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PoliGAF 2014 |OT2| We need to be more like Disney World

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ivysaur12

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Also, more lolz from the NYT:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/17/us/politics/with-the-way-eased-two-more-obama-nominees-win-approval-from-senate.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytimes&_r=0

WASHINGTON — The Senate on Tuesday finished its final session of the year by moving forward on more disputed nominations over Republican objections, confirming Sarah Saldaña, a federal prosecutor, as director of the United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency and Antony Blinken, a former national security adviser to President Obama, to be deputy secretary of state.

Neither received the 60 votes that would have been necessary under the old Senate rules, further demonstrating how Democrats have helped Mr. Obama reshape the federal bench and fill the executive branch with people of his choosing since they abolished the filibuster for all but Supreme Court nominations.

The Senate has now confirmed 41 of the president’s nominees with fewer than 60 votes. Many were named to powerful positions that would have prompted filibusters in the past, including seven federal appeals court judges and the chairwoman of the Federal Reserve, Janet Yellen, who received only 56 votes.

In one of the Senate’s final legislative moves, it approved to a package of popular tax breaks for businesses and individuals in time for beneficiaries to claim them on their 2014 tax returns. But the package, which will cost the Treasury around $42 billion, expires on Jan. 1, leaving it to the next Congress to decide whether to bring them back

But most of the day was consumed with nominations, none more irritating to many Republicans than the ones who received a vote because of an impulsive move by one of their colleagues. And with the book now closed on the 113th Congress, they could go down as the Cruz Confirmations — the batch of the president’s nominees who were confirmed by the Senate only after Senator Ted Cruz, Republican of Texas, forced his colleagues to stay in session for 10 hours on a bleak December Saturday.

“No, we would not have had all of these 24 confirmations, and I think most people know that,” said Senator Orrin G. Hatch, Republican of Utah, referring to the two dozen nominees that Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, the majority leader, forced votes once Mr. Cruz made his move.

Mr. Cruz found himself once again on the defensive on Tuesday. At a private lunch with Republican senators, he apologized for keeping his colleagues in session over the weekend, though he refused to acknowledge any role in speeding the confirmation of the president’s nominees, a consequence that he evidently did not anticipate.

“He apologized,” Mr. Hatch added, “saying that we could have been out a lot earlier than we’re going to get out now.” But Mr. Hatch also said, referring to the nominees, “He did not apologize for this.”

Although Mr. Reid would have moved forward with many of the 24 nominees, time probably would have run out this week before he could have put all of them in the queue for a vote. His chief spokesman, Adam Jentleson, said that with senators eager to get out of town before Christmas, Mr. Reid probably would have been able to move ahead with only 15 of the 24.

“We were able to process significantly more nominees because we had more time,” Mr. Jentleson said.
 

Cruz is the gift that keeps on giving. Call it a hunch, but I'm wagering on this only being the first of many such mishaps, not just from him but from the rest of the far right.

The only downside is that this effectively puts a nail in his presidential ambitions, which means there's one less clown in the GOP primary circus.

Totally worth it, though.
 

Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery

It's like I've always said about Cruz since day one. The guy may have been magna cum laude at Harvard or wherever, but what's the point of all that fancy book learnin' if you plan on making yourself indistinguishable from Louis Gohmert?

At least the government shutdown made sense on some level. $18 billion in lost economic activity went up in smoke and they made the lives of some government employees miserable for a few weeks. It also gave a chance to prove his teatard bona fides.

But this? This was beyond useless. One of the first and few times that Democrats not only came out on top, but Republicans didn't get jack shit. It was a completely one sided ignominious defeat that only put Obama (and the Left) in much stronger place than they would have been in otherwise.

It would be the greatest tragedy in the world to not see this fuckhead run for president.
 

HylianTom

Banned
This past week has been incredibly encouraging. They haven't even taken over the Senate, and they're already sniping at each other about various things. When more jump into the race, the shitshow is going to get even better.
 
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thepotatoman

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Cruz is the gift that keeps on giving. Call it a hunch, but I'm wagering on this only being the first of many such mishaps, not just from him but from the rest of the far right.

The only downside is that this effectively puts a nail in his presidential ambitions, which means there's one less clown in the GOP primary circus.

Totally worth it, though.

I still think he gifted us in 2013 with the shutdown. His handling of it made Democrats have to give up nothing. It could have otherwise easily been fairly close to the cromnibus that just passed and democrats probably wouldn't have fought back.

Ted Cruz is honestly the sole savior we have to look towards in these next two years to stop any bad Obama deals that might get made, more so than Warren, Ried, or Pelosi. Hopefully his presidential ambition continues to outpace his care for enacting real policy.
 

Tamanon

Banned
So, this Cuba thing huh?

Will be great if it works out with the embargo ending. Don't care about political consequences(which are overblown, IMO).

Also, this means my brother-in-law can stop holding that he visits Cuba regularly to party over my head!
 
Seeing how Conservatives effortlessly took the Senate, is it actually realistic to assume that Jeb could get presidency?

I think Jeb just has to prove he's more likeable then Romney and conservatives can easily blame the economic crash on Obama somehow and they'd be set.
 
Seeing how Conservatives effortlessly took the Senate, is it actually realistic to assume that Jeb could get presidency?

I think Jeb just has to prove he's more likeable then Romney and conservatives can easily blame the economic crash on Obama somehow and they'd be set.

Republicans really benefited from a favorable map. Not the case in 2016.
 
So, this Cuba thing huh?

Will be great if it works out with the embargo ending. Don't care about political consequences(which are overblown, IMO).

Also, this means my brother-in-law can stop holding that he visits Cuba regularly to party over my head!
I'm in Florida. I'm excited. Id love to go to cuba. It will be cheap as all heck too.
 
So, this Cuba thing huh?

Will be great if it works out with the embargo ending. Don't care about political consequences(which are overblown, IMO).

Also, this means my brother-in-law can stop holding that he visits Cuba regularly to party over my head!

I'm in favor of it, personally, but there's a *lot* of bad blood there. The embargo clearly hasn't worked, but the people that want to keep it in place really want to keep it in place, and they might have the power and connections to keep it that way.

Definitely running on borrowed time, though. Either Castro will die or the last of the old, hardcore anti-normalization crowd will some time in the next 20 years. So it's gonna happen.

Seeing how Conservatives effortlessly took the Senate, is it actually realistic to assume that Jeb could get presidency?

I think Jeb just has to prove he's more likeable then Romney and conservatives can easily blame the economic crash on Obama somehow and they'd be set.

Not gonna happen. Setting aside the Blue Wall and the wonky midterm demographics, no Republican candidate can get through the primaries as they stand right now without saying enough crazy shit to sink them in the general. Jeb Bush is actually not a bad guy, and in different circumstances I might not be that opposed to seeing him in the White House, but it's not gonna happen.
 
So, this Cuba thing huh?

Will be great if it works out with the embargo ending. Don't care about political consequences(which are overblown, IMO).

Also, this means my brother-in-law can stop holding that he visits Cuba regularly to party over my head!

Im terrified that Americans and corporations will fuck over the country.

Right now Cubans can enjoy a healthy and natural lunch for about $1. Open the fat american floodgates, and suddenly its $7 for a mcdonalds meal.
 

Crisco

Banned
Hahahaha yeah, Obama is cheesing like a mother fucker during this whole statement. He knows it's going to infuriate the Tea Party.
 
Im terrified that Americans and corporations will fuck over the country.

Right now Cubans can enjoy a healthy and natural lunch for about $1. Open the fat american floodgates, and suddenly its $7 for a mcdonalds meal.


Like so?
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Definitely running on borrowed time, though. Either Castro will die or the last of the old, hardcore anti-normalization crowd will some time in the next 20 years. So it's gonna happen.

You know after all these years, his poor health, and all the assassination attempts, the fact that he's still alive makes me start to think he might actually be immortal.
 

FyreWulff

Member
I mean

Embargos only work if everyone is involved.

When the two countries that border you are letting people go to Cuba, your embargo is pretty lulzy
 

Tamanon

Banned
Marco Rubio shouldn't get this much airtime. Although it'll be funny when this is the issue that ends his Presidential ambitions.
 

Wilsongt

Member
I love how fox news has an article with the picture "they win?" then proceed to say GOP heavy hitters weight in on the issue... To find it's only rubio throwing a hissy fit. Lol
 

Jooney

Member
Just woke up to the news of the Cuba embargo ... woah.

I remember there being small steps over the past few years to improve relations, but this was not expected.

So when's PoliGAF's group tour of Havana happening?

edit: omg that rubio tweet and corresponding gif ... perfect.
 

Crisco

Banned
Cruz surprisingly mum on Cuba.

Look, Cruz is terrible legislator but a very smart politician. There is literally no upside to coming out guns blazing against this, at least not until the general public and more invested parties chime in. Especially with Rubio out there literally tanking his own political career talking out his ass.
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
You know, when Obama brings this up at the state of the union Biden needs to light up a cuban cigar and take a few puffs. Just to fucking troll even harder.

I, for one, welcome our new President Tollbama.
 
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