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Final Fantasy XIV |OT6| Casino Royale

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iammeiam

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Alright, thanks.

So far my major problem has been managing TP with huge pulls and deciding what to use in these situations. It's pretty different compared to SMN/SCH where you bane and go afk.

Do you have Invigorate? Leveling LNC sucked but that skill is godly and alleviates a ton of TP issues. I don't see it or B4B on your bars so probably not... It is absolutely worth getting and makes the class a lot more fun.
 

WolvenOne

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Broken DRG is to play on the nostalgia of FFXI players.

Heh, never played 11, couldn't really comment there.

Sad thing is though, it really wouldn't be that difficult to fix the class, so I'm not sure why they haven't by now. (Maybe replace the positional requirements of Impulse Drive and Heavy Thrust with Positional guaranteed Crits, and make Keen Flurry something that helps with Magic Damage.) Only thing I can guess is, maybe they're going to do a heavy revamp of the class in the expansion. I fear that might be wishful thinking though.

Shame, cause the one thing Dragoons don't need a buff for, is on Styling. They may die left and right, but at least they look fantastic while doing it! XD
 

WolvenOne

Member
I'm going to leave this as a simple matter of differing opinions. Mind you, my mind might change when I actually level Ninja. Still working on Monk.

.....not being able to queue up for dungeons bites. :p

Edit: Am I wrong in thinking that maybe they should have dramatically increased the reward for doing Lowbie roulette's at 50, for this patch only? Needed to do something to get more healers and tanks into lowbie dungeons.
 

WolvenOne

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Ninja has the coolest jump attack in the game.

Dunno about that man, Dragonfire Dive coming off Thermionic Beam is flipping epic to see, especially since Dragoons will do a slight mid-air U-turn if they time it just as Nael's jumping back to the tank. XD
 

Valor

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Alright, GAF, how do I bard
Pretty much Ken and Iammeiam covered it already, but to reiterate:

Use your off GCD attacks in-between your GCDs (Blunt Arrow/Repelling Shot/Flaming Arrow, not in that order)

If there's three mobs pulled, I dot all three and single target down the first one, re-up dots (probably not needed based on dps) and single target the next down. I'm not a believer in Quick Knock as your AOE of choice, since once you hit 50, Wide Volley procs RoD for free which can proc Quick Knock for free, so you're usually better off with the 20 extra tp for Wide Volley and pray like a BLM for Procs. Re-up Invig during AoE, don't bother with Paeon unless you bottom out of TP, which shouldn't happen unless you're running with a MNK/bad AoE partner. MP is typically better spent on Foe in dungeons, or with Ballad, I guess. Depends on how bad your healer is with mp management. Paeon for allies is only useful in content like T8/10/long fights of [mostly] uninterrupted DPS.

Be sure that whenever you use Repelling Shot, do it in the most flashy way possible. You're a BRD, damn it, you have a reputation to uphold.

But the most important part of Bard is Amon's Hat. Get it immediately.
Do not listen to this heathen.

Oh man, my sub lapsed and I can't fund it until tomorrow. Guess I can play some FF11 for free today.
I'll take your spot in FCoB until you're back, no worries.
 

Reknoc

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Dunno about that man, Dragonfire Dive coming off Thermionic Beam is flipping epic to see, especially since Dragoons will do a slight mid-air U-turn if they time it just as Nael's jumping back to the tank. XD

that sounds cool, but call me when drg can do something as rad as sitting on a primals head and shanking them in the face

i wont leave my number because it'll never happen

Be sure that whenever you use Repelling Shot, do it in the most flashy way possible. You're a BRD, damn it, you have a reputation to uphold..

eg. in front of a ledge leading to a bottomless pit
 

Kagari

Crystal Bearer
Pretty much Ken and Iammeiam covered it already, but to reiterate:

Use your off GCD attacks in-between your GCDs (Blunt Arrow/Repelling Shot/Flaming Arrow, not in that order)

If there's three mobs pulled, I dot all three and single target down the first one, re-up dots (probably not needed based on dps) and single target the next down. I'm not a believer in Quick Knock as your AOE of choice, since once you hit 50, Wide Volley procs RoD for free which can proc Quick Knock for free, so you're usually better off with the 20 extra tp for Wide Volley and pray like a BLM for Procs. Re-up Invig during AoE, don't bother with Paeon unless you bottom out of TP, which shouldn't happen unless you're running with a MNK/bad AoE partner. MP is typically better spent on Foe in dungeons, or with Ballad, I guess. Depends on how bad your healer is with mp management. Paeon for allies is only useful in content like T8/10/long fights of [mostly] uninterrupted DPS.

Be sure that whenever you use Repelling Shot, do it in the most flashy way possible. You're a BRD, damn it, you have a reputation to uphold.

Do not listen to this heathen.


I'll take your spot in FCoB until you're back, no worries.

Thirsty for Turn 12 I see.
 

Trojita

Rapid Response Threadmaker
If you guys are planning on running second coil tonight, I'm running late today, some last minute work came up so I'll be home a little bit later.

Oh man, my sub lapsed and I can't fund it until tomorrow. Guess I can play some FF11 for free today.

Gotta wait for that fat first paycheck
 

Ploid 3.0

Member
Oh man, my sub lapsed and I can't fund it until tomorrow. Guess I can play some FF11 for free today.

o_O (googles)

Oh great, wish I knew about this earlier.

Live Vanadiel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gm8LlwO_QU#t=223

Oh man the memories with that opening music, the original. I remember when FFXI was launching and they streamed it live and a taru was just sitting at a crystal afk for a long long time.

What is it with SE and disabling comments. 400 people watching and no one can talk about the good times.
 

iammeiam

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I'm not a believer in Quick Knock as your AOE of choice, since once you hit 50, Wide Volley procs RoD for free which can proc Quick Knock for free, so you're usually better off with the 20 extra tp for Wide Volley and pray like a BLM for Procs.

I read through this thing once that did the math--you need something absurd like 7,000 TP worth of Wide Volley for the procs to make it more TP efficient than Quck Knock.

I mean, only Wide Volley lets you flip circles around trash packs which is a huge mark in the plus column, but unless RNG is ridiculously kind you're burning TP for cool points.
 

Valor

Member
I read through this thing once that did the math--you need something absurd like 7,000 TP worth of Wide Volley for the procs to make it more TP efficient than Quck Knock.

I mean, only Wide Volley lets you flip circles around trash packs which is a huge mark in the plus column, but unless RNG is ridiculously kind you're burning TP for cool points.

Problem is that in most content where you're actually AOEing as a BRD as a legitimate form of DPS, you're very rarely ever going to run into a TP starved situation that Quick Knock would have saved your butt from. That plus lining up the cone as if I'm a freaking DRG using Doom Spike means it's flat out not worth my time unless I can use it for free. Other people can use it, but it's not for me.

The bottom line is that usually once I burn through my cds + invig on Wide Volley + procs, I don't need to AOE again long enough to regenerate that TP or I can sing half of a bar of Paeon to get my tp back to an acceptable state. *shrug*
 

iammeiam

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The bottom line is that usually once I burn through my cds + invig on Wide Volley + procs, I don't need to AOE again long enough to regenerate that TP or I can sing half of a bar of Paeon to get my tp back to an acceptable state. *shrug*

Don't get me wrong--I mentioned earlier that I Wide Volley everything, and I don't even have Quick Knock mapped half the time--my sole point was that the procs aren't that great and aren't an argument in Wide Volley's favor. Ease of use is, but the procs are meh.
 

studyguy

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XIV DRG active right now are basically the XI guys who were arguing Penta Thrust was still okay guys on the sidelines while everyone else got PT invites post nerf.
 

dcye

Member
9m Gil vs Kirimu Coat = 2.95+fully melded.

Even though I panicked and went Savage Aim 3 on the final meld, I count that as a serious win.
 

ponpo

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Spent the last 48 hours mining and it's now my second highest leveled class. Good riddance, fighting things.
 

Frumix

Suffering From Success
So instead of the usual Relic->Zenith->Atma->Animus->Novus->Nexus, in the JP client Yoshimitsu's progression goes like:

Yoshimitsu->Kai(改,revised)->Maga(真我,true form)->Nyuukon(入魂, soul-infused) -> Shinsei(新生,reborn) -> Shinuchi(真打,headliner)

JP lodestone link

via reddit


Koji stahp
 

Mr Nash

square pies = communism
Spent the last 48 hours mining and it's now my second highest leveled class. Good riddance, fighting things.

Yeah, I almost never touch my combat classes since starting to get into crafting and gathering quite a bit. I would love it if those jobs were completely divorced from the main story quest line in the future (ditto for pvp). Sadly, having a mount is useful so we do need to invest a few hours in fighting stuff, and I wouldn't be surprised if something similar happened in the expansion as well. =(
 

ponpo

( ≖‿≖)
Yeah, I almost never touch my combat classes since starting to get into crafting and gathering quite a bit. I would love it if those jobs were completely divorced from the main story quest line in the future (ditto for pvp). Sadly, having a mount is useful so we do need to invest a few hours in fighting stuff, and I wouldn't be surprised if something similar happened in the expansion as well. =(

Haha well I guess they want you to play a bit of the 'normal' game as well.

I wish the classes were somehow more independent, though. I like crafting with certain classes and like gathering, but the Market Board money isn't that great so when I think about higher level crafting my mind drift to "what's the point if I don't want to be whatever class all that stuff is supporting." Have Materia stuff to look forward to, at least.
 
Dunno about that man, Dragonfire Dive coming off Thermionic Beam is flipping epic to see, especially since Dragoons will do a slight mid-air U-turn if they time it just as Nael's jumping back to the tank. XD

I guess we are talking about Assassinate?

The range is so shit I wouldn't even consider it a jumping attack honestly. Definitely not comparable to DRG stuff.

Btw, I was wondering how things like Raiton damage are calculated. Are they counted as elemental so that something like Foe's Requiem would boost the damage?

I ask because there were a few times where it seemed like my Raiton was doing a TON more damage (and I don't think BfB was up) and I thought it might be because of that.
 
PLD 50 get. My gear is a mess, though. I miss cheap hunt i90.

And so my only thing left to do is catch Kuno. Which got even less likely when I realized Canavan is time restricted. The dream is dead.

This bow remains amazing, and comes pre-tackified.

Yeah, I got really lucky that I already had a mix of i90, i100, and i110 DEX accessories from my BRD. I was able to hit ilvl93 within a couple of days of hitting 50.

Still rocking the relic Helm and Legs too so once I get those covered it will be improved a bit.

Man, why the hell did they use so many similar icons in this patch. Soldiery and Poetics being the same damn color is fine, but I really thought that the Magitek weapons were using the previous Tomestones...

What are the drop rates like for those now? Do they drop in all of the Final Turn? I would hate to wait for the next Crystal Tower patch before getting the dagger and bow....
 

squadr0n

Member
Ugh 10$ for a Name change! Atleast give us the first one free damnit. I purchased Vanilla XIV CE and have been a subscriber since day 1 and I still have to pay 10$ for a name change lol.
 

iammeiam

Member
I thought you weren't gonna rush to 50!

I lied. I just don't like people watching me lose aggro everywhere.
Yeah, I got really lucky that I already had a mix of i90, i100, and i110 DEX accessories from my BRD. I was able to hit ilvl93 within a couple of days of hitting 50.

Still rocking the relic Helm and Legs too so once I get those covered it will be improved a bit.

I haven't gotten desperate enough to stick my whm/BRD sold stuff on yet; I'm hovering around i80 but it's just a ridiculously disjointed mess of gear. AF head/hands/feet, unweathered sold body/legs/choker, weathered earrings, Shiva bracelet, Gladiator's Ring/Master Gladiator's Ring, Shiva sword, i95 Levi shield.

I'll probably wind up picking up another sold piece (probably gloves since I can hide helm and already glamoured feet, so I can swap out and glamour over gloves) and calling it good; I originally thought I'd save sold for relic then realized I'd have to tank AK if I wanted to do relic so nahhhhhh.

What are the drop rates like for those now? Do they drop in all of the Final Turn? I would hate to wait for the next Crystal Tower patch before getting the dagger and bow....

T11 for encrypted tomestones.
 
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