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Naughty Dog Announces Intergalactic: The Heretic Prophet

bosnianpie

Member
We have a shared visual language from our culture for females too. The Intergalactic protag looks counter-culture, bitchy, pissed off. These are all negatives to me. I don't want to hang out with her. She doesn't look friendly, or cool. She's not pretty in a way that makes my brain light up. She has androgenous features. In real life, I am more likely to want to be friends with attractive people--even if I'm never going to sleep with them. The Intergalactic girl just looks like someone who cut me off in traffic and doesn't take care of herself.

It's arguing in bad faith to boil down the reception of this character to a lack of sex appeal. She looks the way she does because what is depicted in the trail is what someone at Naughty Dog thinks are "cool" traits --the rejection of classic gender roles, a flippant attitude towards authority, unearned confidence bordering narcissism.

Well said, this was my first impression as well. I simply didn't vibe with the main character for some of the reasons you mentioned. I'm ready to give ND the benefit of the doubt and play the game with an open mind, but I tell you - they're playing with fire. This better be something really amazing or it will be shredded to pieces online. Times are changing and I'm afraid ND might believe they're untouchable. They're not.
 

Kotaro

Member
Well said, this was my first impression as well. I simply didn't vibe with the main character for some of the reasons you mentioned. I'm ready to give ND the benefit of the doubt and play the game with an open mind, but I tell you - they're playing with fire. This better be something really amazing or it will be shredded to pieces online. Times are changing and I'm afraid ND might believe they're untouchable. They're not.

yep, MCU thought they're invincible too. then The Marvels happened.

and MCU is far stronger brand than Naughty Dog, which is still a mid brand to be honest
 
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saintjules

Gold Member
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the title of this game leaked a while back no? Tried to search on Google but couldn't find anything

I think it was just the codename Jordan that was, which turns out to be the main character's name.

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Aaaaand I'm wrong.
 
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EMR

Member
Attacking a product that uses the 100% physical appearance of a real actor is the biggest stupidity of recent times. Productions like Spider 2 and SW Outlaws, which is real actors are insulted and characters are deliberately made ugly are the dangerous ones and this kind of stupid attacks alleviates the real deal.
 
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The Fartist

Gold Member
If you are thirsty in the desert you would drink some piss
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PeteBull

Member
Yep pretty much. I got banned from Ree after saying 'Michelle Obama is hot for her age'. I wish I was kidding but that really happened lol
My take on that is, whenever some1 compliments woman "hot for her age", its an insult, aka there are tens of milions of young hot babes that are much better looking, but u, being old hag, are better looking from other old hags =D
I bet some rainbow forum whiteknight mod couldnt stand reality, hence the ban :p
Here quick example, its polish female tv host, vid is from 15th february 1992 when she was 54yo(was born in 1937 so even before ww2 :p) and she is actually beautiful, not "for her age" but trully could outcompete 90% of women in their 20s and 30s ;)

Obviously much better looking from all those uggo female protagonist western devs try to throw at us too ;)
 
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mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Sorry I assumed you knew who they were, They are a very popular British pop band from the 80s they're very gay and very very popular in the LGBTQ world I've heard them so often on the radio this past 30 years and I've never been keen on them, It just seems funny to me that it's in a ND game trailer in such an out of place scenario seems to be pandering to the LGBTQ community to score points but I could also be looking to far into this.

Yeah with all due respect, I think you are looking too deeply into it. 😂
 

Justin9mm

Member
Now that you mention it, I have heard of VCDs. But only the initials. I don't think I've ever known what it actually was. Nor have I seen one in real life be used in any way.
I'm guessing you are a generation or two younger than me.

Every time I think of VCD, I remember having the original Fast and Furious I put on an SVCD 6 months before the movie actually got released, as in a proper DVD like quality copy of the movie. I watched it and thought the movie was going to be big and no one knew anything about it lol
 

TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
I'm intrigued by this, I'll give Naughty the benefit of a doubt. I'm not a fan of political agendas and crap in games, but I'm also not going to dismiss a game just because it stars a black female. I'll reserve judgment once it releases.
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AlphaDump

Gold Member
Some observations that may shed light on the story that are probably already called out but anyway..

Music is definitely going to play a part here. Her weapon looks exactly like the device she put the cd into. That explains the sword being an equalizer. It also looks like there is a photo in the trailer of the "old crew" and the character in the trailer looks to have had hair at a point. She could be hiding her identity.

There is also a news paper that says "the effects of crystal" or something to that effect.
 
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proandrad

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Baldy turning her CD deck on and of all great bands, groups or musicians to play from the 80s they chose the pet shop boys.... ND trying so hard to be cool and funny but failed miserably what a shit song from a shit group, Very odd choice that didn't fit the scene at all, pandering as usual.
Or maybe they just like the music. It’s cool if you don’t like it but it didn’t come across as pandering to me. Most 80s music is pretty gay to begin with.
 
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ArtHands

Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
It will always amase me that the dev can spend 4 years deciding, drawing, mo caping and finally designing all about his MC for his 300+ million dollar game to put together the first reveal trailer there is composed of 95% MC exposition and 5% gameplay.. and we are supposed to absolutely dont give a single fuck about how the character looks...and just focus on the gameplay and how good it will be.... its trully amazing.

i am not sure the last few secs are actual gameplay
 

FunkMiller

Member
It will always amase me that the dev can spend 4 years deciding, drawing, mo caping and finally designing all about his MC for his 300+ million dollar game to put together the first reveal trailer there is composed of 95% MC exposition and 5% gameplay.. and we are supposed to absolutely dont give a single fuck about how the character looks...and just focus on the gameplay and how good it will be.... its trully amazing.

Probably because there is no final gameplay to show yet. CGI trailer with zero or very minimal gameplay always denotes that they haven't got enough actual game to show.

Would have been a better idea to wait until they could have provided a vertical slice, to go along with the trailer. They would obviously have been aware that the character design would have been controversial. A gameplay sequence might have mitigated a lot of the critical reception.

I guess they just didn't care about it.

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Bernardougf

Member
Probably because there is no final gameplay to show yet. CGI trailer with zero or very minimal gameplay always denotes that they haven't got enough actual game to show.

Would have been a better idea to wait until they could have provided a vertical slice, to go along with the trailer. They would obviously have been aware that the character design would have been controversial. A gameplay sequence might have mitigated a lot of the critical reception.

I guess they just didn't care about it.

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Cuckman did exactly what he wished to do .. its a bold strategy i hope it pays out for them
 

ArtHands

Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Idk the last secs seem more like a made-for-trailer scene. Or at least i hope so because it is so style over substance.
 

bighugeguns

Member
Oh no, I woke up and this still exists.

You know how in the future you'll take a pill to make you forget a game so you can experience it again? Well, I hope there's a pill to forget embarrassing disasters!
 
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Or maybe they just like the music. It’s cool if you don’t like it but it didn’t come across as pandering to me. Most 80s music is pretty gay to begin with.

Wasn't "It's a Sin" some kind of lgbt cry out for being ridiculed and alienated?

I love the song because I'm a total 80s synthpop nerd. But I didn't care one bit about the music on the trailer. It just doesn't work.
 

ArtHands

Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Well said, this was my first impression as well. I simply didn't vibe with the main character for some of the reasons you mentioned. I'm ready to give ND the benefit of the doubt and play the game with an open mind, but I tell you - they're playing with fire. This better be something really amazing or it will be shredded to pieces online. Times are changing and I'm afraid ND might believe they're untouchable. They're not.

Reminds me of this image I saw on reddit



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HYDE

Member
This all reminds me of when they announced Cole design changes for Infamous 2. We’re going to create a more memorable looking main character…the backlash was huge, and people begged Sucker Punch to keep him bald and featureless. Instead of this:
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We got:
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Why not just add multiple skins for people to choose from at the get go so they can pick how they want to see their character. Or make a main design character and also give people the option to create their own character instead?
 
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bighugeguns

Member
Since learning about this game about 48 hours ago, I must have completely forgotten the name of the game five times even now I have to scroll up to remember the name.

It's like my subconscious is outright rejecting the very premise of this existing. Maybe if I drink more water ill remember the name.
 

DonkeyPunchJr

World’s Biggest Weeb
This all reminds me of when they announced Cole design changes for Infamous 2. We’re going to create a more memorable looking main character…the backlash was huge, and people begged Sucker Punch to keep him bald and featureless. Instead of this:
mHmoGgm.jpeg

We got:
AMFAwLi.jpeg


Why not just add multiple skins for people to choose from at the get go so they can pick how they want to see their character. Or make a main design character and also give people the option to create their own character instead?
Because they want to subvert traditional sex/gender roles and beauty standards. You think Naughty Dog is surprised that people find her unappealing? That’s kind of the point. They hate their audience. They want to make you eat shit and pretend you like it. Last thing they would ever want is for some CHUDs to have the option of playing a character they find attractive.
 
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