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[March Climber]

No offense but take me back to the actual 80s when women like this didn't even make it past the first audition lol.

It's difficult to know what exactly you're asking for, but it sounds like your gripe is more with writers than actors. I think she does a decent job with her different roles:





Not enough to be known as an A-level actress, but versatile enough in TV shows to not play just one typecasted character.

 

[Outlier]

Druckmann has a fetish for bald women, I bet he's afraid of telling it to his wife.

It's boblers are lopsided...

 

[rofif]

What happened was Lou ii was still a big hit (though likely not as big as lou1) with girl power and 2020 brought on Floyd and blm.

So a shit ton of games and tv/movies went haywire skewing their media to a temporary cultural shift. 2023 and definitely 2024 laid the hammer down.

But too late to turn back unless they want to redo all the scripts, actors, Mo cap and voice recordings.

Yeah that’s true. I don’t mind female protagonists but not in every game. And they are always imitating men and are lesbian. It’s always the same. At least stellar blade had a good female lead. Unique.
BLM and woke don’t sell. They should all know this. People are waking up and want some cool characters. Most gamers are men and they want to relate to someone. Joel was great. Same with Nate.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

After Uncharted 2, Naughty Dog had a blank cheque as far as I was concerned. Whatever they released, I’d buy it regardless of what the critics said. After the last of us 2, they lost that privilege. From what I’ve seen from that trailer, they’re not on the road to getting it back.

I think uc4 sold 15M copies and as usual surely raked in top reviews and wards back then. Never understood why they didn’t keep going making uc5

 

[Bulletbrain]

Come on, man

It looks good, if it came out this year.

For a 2026, or beyond, title? Not a terribly impressive showing visually.

 

[Eimran]

Not blown away. I expected to see some 2010 Naughty Dog Trailer but got a 2024 Naughty Dog Trailer. I'll wait it out till we see actual game-play and how much politics Druckmann injects.

Is that Lalo Salamanca (Tony Dalton)?

 

[MISTER INVEIGLER]

Ugly

 

[EviLore]

Generated some alternative character designs.

 

[photogaz]

Mixed feelings about this. I’m sure it’ll be good though.

It looks like Sony is going for one big reveal every quarter instead of a showcase.

 

[Nickolaidas]

they are using this actor, right?

Ah, it's this brilliant piece of nose. I mean work.

 

[Rocinante618]

From the blogpost "deepest gameplay in Naughty Dog’s history" with a great soundtrack, sign me up, day 1.

 

[SakkanartSilentJealousy]

Glad they announced new game, can't wait for more gameplay next year.

 

[Stooky]

Being a tough guy is universally loved. Even for women. Who knew. I thought being a meathead space marine is both outdated and dopey. Nope. It goes to show a portion of the population respects traditional guy traits.

in 80's 90's we didn't care. We had Sigourney Weaver, Linda Hamilton, Grace Jones then we had Jamie Lee Curtis, Kathleen Turner Brigette Neilson ,Halley Berry with Margot Kidder in the middle. I don't know what the fuck is going now. Any women with a slight build is now labeled woke. It looks like ND did face and body scan of the actress and GAF has deemed it fugly and masculine. In a trailer were nothing really happens is all setup is now woke. Princess Leia sounds masculine according to gaf so did a lot of women 80's action stars. Shit is beyond stupid.

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[ArtHands]

Priming Jada Pinkett Smith to be the lead actress for the live action adapation

 

[tylrdiablos]

That was surprisingly bad.
It was bland, ham-fisted, stiff camera work, she even had White Knight on the back of her jacket because the designers want people to read too deeply into that sort of thing.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Yeah that’s true. I don’t mind female protagonists but not in every game. And they are always imitating men and are lesbian. It’s always the same. At least stellar blade had a good female lead. Unique.
BLM and woke don’t sell. They should all know this. People are waking up and want some cool characters. Most gamers are men and they want to relate to someone. Joel was great. Same with Nate.

You can tell it’ll be a political game just by the shaving head scene.

It’s the writers way of saying “I don’t want to be girly. I want to be act like a guy or symbolize I’m lesbian”

We won’t hear a lot about this until ND drip feds info but nobody should be surprised if it turns out as lesbians in space.

 

[Jsisto]

Actually now that I think of it, no more heroes has pulled off the retro futuristic sci fi shit pretty well but I think that works because its incredibly self aware.

 

[ProtoByte]

"We were inspired by Akira and Cowboy Bebop!"
Yeah, didn't see that coming (red puffy jacket and totally not the Akira motorbike but as a spaceship).

Seriously, everyone working in games, big budget movies or TV has hopped onto shouting out anime influences, and it's ALWAYS Akira, Cowboy Bebop and Berserk, and I'm tired of all of it.

 

[MayauMiao]

You might mistake it for Avatar: The Last Airbender

Uncanny resemblance

 

[Topher]

Priming Jada Pinkett Smith to be the lead actress for the live action adapation

 

[March Climber]

Seriously, everyone working in games, big budget movies or TV has hopped onto shouting out anime influences, and it's ALWAYS Akira, Cowboy Bebop and Berserk, and I'm tired of all of it.

Give it 10 more years and you'll start to see creators entering the picture who were inspired by late-2000s anime and above.

 

[Games of Today]

As a Naughty Dog suck off since Uncharted 1, I have a few feelings about this.

#1 Why are these characters in their games so unattractive now. Why can’t they just make normal women.

#2 Really not sure how I feel about this title. The “Savage Stalight” game has been a rumor for a long time. So I’m definitely not really surprised by this route their going of making a space game, but Savage Starlight is such a better title than this.

#3 I’m cautiously optimistic about ND doing this setting. As soon as I started Starfield I immediately thought, I bet those ND space game rumors have some sort of truth to them because they could take this planet hopping formula to the next level. And I’m sure they will.

#4 I hope this is being written by someone in the studio other than Druckman. Hopefully he’s busy jerking it to the Last of Us world and presidential matters of running the studio. If this has the same tone as Lost Legacy where the characters are badass women but aren’t overly obnoxious with “They treat me like X because I’m a woman” or “I can do that because I’m a woman.”, it’ll be a pretty sick adventure.

#5 Already saw one person mention they hate the ads. I personally think they are fucking awesome, especially the Sony CD player. Hopefully we can pick our own music in the cockpit.

And finally, #6 I REALLY don’t know how I feel about that robot enemy. I just feel like EVERY game that has some sort of future tech has the same generic looking robots. They always add or subtract arms and legs to make them look a little different. But it’s just a trend I’ve noticed. It basically looks like the Helldivers robots. Idk, that was the least exciting part for me. Maybe there will be varying enemy types.

The biggest positive for me with ND games now are I KNOW I’m going to get waterfalls and their newest water tech, as they are the leaders in this graphical field.

I’ll try and stay positive. I’m kinda 60/40 on this one. Graphics are obviously unbelievable and if they give me a planet with a full blown space thunderstorm I will jerk it to their holy rain graphics which get better in every title they make.

 

[Jinzo Prime]

Uncanny resemblance

 

[StreetsofBeige]

in 80's 90's we didn't care. We had Sigourney Weaver, Linda Hamilton, Grace Jones then we had Jamie Lee Curtis, Kathleen Turner Brigette Neilson ,Halley Berry with Margot Kidder in the middle. I don't know what the fuck is going now. Any women with a slight build is now labeled woke. It looks like ND did face and body scan of the actress and GAF has deemed it fugly and masculine. In a trailer were nothing really happens is all setup is now woke. Princess Leia sounds masculine according to gaf so did a lot of women 80's action stars. Shit is beyond stupid.

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Aside from sigouney weaver shaving her head in aliens3, the rest still had long hair. They also didn’t preach politics or he her they pronouns or have 50/50 chance of being lesbian or bisexual eithet. And grace jones always seemed to have really short hair being manly from the beginning with zero tits.

 

[Branded]

A youtube comment said: "I'm surprised Jaguar is not in this game"

 

[Tomi]

Day oneee
Naught Gods 4 life!!!

 

[Painskiller]

Buying day one. Haters gonna hate.

 

[Saturn Dragon]

Why can't we have a good old corridor third person shooter with a fun pulp storyline featuring COOL WITTY MEN with top notch next gen graphics on my brand new PS5PRO?

Or do I have to wait for Uncharted 2 remake?

 

[peish]

It's boblers are lopsided...

There are no boblers, just creases from an over sized singlet

 

[Kacho]

in 80's 90's we didn't care

In the 80s and 90s we weren't beat over the head with it. Plus we had alpha male characters in abundance, which is what a primarily male audience wants.

 

[Nickolaidas]

So just because the main character is a female some of the brainless people here automatically start calling it woke, like what!

It's this disingenuous bullshit argument that makes me roll my eyes every single time. That's not what is being argued here and you know it.

 

[ProtoByte]

Give it 10 more years and you'll start to see creators entering the picture who were inspired by late-2000s anime and above.

"Omg, JJK and Attack on Titan were my Roman Empire."

It's just so shallow and bandwagony and inauthentic.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

"We were inspired by Akira and Cowboy Bebop!"
Yeah, didn't see that coming (red puffy jacket and totally not the Akira motorbike but as a spaceship).

Seriously, everyone working in games, big budget movies or TV has hopped onto shouting out anime influences, and it's ALWAYS Akira, Cowboy Bebop and Berserk, and I'm tired of all of it.

Heck the new lord of the rings cartoon is anime!

 

[Represent.]

Generated some alternative character designs.

Lol come on man, they are wearing lip gloss, have perfectly plucked eye-brows and hair that just had an curling iron used on it... completely unrealistic. Looks like they're about to go on a date. Not fight killing machines.

From the blogpost "deepest gameplay in Naughty Dog’s history" with a great soundtrack, sign me up, day 1.

Sad we cant talk about this instead of freaking...hair. But yep - super hyped.

Gonna be a great mix of melee and gunplay + parkour. ND style, so you know it'll be top tier.

 

[Roronoa Zoro]

Terrible main character design. Ugh.

Yeah that with Druckman writing has me worried. Gonna wait on reviews after always previously preordering naughty dog games before TLOU2

 

[Saturn Dragon]

Generated some alternative character designs.

Black Cowbe girl. Looks awesome.

Bald smelly lesbian not.

 

[captainnapalm]

Gross-looking bald lady aside, I think the most surprising thing about this trailer is how unoriginal everything feels. The girlboss quirkily sucking on a straw, all the borrowed aesthetics from old sci-fi, Guardians-like 80s music etc. Damn Neil, not very original bro. Surely even pro-woke people must be sick to death of the girlboss archetype? Woke art just repeats the same characters and situations over and over again.

 

[Roronoa Zoro]

"We were inspired by Akira and Cowboy Bebop!"
Yeah, didn't see that coming (red puffy jacket and totally not the Akira motorbike but as a spaceship).

Seriously, everyone working in games, big budget movies or TV has hopped onto shouting out anime influences, and it's ALWAYS Akira, Cowboy Bebop and Berserk, and I'm tired of all of it.

They need to reference Ghibli or Shinkai or something at least. It doesn't even have to be obscure. Hell how about DB, Naruto, or One Piece?

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Lol come on man, they are wearing lip gloss, have perfectly plucked eye-brows and hair that just had an curling iron used on it... completely unrealistic. Looks like they're about to go on a date. Not fight killing machines.


Sad we cant talk about this instead of freaking...hair. But yep - super hyped.

Gonna be a great mix of melee and gunplay + parkour. ND style, so you know it'll be top tier.

To be fair, if women should be dumbed down due to a games dystopian or grimy setting, why aren’t the guys made dumber, dirtier and slobbier? They are universally still good looking guys.

 

[neocycle]

No, thank you.
Naughty Dog is dead to me.

 

[FingerBang]

I'm cautiously optimistic about this one. The visuals and the gameplay will be spectacular.

I wish it were a male main character, though. He can be black if you need quotas. I don't care.

Gross-looking bald lady aside, I think the most surprising thing about this trailer is how unoriginal everything feels. The girlboss quirkily sucking on a straw, all the borrowed aesthetics from old sci-fi, Guardians-like 80s music etc. Damn Neil, not very original bro. Surely even pro-woke people must be sick to death of the girlboss archetype? Woke art just repeats the same characters and situations over and over again.

They aren't because every game becomes a WOKE vs ANTI-WOKE and they're constantly under attack and need to defend their own.

 

[Fabieter]

The investors already starting selling off Sony stock after seeing the new ND game.

 

[March Climber]

"Omg, JJK and Attack on Titan were my Roman Empire."

It's just so shallow and bandwagony and inauthentic.

Eh what's art without inspiration right?

For me it always depends on how you use the inspiration and where you take it. There's not enough here to go on aside from what you've listed.

 

[Games of Today]

WTF is WRONG with Western games character design?!?!?

srsly, I'm so fucking tired of it

Same man. Every woman is allergic to hair.

 

[mrabott]

Holy crap with these awful looking characters.

Bring back the generic space marines please.

She's a generic space marine. Just with small boobs and a vagina (I hope).

 

[drotahorror]

The dude with the Tesla?

 

[Days like these...]

Where is this light source coming from? It pissed me off. I turned the trailer off there.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Generated some alternative character designs.

And the AI site took what? 30 seconds to make each pic? Looks 10x better.

 

[Represent.]

To be fair, if women should be dumbed down due to a games dystopian or grimy setting, why aren’t the guys made dumber, dirtier and slobbier? They are universally still good looking guys.

Dont know dont care, i just play the game and what the character looks like is literally the last thing i care about.

I can play as Handsome James Bond or Ugly as shit Frankenstein

 

[Shubh_C63]

Also...someone save me from the souls combat. Give me sci fi pew pew.