zero shift
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Very interesting. Its strange to see the left extinguished across the Western world. I can't really think of other left wing Western nations outside of the Nordic countries.
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Very interesting. Its strange to see the left extinguished across the Western world. I can't really think of other left wing Western nations outside of the Nordic countries.
WayneMorse
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The only difference was that the Labour left had an actual leader, Tony Benn, who was a lifelong MP and was an extremely charismatic and media savvy politician. The movement actually produced results too, for example Trotskyists controlled the Liverpool City Council and had two Labour MPs, and the left wingers on the Greater London Council led by Ken Livingstone were such a threat that Thatcher completely got rid of the GLC in 1985.
I wonder what the Occupy movement would look like if they actually had a charismatic leader going on Sunday shows and doing interviews where they defended the movement, and what would happen if the movement actually elected progressives to the House or Senate.
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thepotatoman
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NPR had a very similar story about the same thing happening in places like Uganda just a few months ago.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2013...ppens-when-you-just-give-money-to-poor-people
zero shift
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The reason why Americans won't support such a program, as well as are against any form of helping the poor, because they don't believe that blacks and latinos will use the money half decently and stay poor. They think they are too ghetto and will stay ghetto and will never move into the middle class. They aren't the same hardworking whites who came here one hundred years ago.
zero shift
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My brother has gotten my mom watching the Sandy Hook conspiracy videos! I closed the window of the youtube video and said it was bullshit to which she responded "How do you know?"
lmao. You live with them?
zero shift
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So I'm watching one of these Sandy Hook conspiracy videos that my brother told me to watch and holy shit they are a riot.
Take this video for instance (the one I believe they are watching).
9:58 - They claim that on their facebook where the post of the morning was about fundraising for their dead daugther but hours later they talk about the school being in lockdown! Inconsistency! Except that their facebook page is all jumbled up. What fucking facebook page looks like that? Why are the post times not displayed on some posts? If the person is live recording off their desktop, then where is the cursor? It looks like some photoshop type program or something. Not to mention if these people were professionals how could they fuck up that bad? Why would they be stupid enough to post fundraising prior to the shooting happening. Even if they were that stupid why wasn't that post deleted by the time it was found? Am I not suppose to believe that the government isn't efficient enough to check the pages on the facebook timeline with 1,000s of other people able to comment (most government employees according to this conspiracy). Out of the hundreds of government employees looking at that page and commenting nobody noticed that they were commenting on something before the operation happened?
4:14 - This states that there were "4 handguns" according to the latest info. It then shows this newsreport. The problem with this is that it starts off with the guy saying "this continues to be a complex investigation". That's something only said when its something new and developing. How the fuck is that "the latest info"? Breaking news stories are contradictory? No shit.
Prime example:
6:08 -This argues that its unlikely that an "autistic psycho" would be capable of killing so many kids because he has no gun experience. It compares the deaths and injuries to the Aurora shooting and Virgina Tech. I got to hand it to them. This does make sense. I mean the Aurora shooter and the Virginia Tech shooter were professional shooters just like this video claims. This also has me thinking...why would you trust a video that states that the Aurora and Virginia Tech shooters were "professional shooters"?
The entire video is nothing but with bullshit like this. It claims something in the beginning only in text with no evidence, and then shows a piece of the news story that is contradictory.
Or bad Photoshops. Seriously did China do this? And again, why would they even consider that Emily "the girl who was suppose to be dead" to take a picture with the president. Why would they even think about that or mistake that? Did the photo coordinator think to themselves "Bring the girl who was suppose to be dead out to get hugged by the president? Maybe they are trying to prove that the conspiracy is a hoax!" Also "she forgot to change" from the first photo? She isn't wearing the same outfit. Just pay closer attention to what you are trying to morph together.
However there are two parts of it that do seem weird:
2:14 - This is "unaltered" video of the second gunman at Sandy Hook getting arrested after running into the woods. The problem with this is that its not unaltered. It does a HUGE fucking cut into a man getting arrested. Though I will admit the beginning is suspicious but the running looks weird. I mean who are they chasing? That being said you can't see shit from so far. Wouldn't be surprised if that was animated being how choppy it is.
8:09 - This part is the only one that stood out to me. The dad seems fine for one second. And then starts acting
You know how like 80% of college graduates move back in with their parents? I am the 80%.
Take this video for instance (the one I believe they are watching).
9:58 - They claim that on their facebook where the post of the morning was about fundraising for their dead daugther but hours later they talk about the school being in lockdown! Inconsistency! Except that their facebook page is all jumbled up. What fucking facebook page looks like that? Why are the post times not displayed on some posts? If the person is live recording off their desktop, then where is the cursor? It looks like some photoshop type program or something. Not to mention if these people were professionals how could they fuck up that bad? Why would they be stupid enough to post fundraising prior to the shooting happening. Even if they were that stupid why wasn't that post deleted by the time it was found? Am I not suppose to believe that the government isn't efficient enough to check the pages on the facebook timeline with 1,000s of other people able to comment (most government employees according to this conspiracy). Out of the hundreds of government employees looking at that page and commenting nobody noticed that they were commenting on something before the operation happened?
4:14 - This states that there were "4 handguns" according to the latest info. It then shows this newsreport. The problem with this is that it starts off with the guy saying "this continues to be a complex investigation". That's something only said when its something new and developing. How the fuck is that "the latest info"? Breaking news stories are contradictory? No shit.
Prime example:
6:08 -This argues that its unlikely that an "autistic psycho" would be capable of killing so many kids because he has no gun experience. It compares the deaths and injuries to the Aurora shooting and Virgina Tech. I got to hand it to them. This does make sense. I mean the Aurora shooter and the Virginia Tech shooter were professional shooters just like this video claims. This also has me thinking...why would you trust a video that states that the Aurora and Virginia Tech shooters were "professional shooters"?
The entire video is nothing but with bullshit like this. It claims something in the beginning only in text with no evidence, and then shows a piece of the news story that is contradictory.
Or bad Photoshops. Seriously did China do this? And again, why would they even consider that Emily "the girl who was suppose to be dead" to take a picture with the president. Why would they even think about that or mistake that? Did the photo coordinator think to themselves "Bring the girl who was suppose to be dead out to get hugged by the president? Maybe they are trying to prove that the conspiracy is a hoax!" Also "she forgot to change" from the first photo? She isn't wearing the same outfit. Just pay closer attention to what you are trying to morph together.
2:14 - This is "unaltered" video of the second gunman at Sandy Hook getting arrested after running into the woods. The problem with this is that its not unaltered. It does a HUGE fucking cut into a man getting arrested. Though I will admit the beginning is suspicious but the running looks weird. I mean who are they chasing? That being said you can't see shit from so far. Wouldn't be surprised if that was animated being how choppy it is.
8:09 - This part is the only one that stood out to me. The dad seems fine for one second. And then starts acting
You know how like 80% of college graduates move back in with their parents? I am the 80%.
Don't feel to bad.. my parents believe in 9/11 conspiracies, anti-vaccination and alternative medicine.. shit sucks.
TacticalFox88
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Random thing I noticed.
The Republic of Kenya was established in 1964.
Bams was born in 1961.
How hasn't anyone in the media pointed this out when dealing with birther nonsense?
The Republic of Kenya was established in 1964.
Bams was born in 1961.
How hasn't anyone in the media pointed this out when dealing with birther nonsense?
FTFY
It was still called Kenya when it was a colony.
Also, you really looking for reason in this birther nonsense?
However, this will give me one more chance to post the greatest thing to come out of the Obama presidency -
And no, I will never get tired of this.
theprodigy
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lol Chichikov your edit reasons are top tier
PhoenixDark
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There's no way of knowing that. The civil rights issue was still on fire, as were cities. He could have lost in 1968 even without Vietnam, given the social unrest of the time and Richard Nixon being the perfect politician to take advantage of it. Ultimately it's hard to make definitive statements but it's clear that period would have still been full of unrest regardless.
Aaron Strife
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Siena NY poll
Not much new, Cuomo is still popular as all hell (66/28 favorable, 54/46 job approval, leads 2014 opponents by nearly 50 points), the most interesting numbers are of course Chris Christie.
- Christie's favorability ratings have dropped from 63-25 in November to 49-39.
- In November, Christie actually beat Cuomo 47-42 in a presidential match-up. Now he trails 55-35. Hillary wallops him 60-32, compared to 56-40 two months ago.
- 28% support Cuomo's pilot program to provide medicinal marijuana to patients, while an additional 49% support legalizing MM outright. Legalizing recreational use is opposed 41-54.
Speaking of Christie:
Not much new, Cuomo is still popular as all hell (66/28 favorable, 54/46 job approval, leads 2014 opponents by nearly 50 points), the most interesting numbers are of course Chris Christie.
- Christie's favorability ratings have dropped from 63-25 in November to 49-39.
- In November, Christie actually beat Cuomo 47-42 in a presidential match-up. Now he trails 55-35. Hillary wallops him 60-32, compared to 56-40 two months ago.
- 28% support Cuomo's pilot program to provide medicinal marijuana to patients, while an additional 49% support legalizing MM outright. Legalizing recreational use is opposed 41-54.
Speaking of Christie:
Plus his mother was an American citizen so it doesn't matter where he was born. There might be some additional constraints on that now but not at the time.
smokeandmirrors
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NYCmetsfan
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Palin's facebook
RustyNails
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I posted a while ago that Christie's problems (like everyone's), will come in threes, and they have.
Bridgegate
Adgate
Hobokenghazi
Trifecta is complete.
Bridgegate
Adgate
Hobokenghazi
Trifecta is complete.
Aaron Strife
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God woman when has Obama ever played the race card
Frank the Great
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Every time he's black. Which is always.
oh my god it's perfect
Rep. James Lankford has announced that he's running for Tom Coburn's soon-to-be-vacant Senate seat.
Tom Cole has apparently announced he isn't running, which was who I was hoping for (yes, that's how far we've fallen).
Worst-case scenario. Lankford is a pure theocrat (his only professional experience before getting elected to Congress was running Falls Creek, Oklahoma's largest Baptist youth camp), plus he's a puppet for our Koch-esque titans of industry.
At least he won't be my congressman any more, but whoever replaces him will likely be as crazy or crazier than him.
We have so much potential as a state, and it really sucks to see it squandered because of political extremism.
Tom Cole has apparently announced he isn't running, which was who I was hoping for (yes, that's how far we've fallen).
Worst-case scenario. Lankford is a pure theocrat (his only professional experience before getting elected to Congress was running Falls Creek, Oklahoma's largest Baptist youth camp), plus he's a puppet for our Koch-esque titans of industry.
At least he won't be my congressman any more, but whoever replaces him will likely be as crazy or crazier than him.
We have so much potential as a state, and it really sucks to see it squandered because of political extremism.
speculawyer
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Yeah, the whole birther thing died down immensely when Ted Cruz became the conservative darling. That seems to be what has mostly killed off birtherism.
Principles, my ass. As soon as they had a guy born outside of the USA to an American mother, the whole birther thing about Obama largely dropped off the radar.
Too Palin, Obama's waking up each morning is playing the race card. So to stop playing it he must...
Aaron Strife
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Doesn't seem like that big of a deal. Is her story any less valid because she had help from people in her life?
Christie's numbers nationally have gone from 40/17 in Jan 2013 to 38/34 this month
Also Rasmussen has Democrats leading the generic ballot by 6.
Particle Physicist
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Please tell me that is not real. Please. Holy absolute shit. What vomit inducing words. With all the recent behavior, you cannot convince me anymore that the Republican party is not filled with a majority of racist bigots. I used to actually be a middle of the road voter as well (having voted for Democrats, Republicans, and other in the past).
What a fucking asshole.
I didn't know anything about it. Seems like people making a big deal over nothing. What makes Wendy Davis compelling isn't her back story, it's that she is a sane person among a crowd of vengeful lunatics.
Who cares? It's not a big story and she was never a big name because of her biography, but because of what she did while in office.
NYCmetsfan
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Its really revealed a lot of lingering racism.
I understand where it comes from (the bases anger rather), its a sense of increasing isolation, decreasing power, being forgotten and marginalized. But its blatant racism seeking to solve their very real problems (brought on by the policies they vote for) by pretty much going back to the 1960s where if they're mad they can just blame the "blacks, chinese and mexicans"
Edit: Davis' back story was a big part of her rise and its what she's using in her campaign. To say otherwise is a lie. But these facts really don't change the overall gist of her story and the abbott attacks will go to far and become sexist I imagine.
Am I missing something? It seems the gist of it is correct but some of the timeframes weren't explained or slightly exaggerated?
Isn't it interesting how someone brings up a legitimate question about Democratic corruption, and then all of a sudden the poligaf brownshirts coincidentally appear?
Guards, draw false equivalencies against this man at once.
So 5th dimensional pixie, Reince Priebus, decided to celebrate MLK day as you would expect from the party of MLK - by bringing up Benghazi:
https://twitter.com/Reince/status/425055216296148996
Can I just ask one question? In fact, it's the ONLY question I've ever had since this farce began: Why the hell would Obama want to have his own ambassador killed?
Right-wing conspiracy theories are generally retarded, but with most of them, I can actually sorta understand the line of thinking (using that word quite loosely). The IRS thing? Yeah. Solyndra? Sure. Fuck, even the birth certificate, I can at least understand where they're coming from.
But the idea that Obama for some reason had no desire to help Chris Stevens? It would be one thing if some Republican like Boehner or Cruz was there and he gave a stand down order. At least I could see the wingnuts make an argument for that. But as it is right now? Makes even less sense than the usual bullshit these idiots peddle.
https://twitter.com/Reince/status/425055216296148996
Can I just ask one question? In fact, it's the ONLY question I've ever had since this farce began: Why the hell would Obama want to have his own ambassador killed?
Right-wing conspiracy theories are generally retarded, but with most of them, I can actually sorta understand the line of thinking (using that word quite loosely). The IRS thing? Yeah. Solyndra? Sure. Fuck, even the birth certificate, I can at least understand where they're coming from.
But the idea that Obama for some reason had no desire to help Chris Stevens? It would be one thing if some Republican like Boehner or Cruz was there and he gave a stand down order. At least I could see the wingnuts make an argument for that. But as it is right now? Makes even less sense than the usual bullshit these idiots peddle.
Wow, we haven't heard from him in a while. I figured someone finally got him to say his name backwards and banished him back to whence he came.
empty vessel
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That will only appeal to Texans all the more.
Rhomega Beta
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Every time the Republicans are accused of hating Obama because he's black.
Isn't it interesting how someone brings up a legitimate question about Republican corruption, and then all of a sudden Republicans try to distract and deflect with tenuous charges against Democrats
Anyone see this yet? Scandals keep piling up for Christie.
tldr: Christie dropped a plan to appoint Carl Lewis, a nine-time olympic gold medalist, as the states first physical fitness ambassador, when he launched a political campaign to run for state senate against a Christie friend.
Not major, but just further shows a clear history of politically bullying anyone who threatens him OR (apparently) friends of his. I wasn't quite as convinced as everyone else that his 2016 chances were buried, but I'm definitely getting there (that, and if anyone gets an immunity deal from the bridge closure, he's completely fucked). Not even convinced he serves out his full term as Governor now.
tldr: Christie dropped a plan to appoint Carl Lewis, a nine-time olympic gold medalist, as the states first physical fitness ambassador, when he launched a political campaign to run for state senate against a Christie friend.
Not major, but just further shows a clear history of politically bullying anyone who threatens him OR (apparently) friends of his. I wasn't quite as convinced as everyone else that his 2016 chances were buried, but I'm definitely getting there (that, and if anyone gets an immunity deal from the bridge closure, he's completely fucked). Not even convinced he serves out his full term as Governor now.
zero shift
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This is true. Some sites tend to have people from the country one wing or another.
What I noticed on GAF:
America - Liberal
Canada - Liberal
France - Moderate
Scandinavia - "Mixed" for Scandinavia at least, very left for world issues
Australia - Conservative, very distasteful with immigration, like they are from Texas or something
U.K. - Conservative with a few socialists in the woodwork
Germany - Conservative with a few liberals here and there.
Brazil - Liberal
Argentina - Moderate or further right. Hate for Kirchner
Venezuela - Immense hate for Chavizmo with Sandy Hook-like conspiracies sporting everywhere
Honduras - Socialist (I've yet to meet one that is not. very far left wing)
hydragonwarrior
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He has to say his name backwards 3 times for it to happen, unfortunately.
...That would be such a great petition.
Obama himself has never used the race card. He has said that they don't want to pass legislation because republicans don't want him to win but that's the extent of his statements.
Rhomega Beta
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It'll be even better if we can get him to skywrite it.
theprodigy
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???
a cursory glance at the last few pages of the Australian version of PoliGAF says otherwise
RustyNails
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Rush Limbaugh said:
.Joe Biden said:
PhoenixDark
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She's going to lose anyway.
I will say that it's pretty pathetic that because her ex helped her fund her education, all of a sudden the conservative spin has become "her education was fully paid for by her ex!" That's not true.
speculawyer
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Isn't obvious?
Obama is a Kenyan Muslim and he loves it when his Muslim brothers in Africa kill white Americans. How can't you understand that?
Yeah, I'm joking obviously but you know there are many many people out there who believe that.
zero shift
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It seems that every thread talking about Australia the Aussies always seem to be complaining about welfare and immigrants.
NYCmetsfan
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So the republican strategy to attack Davis is to emphasis she got help from MEN
These people don't learn.
These people don't learn.
NYCmetsfan
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OT threads always bring out the worst.
NYCmetsfan
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Somehow I don't think the GOP has anything to worry about in this race
It still can drive and affect other elections and shape first time voters views about the party and ideology. Abbott will win but these attacks do long term damage to the brand.
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