PhoenixDark
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Obama gets to propose stuff he hasn't moved on since year one, again and again.
I'll probably play video games. Tired of hearing we need to give tax breaks to companies that don't ship jobs overseas.
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Obama gets to propose stuff he hasn't moved on since year one, again and again.
I'll probably play video games. Tired of hearing we need to give tax breaks to companies that don't ship jobs overseas.
speculawyer
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Yeah, I don't think I get myself to watch it. They tend to be long & boring.
And I often find them depressing because they'll be things I don't like and none of the stuff that he talks about wanting to work on will happen. You could probably go through last year's speech and find that nothing happened with most of the stuff he talked about wanting to work on. I don't really blame him, just our gridlocked government.
The only thing that seems interesting these days is foreign policy since he doesn't need the House to do that stuff. I am optimistic about doing a deal with Iran . . . I think that could be a game-changer. Iran and the USA were very friendly for a long time. Yes, I know much of that was based on a dictator but I also think the Shia sect of Islam is more open and tolerant and thus there are good prospects for good relations. If both side can let bygones be bygones, it would be great for all involved.
NYCmetsfan
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Last year he proposed a raise in minimum wage. Its not one of the things democrats are running on, its pushed multiple states to raise it. He's now even taking action himself. He talked about Pre-K, deblasio ran on it in America's biggest city. He pushed gun control, we got the vote, though unfortunately it didn't pass.
I don't know why people say it doesn't matter, it sets the path forward for the next year. Is the house being controlled by the tea party going to prevent most things from happening soon? Probably but like occupy shifting the debate is just as important. What the president sets as his agenda is what gets covered by the media as 'news' the more he shifts it away from the GOPs agenda the better prospects are for democratic gains and policy wins.
Yep, she's the real deal. Every time someone accuses Obama of socialism they should be pointed at her to see an actual socialist.
Captain Pants
Killed by a goddamned Dredgeling
He really is driven by pure salt these days isn't he.
Obama's executive order to raise the minimum wage for federal contracts is pretty smart. It helps a lot of people, has popular support, and really pisses off the GOP, in no small part for how sharply it draws a contrast with them. Hearing the orange one seethe on NPR on the way into work was delightful.
Have you guys seen this video of Bernie Sanders "debating" Bachmann?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...ncome-inequality-clash-on-CNN?detail=facebook
It's as lol worthy as you'd expect.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...ncome-inequality-clash-on-CNN?detail=facebook
It's as lol worthy as you'd expect.
Joe Molotov
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Plus, Rand Paul's response is gonna be on Youtube later anyway, I'll just wait for that.
NYCmetsfan
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I hope Obama makes news and presses on voting rights. He can do a lot through the Justice department.
That and immigration.
That and immigration.
zero shift
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Then why is government often inefficient compared to the private sector? Why does Cuba and Venezuela suffer from inefficiency while China flourishes? Why is Sweden, Iceland, and Norway doing so well while having so many of its sectors still nationalized?
I always thought that China and India rank equally in terms of economic freedom? I assume you are referring to how the state owned corps run things.
Honestly the one major thing that has made me a radical politically is the realization that voluntarism (or more controversy the idea that we have free will) is a load of shit and a lot of right-wing politics seems to largely rest on that premise with "you can bootstrap your way out of poverty" problems with inequality and other things is people not taking personal responsibility etc.. or of course some crazy right-wing politics goes into the opposite direction with biological determinism.. which is a another faulty premise.;p
The good thing about radical left-wing politics is that it really does put a huge emphasis on the political economy (capitalism) and the social environment being the main source of crippling inequality problems and the main solution is to radically transform it to be conductive for human flourishing.
But I'll say that you should never cling to any one political ideology regardless of how right it seems because you never know what will happen in the future, plus you don't want to be dogmatic about your politics and there's always a need to question and critique them on a daily basis.
You know I like the sound of a lot of her crazy reforms and it's a good thing there is at least someone pushing stuff like that out there (despite how unrealistic it is) but what are the implications of nationalising a company like Microsoft? because I can see logical arguments being formed arguing against it.. of course it's something that's so unlikely to happen that it might not even be worth discussing heh.
Aaron Strife
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PPP is releasing Kentucky and Georgia Senate polls tomorrow. Hype!
Hoping to see Grimes and Nunn leading.
Their last poll (in December) had McConnell leading Grimes by 1, 43-42. The last poll of Georgia was in October after the shutdown - Nunn was tied with a generic GOP opponent 42-42, but then led 48-42 after respondents were informed that all the GOP candidates supported the shutdown. That's not really an issue anymore though.
Hoping to see Grimes and Nunn leading.
Their last poll (in December) had McConnell leading Grimes by 1, 43-42. The last poll of Georgia was in October after the shutdown - Nunn was tied with a generic GOP opponent 42-42, but then led 48-42 after respondents were informed that all the GOP candidates supported the shutdown. That's not really an issue anymore though.
Aaron Strife
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WHY IS OBAMA TALKING ABOUT GAY MARRIAGE HE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT BENGHAZI
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thepotatoman
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Outside of just general talk about focusing on income inequality, I feel like the democrats 2014 roadmap is a complete blank slate. The SotU will make it a bit clearer about what exactly they'll focus on and maybe a hint about how they'll do it.
Fenderputty
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With this congress, the SoTU is like a giant cock tease. Lots of cool ideas that have zero chance of gaining traction in the house.
zero shift
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Not really. Due to the fact that we are educated and know things such as Australia minimum wage isn't $20 an hour we understand that this is all silly. However to the average American who knows little to nothing about politics and history they will say they are about "even".
I also hate how they focus so much on factory jobs, there is nothing that makes those jobs special you can find other jobs to transfer into high paying jobs. What's the difference between paying a factory worker $15 per hour and a fry cook?
zero shift
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I majored in psychology and I think any sane person would determine that both freewill and biological determinism is false. Also when you think about it both are very racist. It would mean that black and brown people are either naturally criminals or "choose" to be criminals. Sounds very Hitler.
Honestly I think Microsoft would be better ran nationalized. It's not like you can make it worse.
Aaron Strife
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Fenderputty
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Anyone remember that great free preschool idea?
Aaron Strife
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Yeah it'll be passed with the immigration bill
As well as gun control and regulations on carbon emissions
WayneMorse
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Obama's State Of The Union Theme: Time To Move Past Reagan's Vision
Oh my fucking god Obama I fucking love you.
Oh my fucking god Obama I fucking love you.
WayneMorse
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The delicious Republican anger tonight will be off the charts.
I'm ok with this. I lean right, but Sink is better than the typical FL (R) rep. I'd vote for her in my district.
Delicious.
Praise Jebus.
I think this is new - the ACASignups website is now tracking under 26 year olds on their parents' plan, giving a better picture of the overall impact of the law (people having their plans cancelled notwithstanding). Don't remember it being on there before.
http://acasignups.net/graph
http://acasignups.net/graph
might want hold back on that affection until after the speech -- obama's never shown anything but the highest regard towards reagan and the guy being quoted in that article is the same person who was calling for social security cuts less than a month ago.
also, it seems like Obama is going to use the SOTU as an opportunity to promote the TPP, so...yeah.
speculawyer
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Black Mamba
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I have to hear it, first.
Also, I wish Obama would just come out and straight up blame the GOP House for DC dysfunction. Call them out on bogus investigations and conspiracy crap and call them out for obstructionism. Make a clear case that the biggest problem in America is the Republican Party. I don't care if some think it would be arrogant or whatever. It's time to finally fight.
He always had it in there.
Cruz isn't dumb. I mean, he believes dumb things, but he's smart enough to convince idiots to believe him. His problem is that he's obviously an asshole and completely unlikable, but there's a deviousness about him.
Rand is just a complete dunce. It's different.
jamesinclair
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Someone better make a thread or we all get permed
NYCmetsfan
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You can do that without calling them out. There's no reason for an unpopular president to do that. This isn't a presidential election and he's passed the point he can do that with any legitimacy. Attack their ideas but not the party or people (at least Obama).
That's good to hear, especially since it was reported that Obama would be toning down his criticism of the rich because it keeps hurting their fee-fees.
Oh my god I love this.
Black Mamba
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He has and it has gotten him no where. It's time to start calling a spade a spade.
Call them out for blocking immigration reform. Background checks. Medicaid expansion. Gov't shut down. Min Wage vote. Cutting food stamps while increasing farm aid.
It's time to roll up his sleeves.
Americans like someone who shows balls. And the GOP reaction will be to play the poor victim card, which will again favor Obama since Americans hate whiny losers.
Ignatz Mouse
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I approve. even if I think he sets bad policy and votes for bad things and is the worst kind of hawk, I'd rather he fight to keep the GOP from being all lockstep extremists.
NYCmetsfan
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That will do nothing but invigorate the base which will be frustrated when nothing gets done as they always do. That will not move voters coming from the president.
I'd rather see him do that while campaigning. Doing it in January just doesn't accomplish anything and sets the stage for the media response being 'obama was mean' instead of 'obama calls for action' or 'obama does this'
Black Mamba
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No, it would be specifically something designed for Obama to call for action. I think it's exactly the thing the media needs, too.
Joe Molotov
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So....it's a Tuesday then?
platypotamus
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Poor Chun Li
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Aaron Strife
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hahahahahahahaha jesusPPP said:
NYCmetsfan
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my god my brain is frying about the stupidity being spewed about the economy on CNN right now.
WayneMorse
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What do we do if Obama says something that gets both the Joint Chiefs and the Supreme Courty Justices to give a standing ovation?
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