I don't want to sit through 11 hours of poorly produced and written cinematics. . .sue me.
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I don't want to sit through 11 hours of poorly produced and written cinematics. . .sue me.
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
Mix of linear, wide linear and with open zones is a good middleground.
Captain Toad
Banned
There is stuff like Bravely Default which is basically spiritual successors to FFIII and FFV. Octopath Traveler is similar SNES FF games. I Am Setsuna story-wise is reminiscent of FFX.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
lol man I’m hyped but give me a fucking break. The best part of the game isn’t the actual game, it’s the fact that a PS5 is running it?
Did Sony pay for this tweet?
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
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Beastclaw Raider
Banned
Aww, guess you've never played FF back in the days while you had to scroll through douzains of hours of text and sprites cutscenes I suppose
Yautja_Warrior
Member
God damn, this looks fucking epic. I'm all in for this one.
GymWolf
Gold Member
Cinematic what?
Luipadre
Gold Member
Astral Dog
Member
This game looks amazing on so many levels,fans aren't ready they are in for a shock Square Enix got themselves the finest talent in action game design to work on this game alongside the already solid FFXIV team
wvnative
Member
Just the demo was at night time. There will be plenty of sunshine in the full game.
GymWolf
Gold Member
It kinda reminds me of when an italian site interviewed andrea pessino, one of ready at down chiefs and he explained how they called their melee system for the order "cine-melee" because there was a small cutscene involved...when you press R1 during cinematic it says cinematic evade
I knew the game was utterly fucked after reading that
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remember_spinal
Banned
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Radical Dreamer
Member
I just wish it could have turn battle system or something like FF7:R.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
I'm hyped. Want it yesterday.
sendit
Member
Plenty of turn based battle systems in modern games. I'm glad mainline Final Fantasy's have not gone back to turn based.
Mr.Phoenix
Member
Ok we have heard you. To each their own.
I for one see it as getting a 35hr main story game + 20+hr side quest game + an 11hr CG anime show.
I do wonder if you realize how much time was spent scouring through text in the FF cutscenes of od though.
Kacho
Gold Member
Yeah, the ultra Sony fanboys continue to be most vile creatures on the face of the planet lol. Sometimes you just want to appreciate a nice game and they're all
Fake
Member
The games looks ok, but there is a nightmare in the presentation so far.
I mean, if they don't tell the game was FF at the start of the video I wouldn't guess, maybe AC?
They are like leaving the boring part of the exploration without edit and cutting parts of the combat gameplay? Why?
Strange choise of market.
I mean, if they don't tell the game was FF at the start of the video I wouldn't guess, maybe AC?
They are like leaving the boring part of the exploration without edit and cutting parts of the combat gameplay? Why?
Strange choise of market.
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Bruno_Arrais85
Member
game looks cool but I'm worried about so many QTEs during the boss battles
sendit
Member
Quite a bit of people. Some of the best selling games have lengthy cut scenes and most are skip-able. Examples include:
- Cyberpunk 2077 is ~24 hour game. This individual beat it in under 1 hour skipping all the scenes.
- RDR2 is ~50 hour game with 10 hours of cut scenes.
- The Witcher 3 is ~50 hour game with 15 hours of cutscenes
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Nautilus
Banned
Pokemon might have a problem here and there with its games, but saying most of its games suck when Scarlet and Violet sold 21 million units in a little more than a month is just a denial.
And since when 5 million + is not popular? 10 million+ sales are reached by few games.Those are not popular, those are mainstream, and few games can realistically reach that.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
something sucking != it will sell like shit
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I didn't say anything about not wanting to read text. SE has not made a single FF game in the last ten years at least that has a decent script behind it that would make me excited to know that the next game is going to have 11 hours of it dedicated solely to them trying to tell a cinematic story. The story trailers that we've seen so far also do not inspire confidence and neither do gifs of "Whizbang vidya game action. . ." (as if I also want to sit and watch 11 hours of Marvel Universe style action dressed up as "storytelling").
All of those games had EXCELLENT storytelling and direction and so sitting through the cutscenes in those games wasn't a chore. If this one has excellent storytelling and direction (again, not seeing it from the quality of writing of the trailers so far) then great, even better if it is spread out not just to the main story. If its more of the quality in FFXIV, which had a decent story and some wildly uneven writing and direction/voicework, then. . .well this year is already stacked anyway so no need to get everything at launch.
Nautilus
Banned
It helps, obviously, but its just a part of the equation.Persona 5 and Three Houses are 100+ hour games, who would put up with 80 hours of gameplay, just to enjoy 20 hours of the social stuff?
Octopath Traveler sold more than 3.5 million units(and was not frontloaded) and was a pure old school JRPG, and zero brand awareness.What's the excuse for OT for doing well?
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
The best part of this awesome Big Mac Extra Value Meal? The fact that it was all made possible by McDonalds (tm)!!!!Yeah, the ultra Sony fanboys continue to be most vile creatures on the face of the planet lol. Sometimes you just want to appreciate a nice game and they're all
Lol I mean I’m a fan of PlayStation too, but what a douche-y thing to say. Imagine if you went to some message board and asked people’s opinions of the game and they said something like that. You’d immediately assume they’re a complete tool.
Nautilus
Banned
Fire Emblem has a fraction of FF's brand awareness.If XVI was turn based, and had the quality that Three Houses had, it would have sold double the ammount at minimum.
samoilaaa
Member
i dont want open world either but i dont want corridors , i want those closed areas to be filled with interesting stuff to explore
Nautilus
Banned
Three Houses got at 4 million after years of constantly selling. It did 2 million or so in the first month or so, and the extra 2 million in the extra 3 years or so. So its clearly still selling, even if slowly.
Nautilus
Banned
I agree that change is on its DNA, but you don't need to change genres to adapt and change. But let's agree to disagree.
Thabass
Member
From what I've read, the game will be more akin to Xenoblade Chronicles than it will be Final Fantasy XV. Obviously the battle system is much different than both.
remember_spinal
Banned
Nautilus
Banned
And neither is the opposite true too. I don't get your point.
Pokemon has been stagnant for decades now. But people still claim for more, so it clearly is doing something right. Scarlet and Violet finally tried something new, and it resonated with people, even if it has horrible technical problems.
Nautilus
Banned
If that's the only kind of reply you can come up with, then I guess the discussion has run its course. I wish you a nice day!
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
So hyped! I don’t mind it’s not turn based since I’m getting that from Octopath, Bravely Default, Dragon Quest and Shin Megami Tensei/Persona.
if they are going for action RPG then I want proper action combat and looks like FFXVI delivering exactly that.
if they are going for action RPG then I want proper action combat and looks like FFXVI delivering exactly that.
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sendit
Member
Your preference has been noted. However, you can't actually believe a turn based game would sell more today?
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Lol man the absolute worst part of FF1-10 is the battle system. This is coming from someone who’s been a fan from the beginning. I think I still have my Cloud Strife shirt from preordering FF7 back in the day.
I used to love that shit but it absolutely bores me to tears nowadays, good riddance.
And to people pointing to Persona or whatever as an example of what a turn-based battle system can be: that’s about as far from traditional FF as DMC style combat is. Plus it’s boring.
It’s been over 20 years since FFX. You people should begin the healing process and go play one of the zillion other boring turn based JRPGs, instead of whining that the one mainline FF game we get every 6 years isn’t some nostalgia wank fest
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
This is the hypest shit coming from this series in a decade. It’ll destroy all expectations and possibly running for GOTY which considering the name and the genre itself will be miracle. Please be to this franchise what Elden Ring did to Souls: break all record! In Yoshida we trust T_T
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
remember_spinal
Banned
Same.
Been playing FF since 2 (US) and its hard for me to revisit the turn based games now. A lot of people don’t want to admit it but turn based rpgs have very low sales ceilings.
I do wonder what they will do to FFIX when the time comes show the remake
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These are the worst post in the whole discussion so far.
Good riddance to you. This reads like console fanboy bullshit.
BTW in genreal: What are you people even arguing about? Because at no point does Yoshi-P pass judgement on turn-based as a concept. He strictly says they decided on pure action as a different direction. He's free to do so, because in the end EVERYTHING, Action, ATB. Hybrid, Turn-Based relies on execution and focus. There's nothing that's automatically better than the other.
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GymWolf
Gold Member
I like the skin texture on the beast.