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MLB Regular Season 2013 |OT3| - Umpires Still Suck

CygnusXS

will gain confidence one day
Kimbrel's got a decent shot at the NL Saves record which is... neat? I guess? Current record is 55 by Smoltz.

Also I just learned that if you search Google for John Smoltz, the picture they use of him is a Red Sox pic. They use a Cubs pic for Maddux. Glavine isn't even wearing a hat. I smell a conspiracy!
 
Is Shelby not doing so well lately?
Alright, all things considered. Alvarez murders our pitching either way and I'm pretty sure Martin and Barmes have done their share of damage against us as well (though it might be a case of confirmation bias with the latter two).

Pedro has scarred our fanbase so much there were complaints about Matheny IBBing McCutch to face him w/RISP last time we played each other even though McCutch is flat-out a better hitter.

EDIT: Oh, yeah - your new OF has hit 3 HRs in 4 games against the Cards this season.
 

Lambtron

Unconfirmed Member
You are such an angry guy. :)
Watching the current incarnation of the Twins is pretty infuriating, believe that.

1. Brian Dozier, 2B
2. Pedro Florimon, SS
3. Justin Morneau, DH
4. Josh Willingham, LF
5. Ryan Doumit, RF
6. Trevor Plouffe, 3B
7. Chris Colabello, 1B
8. Wilkin Ramirez, RF
9. Clete Thomas, CF

This was the starting line up today. The highest OPS of anyone was .743. Christ.
 

turnbuckle

Member
Watching the current incarnation of the Twins is pretty infuriating, believe that.

1. Brian Dozier, 2B
2. Pedro Florimon, SS
3. Justin Morneau, DH
4. Josh Willingham, LF
5. Ryan Doumit, RF
6. Trevor Plouffe, 3B
7. Chris Colabello, 1B
8. Wilkin Ramirez, RF
9. Clete Thomas, CF

This was the starting line up today. The highest OPS of anyone was .743. Christ.

gotta tank to secure high draft picks!
 

rando14

Member
we snap the losing streak with a win against the astros

yaaaaay.

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The Indians have acquired Jason Kubel from the Diamondbacks in exchange for a currently-unknown Minor League player and cash considerations. The player will be named Friday morning.

Kubel was DFA'd by the Diamondbacks on August 27.
 
Watching the current incarnation of the Twins is pretty infuriating, believe that.

1. Brian Dozier, 2B
2. Pedro Florimon, SS
3. Justin Morneau, DH
4. Josh Willingham, LF
5. Ryan Doumit, RF
6. Trevor Plouffe, 3B
7. Chris Colabello, 1B
8. Wilkin Ramirez, RF
9. Clete Thomas, CF

This was the starting line up today. The highest OPS of anyone was .743. Christ.

I don't follow the AL too much, but I seriously only recognize Morneau out of that entire list, and he hasn't been great for at least a few years if memory serves. Damn.

Doesn't he suck?

This is what I was thinking. "Suck" might be a bit harsh, but "decidedly mediocre for the price" seems about right.
 
Marlins officially eliminated after their loss to the Nats yesterday.

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EDIT: Sorry, I misread the standings. They're only officially eliminated from winning the NLE. Their magic number for the wild card elimination is at 5. They're still alive!
 

Lambtron

Unconfirmed Member
I don't follow the AL too much, but I seriously only recognize Morneau out of that entire list, and he hasn't been great for at least a few years if memory serves. Damn.

This is what I was thinking. "Suck" might be a bit harsh, but "decidedly mediocre for the price" seems about right.
Yeah at this point in his career Morneau is a thoroughly mediocre player. It's really sad to watch. Before the concussion in 2010 he was having an all-world season. Since he's come back he's had stretches where he got hot and looked good but he's a shell of his former self. He has a pretty massive platoon split, and honestly if he was only starting against RH pitching that would help him a lot. The Pirates could, in theory, do that with Sanchez & Morneau. Gardenhire isn't that type of manager, and despite his loss of skill, Morneau is still a face of the franchise, so I think the fanbase (especially the Mauer-hating moron section of it) would be upset to see him "disrespected" like that.

Basically, this article sums up my feelings on him.
 

eznark

Banned
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turnbuckle

Member
Yeah at this point in his career Morneau is a thoroughly mediocre player. It's really sad to watch. Before the concussion in 2010 he was having an all-world season. Since he's come back he's had stretches where he got hot and looked good but he's a shell of his former self. He has a pretty massive platoon split, and honestly if he was only starting against RH pitching that would help him a lot. The Pirates could, in theory, do that with Sanchez & Morneau. Gardenhire isn't that type of manager, and despite his loss of skill, Morneau is still a face of the franchise, so I think the fanbase (especially the Mauer-hating moron section of it) would be upset to see him "disrespected" like that.

Basically, this article sums up my feelings on him.

Yeah, I was reading that article yesterday. Definitely a hard thing to accept one way or the other as a fan of a team and fan of a player. On one hand, he won't be able to devastate your team if you re-sign like an Albert Pujols / Prince Fielder contract; on the other, re-signing him likely means you'll be getting inadequate production for the money from that position for years to come.

It's like letting Brandon Inge go a few years ago if Brandon Inge was actually likeable and talented (of which he was neither, but I had to find a way to make a comparison of Morneau to Inge because, well, why not.)

- edit -

How can anyone hate Mauer? I hate the Twins, but Mauer is a talented and beautiful man.
 
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And I thought my jokes were bad.
 
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Damn, Axford is that bad, huh?

This seems like the weirdest move to upgrade unless Mujica's health status is worse than advertised. Starting pitching was a much bigger need but I guess the price was too high for a difference maker. :(
 

eznark

Banned
Damn, Axford is that bad, huh?

This seems like the weirdest move to upgrade unless Mujica's health status is worse than advertised. Starting pitching was a much bigger need but I guess the price was too high for a difference maker. :(

Last 28 days:

.270/.372/.541

He's unpitchable in leverage situation. I guess the Cardinals just didn't want to burn anyone's service time?

Awesome deal for the Brewers. They get better and the Carinals get worse. Tough to do that via trade.
 

Fox318

Member
Marlins officially eliminated after their loss to the Nats yesterday.

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EDIT: Sorry, I misread the standings. They're only officially eliminated from winning the NLE. Their magic number for the wild card elimination is at 5. They're still alive!

What the hell is going on in that image?


Base coaches and players should be fired
 
Last 28 days:

.270/.372/.541

He's unpitchable in leverage situation. I guess the Cardinals just didn't want to burn anyone's service time?

Awesome deal for the Brewers. They get better and the Carinals get worse. Tough to do that via trade.
We'll call it a push after the Kyle Lohse contract.

Holy cow @ his LD% and HR/FB the past two seasons. His fastball seems to have gone to shit, according to pitch values. And his K% has dropped quite a bit even from last season. Sure hope the Cards know wtf they're doing and this isn't just "a move to make a move" type of thing.
 

eznark

Banned
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Lohse has been really good. Way better than expected. As long as he stays healthy we'll get a nice return for him next year.
 
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Lohse has been really good. Way better than expected. As long as he stays healthy we'll get a nice return for him next year.
You don't recall your outrage at the signing at the time?

Kyle is a solid pitcher; it's just the risk of him falling off the cliff before that contract ends - although you're right: some team will probably overpay for him at next year's deadline if he's still a good pitcher in 2014. I think you'd have to get more than a first round draft pick to avoid a net loss. Paying a guy market rate during 2+ non-contending years with the risk of the contract blowing up on you AND giving a division rival a compensation pick is right up there with adding a shitastic reliever that might regain form over the span of 10-20 innings.
 
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