get any of the gear in the expansion? There's probably another expansion coming with better stuff.

Exactly!
 

IvorB

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I've seen people assuming Heavensward will have a completely new relic weapon questline. Where does that assumption come from, and if it's actually likely to happen, then why even try with the current questlines when there will be a new one soon?

I read an interview linked on here where they say they will definitely not be leaving current relic quest doers out in the cold. They said they won't invalidate the work people have put into the current relic quest.
 

scy

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I've seen nothing that says differently. The fight is on the 14:00 timer overall but the final phase is on its own 5:10 (5:15?) timer as well. Bahamut will do that 6 hit ahk morn, then another mechanic that I am blanking on and then will go into enrage gigaflare. It doesn't matter if you are at 14:00 or before at this point, that gigaflare is meant to be unsurvivable.

Edit: and of course that gigaflare can happen earlier in phase 4 if you were slow in 1 and 2. If that's what anyone took away from what j said then clean out your ears.

So you're saying a, for instance, 4 minute P1+P2 would still mean the enrage after 5th Akh Morn (or, rather, the Megaflare after it) instead of continuing on until after the 6 minute mark? I'm not sure that's true. All the "5:00-5:15" numbers are because that's where 14:00 will generally line up. It's only recently we're having groups capable of pushing significantly fast enough (e.g., 4:45 or below on P1+P2) to even get a whole extra attack deep into his rotation ... but groups capable of doing that won't see 5th AM+ to begin with.

Assuming nothing wonky happens, if we get past 5th AM we'll see a Megaflare into enrage but that's simply due to Megaflare taking so much time (~25 seconds from end of AM to end of Megaflare). The only way for us to buy enough time for another attack would be to push before the 3rd add spawns and have to deal with it during Divebombs. I'm pretty sure his rotation continues, though I suppose I don't know that 100% since we haven't seen it first hand.
 

Sorian

Banned
Since the patch introduces chocobo breeding, is my current chocobo going to get assigned a gender tomorrow? If so, she better be female because otherwise I'm gonna have to think of a new name for him.

Yes, this is my number one concern regarding the patch, why do you ask?



Exactly!

Your current chocobo won't matter at all for racing or breeding.
 

Frumix

Suffering From Success
I've seen nothing that says differently. The fight is on the 14:00 timer overall but the final phase is on its own 5:10 (5:15?) timer as well. Bahamut will do that 6 hit ahk morn, then another mechanic that I am blanking on and then will go into enrage gigaflare. It doesn't matter if you are at 14:00 or before at this point, that gigaflare is meant to be unsurvivable.

I've never seen conclusive proof of this either, but that's because the scenario where the party has enough DPS to push P1-2 this hard then not push P4 hard enough is not quite likely. If Gigaflare after Akh Morn 5 was supposed to be certain regardless why does he still cast Megaflare provided there's time left before 14m? Maybe with Echo someone'd be willing to see if there's Earth Shakers past that.
 

BadRNG

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I've seen nothing that says differently. The fight is on the 14:00 timer overall but the final phase is on its own 5:10 (5:15?) timer as well. Bahamut will do that 6 hit ahk morn, then another mechanic that I am blanking on and then will go into enrage gigaflare. It doesn't matter if you are at 14:00 or before at this point, that gigaflare is meant to be unsurvivable.
Where did you see an enrage hitting before the 14:00 mark? You'd need extremely high dps in first phase to make it doable, but I assume you've seen some video or log of this happening. I can't think of a reason why you'd assume the final phase is on it's on timer otherwise, as every enrage gigaflare I've ever seen (both in-game or in videos) have come post 14:00.
 

Orcastar

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Your current chocobo won't matter at all for racing or breeding.

Well that sucks. So racing and breeding chocobos will be entirely separate from current ones? I won't be able to ride them outside of the race track? And here I was ready to embark on an epic quest to acquire a complete chocobo colour palette.
 
Can someone please give me some advice because I'm having a hell of a time. Below is a picture of my Mog Station information. As you can see, I have two copies of FFXIV attached to my account. The game key on tab one is old and I don't want to use it. I bought a second copy (long story), this time of the collector's edition. That's the one shown here, on tab 2. You can see I have 29 days of free time on it, as I just bought it yesterday.

These are both under the same user name and password, and when I try to log in, it's defaulting to the first key on tab one, and telling me I don't have any available game time. Which I don't. How do I get it to recognize that I'm trying to log in with the second key registered?:

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Killthee

helped a brotha out on multiple separate occasions!
Can someone please give me some advice because I'm having a hell of a time. Below is a picture of my Mog Station information. As you can see, I have two copies of FFXIV attached to my account. The game key on tab one is old and I don't want to use it. I bought a second copy (long story), this time of the collector's edition. That's the one shown here, on tab 2. You can see I have 29 days of free time on it, as I just bought it yesterday.

These are both under the same user name and password, and when I try to log in, it's defaulting to the first key on tab one, and telling me I don't have any available game time. Which I don't. How do I get it to recognize that I'm trying to log in with the second key registered?:

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IIRC you switch service accounts in game by logging in and then selecting the Data Center option on the main menu. Select your data center and It should ask you which account you want to log in with.
 

iammeiam

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Edit: beaten. I am too slow.

These are both under the same user name and password, and when I try to log in, it's defaulting to the first key on tab one, and telling me I don't have any available game time. Which I don't. How do I get it to recognize that I'm trying to log in with the second key registered?:

Are you getting to the screen that lets you select to change data center? IIRC you can change service account by picking Data Center and then (maybe) reselecting your server.
 

Sorian

Banned
Where did you see an enrage hitting before the 14:00 mark? You'd need extremely high dps in first phase to make it doable, but I assume you've seen some video or log of this happening. I can't think of a reason why you'd assume the final phase is on it's on timer otherwise, as every enrage gigaflare I've ever seen (both in-game or in videos) have come post 14:00.

I've never seen it happen myself. I've read guides that made mention of this and I had seen enough of them say it to assume that it had been seen somewhere at some point. It certainly makes sense to me but maybe I'm crazy. I'm well aware that this would probably never happen accidently so the point is kind of moot.
 
I read an interview linked on here where they say they will definitely not be leaving current relic quest doers out in the cold. They said they won't invalidate the work people have put into the current relic quest.

Ok that's the answer I was looking for, thanks!

To ppl saying why not take the same stance with armor, etc.? The relic weapon takes 100x more time to level up than any other thing in the game. So... I'd say there's a big difference there.
 

BadRNG

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I've never seen it happen myself. I've read guides that made mention of this and I had seen enough of them say it to assume that it had been seen somewhere at some point. It certainly makes sense to me but maybe I'm crazy. I'm well aware that this would probably never happen accidently so the point is kind of moot.
It doesn't really make any sense to me, I think it's more likely people mention that time for the final phase because (when the guides were written) the vast majority of groups would be at around that time before enrage hits. But yeah guess it doesn't really matter, so it's moo.
like a cow's opinion

To ppl saying why not take the same stance with armor, etc.? The relic weapon takes 100x more time to level up than any other thing in the game. So... I'd say there's a big difference there.
If the current relic is actually needed for the new one in expansion, expect a massive nerf in how much time it takes to go through those steps though. Current relic wielders might get a leg up or something in speed but there's no way they will make new players/people coming back go through the shitty relic line as is to get started on the new one. So if your concern is that your effort on relic may be wasted come expansion time, there's a good chance it will be.
 
If the current relic is actually needed for the new one in expansion, expect a massive nerf in how much time it takes to go through those steps though. Current relic wielders might get a leg up or something in speed but there's no way they will make new players/people coming back go through the shitty relic line as is to get started on the new one. So if your concern is that your effort on relic may be wasted come expansion time, there's a good chance it will be.

you should just slap him and take his money while you're at it
 

aceface

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Since the patch introduces chocobo breeding, is my current chocobo going to get assigned a gender tomorrow? If so, she better be female because otherwise I'm gonna have to think of a new name for him.

Yes, this is my number one concern regarding the patch, why do you ask?



Exactly!

All the chocobos issued by the Grand Companies are male. So far they've only had female ones in Ishgard.
 

Allard

Member
If the current relic is actually needed for the new one in expansion, expect a massive nerf in how much time it takes to go through those steps though. Current relic wielders might get a leg up or something in speed but there's no way they will make new players/people coming back go through the shitty relic line as is to get started on the new one. So if your concern is that your effort on relic may be wasted come expansion time, there's a good chance it will be.

Absolute certainty its getting nerfed, just like getting the original relic was nerfed going from 1.0 to 2.0 but perhaps not that extreme. Yoshida has already said content like that questline would be 'eased' as the game went on and not just because people got more powerful. I'd Expect dramatic changes in the zodiac questline whenever the 'sequel' to it begins to start after 3.0 comes out.
 

Frumix

Suffering From Success
Ok that's the answer I was looking for, thanks!

To ppl saying why not take the same stance with armor, etc.? The relic weapon takes 100x more time to level up than any other thing in the game. So... I'd say there's a big difference there.

Don't know about that. Learning a tough raid then getting lucky enough for a drop from it takes time. Hell even WoD gives people some rough treatment with its 11-item chests. Even capping tomes every week isn't exactly what I'd call fast gameplay and then you have to either raid a lot or farm hunts for untold hours to upgrade all that. Getting full BiS could take from a month or two to a full patch cycle.
 
I would but since he did relic, probably doesn't have any.

Omg hahaha so true. And sad. I'm proud to still have about 3 mil to my name after wasting a lot of it on Savage Mights and Aims, supplemented with selling IV's I didn't need.

Anyways if you guys couldn't tell this is my first real MMO (guild wars doesn't count) so the gear progression thing is relatively new to me. And to hear that something so arduous to obtain will likely become a lot easier later makes me almost want to just unsub until the next expansion. But... I want to play triple triad so... I guess that's just life in MMOs.
 

Fdkn

Member
So I finally have some spare time and decided to redeem the month that came with my collector's edition to try the game and just found that the server where I know a couple of guys (Ragnarok-EU) doesn't allow new character creations.

Reading about it on google I found mixed information about that restriction being lifted usually very early on the morning but all those were old post so I don't know if that still happens or I'm out of luck.

I was wondering if anyone here recommends me to try waiting until this late-night/tomorrow or I'm just better picking one of the available servers because they don't open the others anymore.
 

Hystzen

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So I finally have some spare time and decided to redeem the month that came with my collector's edition to try the game and just found that the server where I know a couple of guys (Ragnarok-EU) doesn't allow new character creations.

Reading about it on google I found mixed information about that restriction being lifted usually very early on the morning but all those were old post so I don't know if that still happens or I'm out of luck.

I was wondering if anyone here recommends me to try waiting until this late-night/tomorrow or I'm just better picking one of the available servers because they don't open the others anymore.

A few of us including me are EU and currently on Ultros a NA server just to play with GAF. It upto if want try to get on ragnarok or join gaf
 
Don't know about that. Learning a tough raid then getting lucky enough for a drop from it takes time. Hell even WoD gives people some rough treatment with its 11-item chests. Even capping tomes every week isn't exactly what I'd call fast gameplay and then you have to either raid a lot or farm hunts for untold hours to upgrade all that. Getting full BiS could take from a month or two to a full patch cycle.

I guess I'm taking into account the fact that you can get near-max armor as drops. Yes it's random but so is everything else. The i130 upgrade using twine takes a while with hunts but so does Alex farming, which is only one relic step. And yes you can get near-max weapons from drops but again there's only one relic and you can't just skip to i120 with that.

I get what you're saying but the time commitment is nowhere near comparable.
 
Must have done WoD around 50 times by this point. Not so much as even seen the BRD Body.

Is it the Demon Tabard of Aiming? I got that in my 3rd run when I was the only bard in the party. Funny enough my previous run had all 5 bards in the raid in the same alliance.
 

aceface

Member
Welp I was thinking about an EU server regardless because of latency and timezone...

Yes the restrictions are raised at certain times, check lodestone every few hours to see character creation availability. No servers are closed down permanently.

Also you should know that as of now the European servers are in Montreal, same as the NA servers. However, I think they are introducing servers actually in Europe for the expansion.
 

Valor

Member
I've seen nothing that says differently. The fight is on the 14:00 timer overall but the final phase is on its own 5:10 (5:15?) timer as well. Bahamut will do that 6 hit ahk morn, then another mechanic that I am blanking on and then will go into enrage gigaflare. It doesn't matter if you are at 14:00 or before at this point, that gigaflare is meant to be unsurvivable.

Edit: and of course that gigaflare can happen earlier in phase 4 if you were slow in 1 and 2. If that's what anyone took away from what j said then clean out your ears.

Are you sure it's its own five minute timer? From what I understand (which isn't much) is that most groups push out of p2 around five minutes into the fight. P3 is strictly timed to what D&T says is 3:40 or so, which puts the fight at around 8:40 by the time you start P4, which, if there is a 14 minute hard enrage, gives you approximately 5 minutes and change to finish phase 4.

I suppose in theory you could say that P4 has its own timer, but that's kind of a silly line of thought in my opinion.


EDIT: Didn't see people already picked this apart :x ignore me.

Instead this post is now about Chocobo Racing.

Yes. Chocobo Racing will be a thing. Team No Expectations gonna take the Cup.
 

Fdkn

Member
Also you should know that as of now the European servers are in Montreal, same as the NA servers. However, I think they are introducing servers actually in Europe for the expansion.

that definitely changes my perspective :/ I'll think about it tonight and decide, thanks for the info
 

Sorian

Banned
Are you sure it's its own five minute timer? From what I understand (which isn't much) is that most groups push out of p2 around five minutes into the fight. P3 is strictly timed to what D&T says is 3:40 or so, which puts the fight at around 8:40 by the time you start P4, which, if there is a 14 minute hard enrage, gives you approximately 5 minutes and change to finish phase 4.

I suppose in theory you could say that P4 has its own timer, but that's kind of a silly line of thought in my opinion.


EDIT: Didn't see people already picked this apart :x ignore me.

Instead this post is now about Chocobo Racing.

Yes. Chocobo Racing will be a thing. Team No Expectations gonna take the Cup.

I got rekt already. Tomorrow is triple triad day, rejoice.
 

iammeiam

Member
Why is everyone so excited for Triple Triad? Will we be able to win high level weapons and armour?

Is "Because it's fun" not sufficient?

Like its content being added that people may actually enjoy for its own sake, and not as means to an end. It's kind of a big deal.
 

IvorB

Member
Mounts, minions, glamour items, and possibly some other surprises. It's highly doubtful we'll see any endgame relevant armor though.

Okay cool.

Is "Because it's fun" not sufficient?

Like its content being added that people may actually enjoy for its own sake, and not as means to an end. It's kind of a big deal.

Yikes. Calm down, bro. I'm just asking. I literally have no idea what's involved.
 

Allard

Member
Why is everyone so excited for Triple Triad? Will we be able to win high level weapons and armour?

Its a tried a tested collecting game that is fun in and of it self and will be dispersed through all content. Its going to be as much fun learning the way to collect all the cards as it is for people to build their favorite decks. Triple Triad was like the one good thing to come out of FFVIII, and I actually like that game aside from the card game.
 

Jayhawk

Member
WHO READY TO GET REKT? AT THE RACE TRACK? ON THE CARD TABLES? YOUR CHOICE, FRIENDS.

I'll be streaming as soon as I wake up and play tomorrow.
 

iammeiam

Member
Yikes. Calm down, bro. I'm just asking. I literally have no idea what's involved.

I'm not uncalm? People have been begging for Triple Triad for basically ever; rewards are irrelevant honestly (and there's no indicator of TT-specific rewards; the generic Saucer glamour and minions could be earned via minigames and Chocobo racing too.) People in general are excited for Triple Triad because it's Triple Triad.

And also for a chance to humiliate each other at the card tables, maybe.


Plot twist: you can buy sands and encrypted tomes with GS coins.

which would be fine imo

Oh man I hope so. I'm creeping up on poetics cap; time to welfare i130 some alt jobs I never play.
 

Sorian

Banned
All you scrubs going to show up with minfilias and cactaurs and I'll be at the card table with a blue eyes white dragon and an ace of spades.
 

IvorB

Member
Because I enjoy playing Triple Triad? I'd be quite happy if there was zero reward from it other than cards

Its a tried a tested collecting game that is fun in and of it self and will be dispersed through all content. Its going to be as much fun learning the way to collect all the cards as it is for people to build their favorite decks. Triple Triad was like the one good thing to come out of FFVIII, and I actually like that game aside from the card game.

Oh so people have played this before? I will give it a spin I guess.

I'm not uncalm? People have been begging for Triple Triad for basically ever; rewards are irrelevant honestly (and there's no indicator of TT-specific rewards; the generic Saucer glamour and minions could be earned via minigames and Chocobo racing too.) People in general are excited for Triple Triad because it's Triple Triad.

And also for a chance to humiliate each other at the card tables, maybe.

I'm sorry, I thought I detected a somewhat sharp tone in your message but I guess it was my mistake. :)
 
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