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Naughty Dog Announces Intergalactic: The Heretic Prophet

TintoConCasera

I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
All the laws he was talking about, and also his whining about “empowerment”, I’m pretty sure he wasn’t talking about New Zealand.

John Lewis Lol GIF by Waitrose & Partners
Heh, that's between you and him I guess.

I just don't get why people get mad at men lusting for young women, don't think there's anything wrong with that.

Probably not a topic for a videogame board, so I'll leave it here.
 

Doom85

Member
It's legal and they're both consenting adults in the situation. I'm really not seeing the issue here. So some dads would get mad at the choice their adult daughter made? That's what's making you angry? What if the mom is okay with it, would that make it better for you? lmao

Okay, maybe learn how hypothetical situations work and then come back to me. It’s like I’m trying to teach you how to play Risk and you keep bringing up Monopoly.
 

Senua

Member
Are people so delusional that they think this game is like Concord?

This trailer truly broke some of you, remember when these same folks were convinced TLOU 2 and its wokeness was going to impact that game? Remember when that shit never happened. Game still went on to get accolades and a tv screen adaptation. It’s like fantasy land thinking, see you day 1 in the OT asking about how to beat the first boss.
What like them killing off the most loved character in the series and making you play half the game as a roided up she-beast?
 

Stooky

Banned
Lara was attractive. People like seeing attractive people in starring roles, that's why the vast majority of protagonists in big movies are hot. That goes for men and women. The difference is men are still attractive in games, that has not changed, what has changed in western games is female characters have been defeminised for feminist agenda purposes.
I think you are down playing Lara they had pin up posters of her in mens magazine, they got Angelina Jolie to play her in a movie and thats a step beyond attractive. I know there was movement to portray women more realistically in games I wouldn't call that defeminised. It was something that was focused grouped to death in effort to bring more women into games. How ever i can see why people would say that if they use to playing Lara type characters. I do think there is a general push for realism is in games just like what happened to films in the 70's. There is feminist agenda but not as much as a gaf would make it seem.
 

DrFigs

Member
The only thing tiring is doing this same schtick with every single game

In the past few month we've had GTA6, Witcher 4, Intergalactic, Avowed, South of Midnight, Fable, Indiana Jones, Metaphor being the subjects of this week's woke controversy

Like I get the annoyance if you want a character a certain way but it's a mild inconvenience at most. The pendulum swings only lasts until you become the one everyone is sick of hearing from

I'm not skipping the biggest games in the next few years because of ragebaiters up in their feels
Not really even sure i have the words for it. hate merchants on youtube are ruining media.

the comments about tlou2 are also disappointing. why do people want games to take less risks? why is this something people are still mad about to this day? it's fucking sad.
 
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Ridicululzz

Member
Okay, maybe learn how hypothetical situations work and then come back to me. It’s like I’m trying to teach you how to play Risk and you keep bringing up Monopoly.
I get that you have no argument to stand on, and have to result to deflection.

Actually answer the question: What's wrong with two consenting adults having sex. Who cares if the dad gets angry? Who cares if it's me or you that's the dad?
 

OccamsLightsaber

Regularly boosts GAF member count to cry about 'right wing gaf' - Voter #3923781
Nope, and nope, fk dating old hags.

We(men) value youth, fertility, inexperience, it was always like that, beauty industry as a whole is trying to take back the time: make up, plastic surgeries of all kinds, all expensive cosmetics etc, its all to make women appear young and beatiful.


Straight from the link, the actual results of that meta-study :)


You need some dude in a suit to tell you what you like? Sounds pretty beta to me.
 
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I like retro futurism, but I despise woke stuff...

Why did they had to put Will Smith's wife as the protagonist?! They say "from the studio that made these franchises" because I doubt there's a single person still working there.
I dislike that as well as I don’t care what games you made in the past

It’s like saying here are the Miami Dolphins about to flop again in the cold weather but its the team that brought you the 1972 undefeated season so still please love us
 

Yoboman

Member
Not really even sure i have the words for it. hate merchants on youtube are ruining media.
The most annoying thing is NeoGAF wasn't like this. We all came back because Reee was obsessed with culture wars

Now we are getting 2k threads here crying in the opposite direction

Like be normal people. Detatch politics from your life a bit and you'll find more enjoyment in everything.

Me, I'm perfectly happy to goon to Stellar Blade one week and then play Witcher 4 with "ugly Ciri" the next week
 

Senua

Member
I think you are down playing Lara they had pin up posters of her in mens magazine, they got Angelina Jolie to play her in a movie and thats a step beyond attractive. I know there was movement to portray women more realistically in games I wouldn't call that defeminised. It was something that was focused grouped to death in effort to bring more women into games. How ever i can see why people would say that if they use to playing Lara type characters. I do think there is a general push for realism is in games just like what happened to films in the 70's. There is feminist agenda but not as much as a gaf would make it seem.
No I was saying Lara was attractive while most western female VG protags are most definitely not any more. Angenila Jolie as Lara was beyond sexy. There's nothing wrong with realism, not every character has to have a full face of makeup at all times and wear short skirts but we've gone too far the other way. They actively make female character models less attractive than their real life models, while the men look identical. It's a trend and pattern over the last few years that leftist types told us wasn't happening, and that we're just sexist bigs who want every model to look like Stellar Blade, but that's just not true.

GWPKENya8AAFr0h
 

Doom85

Member
Nope, and nope, fk dating old hags.

We(men) value youth, fertility, inexperience, it was always like that, beauty industry as a whole is trying to take back the time: make up, plastic surgeries of all kinds, all expensive cosmetics etc, its all to make women appear young and beatiful.


Straight from the link, the actual results of that meta-study :)


“fk dating old hags”

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Question Mark What GIF by MOODMAN
Dog What GIF by MOODMAN


Pete gets accused of being excited for when girls have JUST become 18, and his “totally relevant to the accusation” defense is…..”fk dating old hags”.

Jason Bateman No GIF by Emmys


Like I said, reading comprehension issues. It’s like I’m trying to get a game of Jenga going here, and some of you all are saying it was Colonel Mustard with the Lead Pipe as if that’s relevant or logical at all.

King Of The Hill No GIF
 

Stooky

Banned
You're not wrong.

But like someone else said, the industry created this problem.

I would love nothing more than to go back to those old conversations, but I don't blame people for pointing out the obvious here. I used to not pay any attention to it, but it's getting ridiculous at this point. It's clear many people miss playing games as old school, bad ass, more masculine and serious characters to experience escapism without modern day, forced developer tiktok fetishes being injected. It's everywhere now and it's exhausting...and I am tired of pretending it's not.

Now it's mostly all the same old "girl boss" characters with an attitude and gen z dialogue with over the top toxic positivity in most of these new games nowadays. Feel free to disagree, I don't even care what people call me anymore, but this is what I see and I'd be lying to everyone if I said it doesn't affect the overall appeal of a game, movie, tv show, etc..

A few years ago I would have salivated at the thought of a sci-fi Naughty Dog game. Now imagine the reception of this game's reveal yesterday if the main character for Intergllactic was a character resembling Solid Snake or Nathan Drake instead of teenage Jada Pinkett Smith, voiced by David Hayter or Nolan North. But nope....we can't have that anymore. Because fuck the old target audience, we want to attract a new demographic of players. We'll see how that plays out.

I am also not blind. The old GDC keynotes from Druckmann where he was virtue signaling and mirroring Anita Sarkeesian's obsessive remarks, all the recent years of media and social media brainwashing people telling them how bad or racist men are, the totally unnecessary Sweet Baby Inc consultations and threatening influences that have infected SIE and other companies, the fake corporate lingo advocating this stuff saying they care when we all know they don't give a shit...

It's all just exhausting. So yeah, we're going to talk about it.
I see your point. Im over nathan drake, solid snake types its been repeated to death. I thought Chloe in Lost Legacy was a good direction. Im super curious to see where this game is headed.

I have never found Jamie Lee Curtis attractive but thought she looked pretty decent in the True Lies hotel dance scene
hmmm check Trading Places
 
They have no problem conscripting and recruiting 18 year old men for war, trialing an 18 year old as adult, letting an 18 year old vote on the fate of the country but apparently an 18 year is supposed to be a child when it comes to choosing a sex partner. Selective empowerment wanting to be allowed to throw away all agency and play the victim when beneficial.
This is imo a puritanical way of thinking hence why aoc is terrifying to them due to loss of control. Imagine the hilarity when they encounter other cultures that teach sex education to their children at a younger age thus the later’s 18yr olds are better equipped to take what they want.

Aka at 18 you will go to jail for x/y/z, do what you want but don’t get anyone pregnant.
 

Doom85

Member
I get that you have no argument to stand on, and have to result to deflection.

Actually answer the question: What's wrong with two consenting adults having sex. Who cares if the dad gets angry? Who cares if it's me or you that's the dad?

You don’t answer the question I asked first. I’m not answering shit until you’re honest about what you would LEGIT do if you were the dad. But my patience has run thin, so spare me from YOUR deflection.

See Ya Adele GIF by E!
 

nkarafo

Member
They say "from the studio that made these franchises" because I doubt there's a single person still working there.
They parade their older hits because otherwise nobody would care about this one.

It's a marketing trick. This game will sell well only because it's a game made by the company who made these other games you loved. Not because of the game's own merits. They know this.
 

proandrad

Member
Man. TLOU2 really fucked up a lot of people. Druckmann is probably shitting himself laughing and absorbing all of this anger so he can evolve into his final form.
I hope not, that’s some petty shit like the Avowed team. It’s one thing to make a game that shares your own personal beliefs. But if you’re are just doing it to piss people off that should get you fired. Neil comes across as someone who is just making what he wants to make with no challenges. Kojima does the same thing, sometimes you get a universally loved game like Metal Gear Solid and other times shit like Death Stranding.
 

Gudji

Member
Saw the trailer twice. I'm assuming that's the main character, I'm not a fan of the design but we'll see.

The gameplay bit reminded me a bit of souls games for some reason? But it seems she also had guns? I know nothing on the game btw, only saw the trailer.
 
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DrFigs

Member
The most annoying thing is NeoGAF wasn't like this. We all came back because Reee was obsessed with culture wars

Now we are getting 2k threads here crying in the opposite direction

Like be normal people. Detatch politics from your life a bit and you'll find more enjoyment in everything.

Me, I'm perfectly happy to goon to Stellar Blade one week and then play Witcher 4 with "ugly Ciri" the next week
I'm in favor of games having more attractive female characters. it's the embarrassing gamer outrage thing that bothers me. we also saw this with stellar blade, where despite the overly sexualized main character, grummz and others were still complaining that the game was possibly woke, because of censorship by sony. nothing is enough for these people. the childish tantrum about things being woke is extremely frustrating and makes it unenjoyable to talk about media.

but then there's another angle with naughty dog games, where people pretend to have these principled issues about things being woke or not woke. but really they're just mad that the story in the last of us 2 didn't play out like they wanted it to, and it's become fashionable to hate the studio. it's hard to fathom that people can be this immature.
 
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No I was saying Lara was attractive while most western female VG protags are most definitely not any more. Angenila Jolie as Lara was beyond sexy. There's nothing wrong with realism, not every character has to have a full face of makeup at all times and wear short skirts but we've gone too far the other way. They actively make female character models less attractive than their real life models, while the men look identical. It's a trend and pattern over the last few years that leftist types told us wasn't happening, and that we're just sexist bigs who want every model to look like Stellar Blade, but that's just not true.

GWPKENya8AAFr0h
I feel bad for all those RL girls lol oof
 

Stooky

Banned
No I was saying Lara was attractive while most western female VG protags are most definitely not any more. Angenila Jolie as Lara was beyond sexy. There's nothing wrong with realism, not every character has to have a full face of makeup at all times and wear short skirts but we've gone too far the other way. They actively make female character models less attractive than their real life models, while the men look identical. It's a trend and pattern over the last few years that leftist types told us wasn't happening, and that we're just sexist bigs who want every model to look like Stellar Blade, but that's just not true.

GWPKENya8AAFr0h
lol some of those are just bad cg models. For Aloe the worst frame you could pick. Mary J actresss would not fit/blend with the other characters of spiderman 2. She's too hot. Star wars outlaws i agree if they got the rights to use her face.
 

PeteBull

Member
No I was saying Lara was attractive while most western female VG protags are most definitely not any more. Angenila Jolie as Lara was beyond sexy. There's nothing wrong with realism, not every character has to have a full face of makeup at all times and wear short skirts but we've gone too far the other way. They actively make female character models less attractive than their real life models, while the men look identical. It's a trend and pattern over the last few years that leftist types told us wasn't happening, and that we're just sexist bigs who want every model to look like Stellar Blade, but that's just not true.

GWPKENya8AAFr0h
Yups, western AAA devs are known to uglify females for years already.
I think last goodlooking female from sony devs was an android, back on ps4 aka 1,8tf gpu with superweak jaguar cpu, so we know its not hardware issue

 

tmlDan

Member
They parade their older hits because otherwise nobody would care about this one.

It's a marketing trick. This game will sell well only because it's a game made by the company who made these other games you loved. Not because of the game's own merits. They know this.
yea ,because their last 3 games didnt win GOTY's almost everywhere. Unless you're including those in "older" hits
 
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gow3isben

Member
The actress is actually decent looking lets be honest why do these damn studios get these pretty models and make them repulsive in game?
 
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Ridicululzz

Member
You don’t answer the question I asked first. I’m not answering shit until you’re honest about what you would LEGIT do if you were the dad. But my patience has run thin, so spare me from YOUR deflection.
lol Deflection? That's rich, I've already said: WHO CARES. My supposed daughter in this hypothetical is an adult and can make and learn from her own decisions.

I'm guessing you won't like this answer, and probably try and say that *I* would think otherwise.

You keep going on about reading comprehension issues, but it seems like you have some yourself. :messenger_tears_of_joy:

Now actually answer my question: What's wrong with two consenting adults having sex?
 
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Pop

Member
No I was saying Lara was attractive while most western female VG protags are most definitely not any more. Angenila Jolie as Lara was beyond sexy. There's nothing wrong with realism, not every character has to have a full face of makeup at all times and wear short skirts but we've gone too far the other way. They actively make female character models less attractive than their real life models, while the men look identical. It's a trend and pattern over the last few years that leftist types told us wasn't happening, and that we're just sexist bigs who want every model to look like Stellar Blade, but that's just not true.

GWPKENya8AAFr0h

You hate to see it
 

proandrad

Member
No I was saying Lara was attractive while most western female VG protags are most definitely not any more. Angenila Jolie as Lara was beyond sexy. There's nothing wrong with realism, not every character has to have a full face of makeup at all times and wear short skirts but we've gone too far the other way. They actively make female character models less attractive than their real life models, while the men look identical. It's a trend and pattern over the last few years that leftist types told us wasn't happening, and that we're just sexist bigs who want every model to look like Stellar Blade, but that's just not true.

GWPKENya8AAFr0h
Devs did them dirty, they are all smoke shows.
 

Aces High

Member
I'm not understanding the controversy; is it because it's led by a woman, because she's a person of color, or because of listening to The Pet Shop Boys?
It's bad character design.

"Bad" as in it alienates the target audience.

Luxury communists from Californian develop games for the "modern audience". But in the past two years we've seen this audience doesn't exist.

There's not enough people out there who want to play as an arrogant passive aggressive boss bitch for 30+ hours. At least not enough to recoup AAAA gaming costs.

And that's probably the reason why they started to get sponsoring from third-party corporations.

Because, you know, attractive, likeable and feminine women are bad bad. But corporate money generated in Adidas sweat shops in Asia, yes, that's great as long as it helps the cause...

Fucking hypocrites.
 

Rudius

Member
All looks great for me except this awful (modern) chara design.

Really don’t want to play with this kind of ugly character…
That's how I feel about this. Even the Marvel humor I can stomach, however butt-ugly "women" just to piss me off is not something I will support.

I am part of the ancient audience at this point.
 

Boglin

Member
We might circle back like playing video games again.
That ship has long sailed. Even if we do start trying to play games again we'll just bitch that it's a chore, or some immersive and world building mechanic is not respecting our time, so games will be adjusted and eventually lead to them just playing themselves in front of our eyes while we dig cheetos out of our belly buttons.
 

nkarafo

Member
No I was saying Lara was attractive while most western female VG protags are most definitely not any more. Angenila Jolie as Lara was beyond sexy. There's nothing wrong with realism, not every character has to have a full face of makeup at all times and wear short skirts but we've gone too far the other way. They actively make female character models less attractive than their real life models, while the men look identical. It's a trend and pattern over the last few years that leftist types told us wasn't happening, and that we're just sexist bigs who want every model to look like Stellar Blade, but that's just not true.

GWPKENya8AAFr0h
Yups, western AAA devs are known to uglify females for years already.
I think last goodlooking female from sony devs was an android, back on ps4 aka 1,8tf gpu with superweak jaguar cpu, so we know its not hardware issue


It's almost as if the "you hate women" argument is tossed at the wrong direction.
 
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Kacho

Gold Member
No I was saying Lara was attractive while most western female VG protags are most definitely not any more. Angenila Jolie as Lara was beyond sexy. There's nothing wrong with realism, not every character has to have a full face of makeup at all times and wear short skirts but we've gone too far the other way. They actively make female character models less attractive than their real life models, while the men look identical. It's a trend and pattern over the last few years that leftist types told us wasn't happening, and that we're just sexist bigs who want every model to look like Stellar Blade, but that's just not true.

GWPKENya8AAFr0h
And people still play stupid about what's going on. It's incredible to witness. Full blown defense forcing for downgrades.
 

Ridicululzz

Member
That's how I feel about this. Even the Marvel humor I can stomach, however butt-ugly "women" just to piss me off is not something I will support.

I am part of the ancient audience at this point.
Nah, I think you're still very much the audience for Eastern games. Maybe just not the recent Western ones
 
Because its already selling at a pace to beat it even before the release of the PC port
That's not true at all.
I have no clue why you think it would move 20 million units in its first year or something lol

lol The Last Of Us 1 did not sell 20 million units in 4 years, it took close to 7 years...
Clearly reading comprehension isn't your strong suit as I clearly indicated in my previous post that the data is from almost 4 years worth of sales.
 
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