TastyPastry
Member
serious question do we actually know her pronouns? if the bald lady is just a regular “she” that’s actually pretty conservative from druckmann
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Durin
Member
Yeah, it's been 12 years since Naughty Dog made a new IP. Thought there would at least be something to be curious about.
The Fartist
Gold Member
mansoor1980
Member
looks great , im in
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Yeah, I don't buy most of the complaints.
Ghost of Yotei is also "controversial" because there's a lead female protagonist.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
You can if the spaceship goes back in time through a wormhole.Can't have pronoun BS if it's set in the 80s
Quest Activated: Educate 1980s people on pronouns. And not English class pronouns. Personal ID pronouns.
The Fartist
Gold Member
That's not how wormholes work, dude.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
And so do is Lou ii snd horizon. At least Spider-Man and days gone have make leads.
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FunkMiller
Member
I think you're missing the point people are trying to make.
Like it or not, we currently exist in a video gaming culture where a majority of western development teams are consciously and deliberately trying to pull their games away from appealing to the largest cross section of the gaming audience.
Whether you're comfortable with it or not, this is indeed a controversial thing to do - and has been met in the recent past with the failure of AAA games. That Naughty Dog are seemingly going down the same path is disappointing for many.
Gamers respond best to characters that either represent them, they empathise with, or that they find attractive. There has to be a connection formed for a game to be successful. After all, you 'become' the character when you play the game.
How many of that largest console and PC gaming audience are going to want to play as this character, given how similar it is to many other failed characters in recent games - all of which have consciously been designed not to appeal to them?
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peish
Member
Generated some alternative character designs.
Asian developers on bad ass female protag: keeping simple and effective.Western developers view on female protag : shaving heads and boblers butch male characteristics badass
CompleteGlobalSaturation
Member
Fuck me - another Western dev with yet another shit female character design.
I actually miss the days of male protagonists.
I actually miss the days of male protagonists.
Trilobit
Member
The only way women can be powerful is if they act, look and dress like men. I love this new brand of feminism that elevates men to the highest standard a woman should reach for.
Topher
Identifies as young
That's a good point. I don't have a problem with the character, but I'd change her for one of those in a heartbeat to not have this vitriol around the game. Sucks being a fan of Naughty Dog games and constantly having discussion go sideways because of stuff like this.
CompleteGlobalSaturation
Member
It's hilarious how feminism is nothing to do with female identity, but instead, to emulate and copy all male traits.
Aurelius
Member
Surprised it wasn't a Jaguar.
The Fartist
Gold Member
How do we know she's lesbian? I'm not saying she's not, she very well could be, but did the trailer mention anything to confirm this? Did I miss something? There are plenty of bad-ass hetero women in real life, I watch the UFC.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Of course she is.
And if not, she will not have interest in men anyway
Shubh_C63
Member
Ok.
Would a beautiful hourglass figure blonde hair woman hurling a 3kg Axe into a monster would make more sense story wise than a hardened bitchy bald bicep looking woman doing so ?
Not to mention if the writing if good only the people equivalent to a military background would venture to a planet not discovered for 600 years.
Would a beautiful hourglass figure blonde hair woman hurling a 3kg Axe into a monster would make more sense story wise than a hardened bitchy bald bicep looking woman doing so ?
Not to mention if the writing if good only the people equivalent to a military background would venture to a planet not discovered for 600 years.
Randall365
Member
Annoying that we don’t know their pronouns yet so I can’t tell people how awesome this character looks in a respectful way.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Yep. That’s why stellar blade is 10x better when it comes to woman protagonist. She is very cool, strong and does not pretend to have man traits
Yoboman
Member
You think people wouldn't complain stillGenerated some alternative character designs.
The Fartist
Gold Member
Sounds like you're hoping she is so you can shit on the game even more. I'm gonna wait and see.
IAmAnAgnostic
Member
Looks fucking terrible, generic, brain rottingly woke, with horrible dialogue and atrocious character design.
Yep, it's a Cuckmann original product, the second he's ever made fully. (UC4 was taken over mid development so he could only partially ruin it)
Let's see how many people show up when he can't lie and trick people following the hype of a great product prior like in TLOU2.
Yep, it's a Cuckmann original product, the second he's ever made fully. (UC4 was taken over mid development so he could only partially ruin it)
Let's see how many people show up when he can't lie and trick people following the hype of a great product prior like in TLOU2.
Banjo64
cumsessed
Hahahahahahahahah!
All of that ‘you just wait to see what ND’s been cooking!’ over the past 3 years and it’s just 2 of the most bland, bog standard BlackRock girl boss characters that you’ve seen in every other single AAA 2024 game.
I’d say you couldn’t make it up, but this is Cuckmann’s ND, and the studio clearly died when Hennig and Straley left.
Enjoy convincing us you’re excited for this one bros.
All of that ‘you just wait to see what ND’s been cooking!’ over the past 3 years and it’s just 2 of the most bland, bog standard BlackRock girl boss characters that you’ve seen in every other single AAA 2024 game.
I’d say you couldn’t make it up, but this is Cuckmann’s ND, and the studio clearly died when Hennig and Straley left.
Enjoy convincing us you’re excited for this one bros.
Viruz
Member
That's the only thing I'll remember since there is zero gameplay.
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
First scene is her shaving her head. Also this is Naughty Dog.
Lukaku's First Touch
Member
From that gif with the sword I can tell it's going to be a souls like but with woke all over.
FunkMiller
Member
This does rather feel like Naughty Dog being a little too big headed for their own good. They think they can make a game with whatever protagonist they like, and damn the response from a large cross section of their audience - who have proved repeatedly that they won't buy games with characters they don't like - to the tune of millions of lost dollars.
DirtyBast8rd
Member
She identifies as a potato.
Alan Silvestro
Member
You want to put a woman in the lead? Welcome, OK, we've all been fans of female protagonists since Lara Croft! But then... why are you making her clean-shaven and man-faced? Is Naughty dog afraid of women? Are games funded by lesbian communities receiving funding etc etc? Let's hope they at least change the face of this rubbish character, maybe some ‘noise’ on our part will help....
Represent.
Banned
I bet my ass you didn't shed any tears over this character.
But for some reason, in 2024, you guys are just a bunch of insufferable crybabies, tainting and spoiling every single topic.
From Prince of Persia to Ghosts of Yotei, to Ass Creed Shadows, to Witcher 4 to Intergalactic, the tears have been non-stop.
You see a woman that isn't a 10/10, its woke.
Man dies in a game, its woke.
A bald girl, its woke.
Woman kills man in a game, its woke.
A non-white character in a certain setting, movie or game, its woke.
A non-straight lead character, its woke.
A character with dreadlocks, its woke.
Woman teaches a man something in a movie, its woke.
Any sort of politics, its woke.
Black guy based off historical figure in Japan, its woke.
I cant goon to her, unplayable woke trash.
Every comment section. Every new game announcement.
You guys are just as insufferable as the actual woke mob.
Theres a bunch of crying in the Witcher 4 thread too talking about Ciri being too ugly. Jesus. Its everywhere.
Exhibit A:
L M A O
Roberts
Member
I like the visual aesthetic - not trying to go for photorealistic but just very detailed cartoony look. Eyes are well done, so they get to do a lot of acting and that almost never happens in games. I don't even mind the main character, but holy shit, this smells of everything I dislike about ND. Trying to go for something a bit more lighthearted but still ending up super forced and dull.
Codeblew
Member
She is either a lesbian or about ready to go in for chemo.
Someone ate their own boogers on stage?
Topher
Identifies as young
ZiggyPop1991
Member
I promise you that does not trigger me at all. What are we? High schoolers? You're going comment to comment to defend your opinion on a fictional character you saw in a video for less than 5 minutes. Y'all don't even use the word woke right because you probably don't even know what it means. Touch grass if a game character you haven't even controlled yet has you this pressed.
The Fartist
Gold Member
I'll still wait and see. Again, I'm not saying she's not, but to just assume because she's buzzing her head (not shaving) gives off a lot of small-dick energy.
Mibu no ookami
Banned
The hate squad is out... y'all are a sad bunch... but Sony's still eating good right now.
Total love letter to the best media we grew up with with naughty dog it's going to have epic gameplay too.
Love Sol Badguy's sword and the red jacket.
Total love letter to the best media we grew up with with naughty dog it's going to have epic gameplay too.
Love Sol Badguy's sword and the red jacket.
Branded
Member
FunkMiller
Member
The fact we can't have a sensible conversation over how tired this kind of girl boss character is in 2024 is... well... tiresome.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
It probably won’t be released for 3 years too. Maybe even a PS6 game. ND always releases a big game final year of a console. And this is probably it unless they also got lou3 in the works.
As an alternate choice, they could had made Factions 2.
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