Loomy
Thinks Microaggressions are Real
Sure, why not? Seems like a nice enough person.
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ElFenomeno
Member
You never go full Concord.
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
Well, yeah, it's not like she's a focal point or anything
I gotta say - all the feigned controversy nonsense aside - I found this the worst trailer NDD has produced to date.
Not because it isn't exceptionally well crafted (it is) or because there's anything wrong with content/characters (there isn't) but because the whole thing is the most cynical, bitter, focus-tested to hell manipulative engineered for 'engagement' piece of media I've this side of Force Awakens. Or Ready Player One... Or Mario Movie.
Every single one of which - ended up being just as shallow, empty, with nothing to say about anything, waste of viewer's time - as their trailers suggested.
And this has the exact same feel about it - from the overindulgent fan-service nostalgia baiting of 80ies and 90ies, to 'this will REALLY get people talking/fighting/never stop arguing' to 'oh look - shiny action shit you totally remember as a kid' etc etc.
NDD even in trailers used to actually have something to say - this - well - doesn't. And I'm not convinced the game will either.
Not because it isn't exceptionally well crafted (it is) or because there's anything wrong with content/characters (there isn't) but because the whole thing is the most cynical, bitter, focus-tested to hell manipulative engineered for 'engagement' piece of media I've this side of Force Awakens. Or Ready Player One... Or Mario Movie.
Every single one of which - ended up being just as shallow, empty, with nothing to say about anything, waste of viewer's time - as their trailers suggested.
And this has the exact same feel about it - from the overindulgent fan-service nostalgia baiting of 80ies and 90ies, to 'this will REALLY get people talking/fighting/never stop arguing' to 'oh look - shiny action shit you totally remember as a kid' etc etc.
NDD even in trailers used to actually have something to say - this - well - doesn't. And I'm not convinced the game will either.
Midn1ght
Member
Astray
Member
The best scenario was honestly Space Marine 2, where the YouTube grifters initially made a hissy fit over female characters, then once they saw the game was successful, they turned around and said the game was an example for other devs lmao.
Remarkable dumbassery on display.
Guardian Monkey
Member
PeteBull
Member
I knew that jaguar comercial was terrible coz ppl were referencing it a lot over the internet, but fk, its now a shame to own jaguar, they had to have some srs sales dip after such a fucked up commercial at the jaguar xD
That new ND game protag would fit right in with those tho ;p
Aenima
Member
Looking at the game descripting the idea is that the protagonist is gonna get stranded in a planet where no one was able to escape, and it will be all about trying to escape that planet. So i would not expect any space exploration.
Except this is GTA and from the trailer,Lucia seems like she maybe be the leader of the duo.Indeed, full head of hair, feminine face, nice childbearing wide hips, its all the things heterosexual men love, nothing wrong with that
Salty Pickle
Member
Alien 3?
Humdinger
Gold Member
Just watched it. First impressions: Unimpressed, but reserving judgment until I know more. The protagonist, at least the way she's presented here, comes off cliche - "she's tough and ain't gonna take no guff," snarky adolescent rebel attitude.... I see that she's one of 5 "aces" and is trying to track down another, so hopefully the cast builds out and becomes more interesting.
I have a built-in suspicion because I didn't like what Druckmann did with either Uncharted 4 or TLOU2. I used to love ND as a studio, but at this point, I need to be sold on the game, and I'm not yet.
I have a built-in suspicion because I didn't like what Druckmann did with either Uncharted 4 or TLOU2. I used to love ND as a studio, but at this point, I need to be sold on the game, and I'm not yet.
Loomy
Thinks Microaggressions are Real
Jaguar sales were cratering long before the rebrand. Which is why they drastically changed it. They need to do something for the brand to survive. Will this save it? Who knows. Better that letting it die.
Bartski
Gold Member
Wow. Never heard of Hellstar Remina but now I googled it and I regret it.Btw, this random post from 4chan a while back was off the mark on some details, but still seems to may have had some legitimacy. Take it with a grain of salt obviously:
Loomy
Thinks Microaggressions are Real
This should be the default.
Sethbacca
Member
The real problem is caring what your family thinks about who you choose to bring to dinner. Stop living your life by other people’s standards. If this is your baseline though it would explain why so many of you are miserable.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Why does that Star Wars Databank run with that pic of Kay Vess, when the every other time we see her she looks like Botox and plastic surgery gone too far?When you make Kay Wess look attractive, you have gone too far.
I know why.
OccamsLightsaber
Regularly boosts GAF member count to cry about 'right wing gaf' - Voter #3923781
The man is a generational talent I swear.
IAmAnAgnostic
Member
Concord devs loved it too, based on their Tweets on release date.
I wonder how they're doing now
Hellstar Remina is basically cosmic horror perfection.
But if you want something 'less on the nose' on the same theme - Melancholy by Lars Von Trier is basically the same story too.
An 'AAA' game doing a story anywhere resembling those notes though ...
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That's what makes eveything more sad, it's like representantion of women has to be made only in a way where they're all stoic butch lesbians who have the same d-bag awful personality their creators label as "edgy/strong"
Imtjnotu
Member
Bartski
Gold Member
I mean in a spoiler contextHellstar Remina is basically cosmic horror perfection.
But if you want something 'less on the nose' on the same theme - Melancholy by Lars Von Trier is basically the same story too.
An 'AAA' game doing a story anywhere resembling those notes though ...
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
GoTG success really influenced some recent games.
SW Outlaws
Concord
Intergalactic
All going for that retro sci-fi setting with a female badass lead (or Concord with about half).
It does seem to work for the movies (all highly rated movies making big sales), but games wise doesn't seem as easy to pull off. But key thing is GotG doesn't push the man-girl message.
SW Outlaws
Concord
Intergalactic
All going for that retro sci-fi setting with a female badass lead (or Concord with about half).
It does seem to work for the movies (all highly rated movies making big sales), but games wise doesn't seem as easy to pull off. But key thing is GotG doesn't push the man-girl message.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
People would still complain about this. 100%The world wants more ugly main characters, dammit. It's an easy fix too. Like just make her look kinda like she really looks.
Perfectly suitable.
PeteBull
Member
Women dont think like us, men, do, they need validation of their social circle/friends/family for guy to qualify, and that is good thing, otherwise u end up with tons of:
Sounds exactly like space exploration.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Much better. But longer hair and lose the nose ring.The world wants more ugly main characters, dammit. It's an easy fix too. Like just make her look kinda like she really looks.
Perfectly suitable.
Ridicululzz
Member
I’m not a fan of using actual Hollywood actors and their likeness in games. Like, in theory it should be the same as when they’re in movies and playing different characters and what not, but it just feels really weird to me when it’s done in games
Shits the same for every generation.OK, grandpa.
There are trend chasers who fit into a naturally evolving amorphous style associated with their age group, and then there are those who prefer more conservative beauty standards bitching about it.
FalconPunch
Member
The should just change the name of the studio to Politically Correct Dog. There's nothing Naughty about this....
Sethbacca
Member
I mean if you're a conformist and follower I guess do what other people do so you can fit in if that's your thing. If you're approaching middle age with that mentality though, just realize you should have grown out of that a few decades ago. Just do you, fuck what everyone else thinks whether you're a man or a woman.
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Wandering Leopard
Member
The key factor for me is that it plays well. I also have no issue with a Vasquez (Aliens) like character as the lead but again, the gameplay has to be good.
It doesn't make sense to me but some people overthink gaming waaaay too much.
It doesn't make sense to me but some people overthink gaming waaaay too much.
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Toons
Member
I loved everything about that trailer. The visuals, the voices, the soundtrack.... this is one to watch for me.
Wow
VideoGameEnjoyer
Member
Nothing in the trailer that was especially exciting. But it's a ND new IP in a Sci-Fi setting. This is a huge announcement with a very good chance to be an incredible game.
Taking nothing away except a so-so MC design, and turning this into more woke wars is just so damn lame.
Taking nothing away except a so-so MC design, and turning this into more woke wars is just so damn lame.
What are you talking about? Tati Gabrielle game model looks close to her real life appearance,if you or anybody else don't find her attractive then that's your personal opinion,but Tati looks relatively attractive to me.
Katatonic
Member
As in a great game that got whined to death?
Doom85
Member
Pete flat out said ALL women who are bald/shaved are super unattractive for “normal heterosexual men”, in post #1,581, in response to being asked about the actress herself. So yes, Pete’s argument apparently extends to real women.
And in fucking poor taste considering my cousin has been battling breast cancer for a while now and has had to shave her head this year, so you know, hearing a guy casually declare all bald/shaved women as objectively unattractive (since he claims this is true for all “normal heterosexual men”) is legit disgusting behavior in my eyes. Dude could have just said he prefers long hair, but nah, he had to go the insulting route.
But I like to believe my cousin’s husband is a decent enough guy to still find her attractive in spite of that, so at least she’s with someone who, “apparently”, isn’t a “normal heterosexual man” based on Pete’s argument.
Seriously, Pete, WTF?!
And he can get criticized for it the exact same way Drunkmann’s tastes are in this very thread.
Demi Moore did this 27 years ago
Still would smash
Natalie Portman in V for Vendetta was the first one I noticed back in the day, but this is a solid pick too.
For real, if anything the hottest women can manage just fine without long hair. Like, unless someone finds nothing about a woman attractive EXCEPT her hair, the idea that a bald/shaved woman could never be attractive is just laughable to me.
Like, that’s like being given your favorite ice cream with all your favorite toppings, but turning it down because it came in a bowl and not a waffle cone. Like, the ice cream should be what you’re here for, getting hung up on the waffle cone is a rookie move.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
No idea what kind of game this is going to be, but I'm not gonna dismiss it just because it has a female protagonist with a shaved head. Will probably be a very good game!
People already saying this is another Concord, chill, lol.
People already saying this is another Concord, chill, lol.
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DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Yup, their idea of a “Strong Female Character” is one who is stripped of any femininity and behaves like the most “toxic” male character you could imagine.
Nah, I've been told Concord only failed because it entered a saturated market.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Some love it pulled like reins when clapping cheeks from the back tho.