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[User 406]

Interesting. Wallace, Buchanan, etc. railing against the rich is something that's not usually mentioned; usually we just hear about the minorities.

That's the thing, Wallace's appeal was to disaffected Dixiecrats. These people were originally mostly Democrats because the Democratic party was the party of labor rights and the welfare of the common people vs. big business. But once the CRA was signed, their racism came into play as well, and opened up a second front of hatred.

The Age of Nixon talks about the kind of petty-bourgeois ressentiment that characterizes these people. It's also where America's proto-fascist tendencies are.

 

[Hexa]

Jeb Bush carries tiny toy turtles in his pockets and gives them to children to remind them that "slow and steady wins the race."

 

[User 406]

Jeb Bush carries tiny toy turtles in his pockets and gives them to children to remind them that "slow and steady wins the race."

 

[Veritigo_X]

How does the 13 year old turtle kid look more confident in this photo than Jeb does? It looks like Jeb is spilling out all his woes and the kid is listening intently.

 

[Teggy]

Jeb's just playing the long game. Those kids will be voters one day, and they'll remember that turtle.

Ann Coulter is obsessed with Trump. She now says that Cruz is not eligible for president even though a couple of years ago she tweeted in a very relieved manner that he was.

 

[JesseEwiak]

Jeb's just playing the long game. Those kids will be voters one day, and they'll remember that turtle.

Ann Coulter is obsessed with Trump. She now says that Cruz is not eligible for president even though a couple of years ago she tweeted in a very relieved manner that he was.

Ann Coulter is well aware that hitching her wagon to Trump is the only thing from getting her replaced by better looking younger versions of herself on various cable news shows and the general conservative consciousness.

 

[Holmes]

Sanders and Rubio have 3 more hours to run a slate of delegates in Illinois or else they're conceding a lot to their opponents.

 

[Lucky Forward]

How does the 13 year old turtle kid look more confident in this photo than Jeb does? It looks like Jeb is spilling out all his woes and the kid is listening intently.

I had that exact same thought before I even scrolled down to your comment.

 

[ivysaur12]

@ppppolls
Candidate with most momentum in NH is...Jeb! Support has doubled from 5% to 10%, fav up from 38/45 to 44/42: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2016/01/trump-maintains-lead-in-nh-dem-race-close.html …

JEB JEB JEB JEB

 

[Wolfgunblood Garopa]

"I know how you feel, Mr. Bush. I learned a long time ago to just ignore it, they'll eventually leave you alone. Bullies want to see you get mad, don't give them the satisfaction."

 

[hydragonwarrior]

How does the 13 year old turtle kid look more confident in this photo than Jeb does? It looks like Jeb is spilling out all his woes and the kid is listening intently.

Can someone resize the photo so the kid is bigger than Jeb?

 

[Black Republican]

JEB JEB JEB JEB

Our NH poll- Trump 29, Rubio 15, Christie/Kasich 11, Bush/Cruz 10, Carson/Fiorina 4, Paul 3, Huckabee/Santorum 1:

sad sad sad

but the delegates split should be interesting

 

[Veritigo_X]

JEB JEB JEB JEB

The head to heads with Trump don't really look good for him compared to earlier polls.

Jeb 45% - Trump 46%
Cruz 46% - Trump 39%
Rubio 52% - Trump 40%

 

[NeoXChaos]

Things remain extremely close on the Democratic side, with Hillary Clinton at 47% to 44% for Bernie Sanders, and 3% for Martin O'Malley. There's an incredible divide between the Democrats and independents planning to vote in the primary- Clinton leads Sanders 55/36 with Democrats, but Sanders almost completely cancels that out with a 59/29 advantage among non-Democrats planning to vote in the primary. That's just one of several big dividers in the Democratic race- Clinton leads 51/38 with women while Sanders leads 50/42 with men, and Clinton leads 54/36 with seniors while Sanders is up 46/45 with everyone else.

Sanders is more broadly popular than Clinton, with an 85/8 favorability rating to her 69/24 standing. Clinton's supporters are a little more committed though with 68% of them saying they will definitely vote for her to 62% of Sanders' voters who say they're firmly with him

The bold might by in large vote on the Republican side. Bernie better hope that is not the case.

 

[Basileus777]

The head to heads with Trump don't really look good for him compared to earlier polls.

Jeb 45% - Trump 46%
Cruz 46% - Trump 39%
Rubio 52% - Trump 40%

He's never looked great in head-to-heads. Thankfully for him there's no sign of anyone dropping out before New Hampshire, all of those candidates are doing just well enough to stay in.

 

[Veritigo_X]

He's never looked great in head-to-heads. Thankfully for him there's no sign of anyone dropping out before New Hampshire, all of those candidates are doing just well enough to stay in.

He at least was able to handily beat Jeb. From last month:

Jeb 38% - Trump 54%
Cruz 44% - Trump 41%
Rubio 45% - Trump 45%

The Jebmentum is real.

But yeah, I don't see anyone big dropping out before NH.

 

[noshten]

The bold might by in large vote on the Republican side. Bernie better hope that is not the case.

PPP is the only pollster to constantly have Clinton in front in NH, Clinton better hope they are right and everyone else is wrong.

 

[Retromelon]

greatest vine of all time : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUEy55r49fY

 

[Cerium]

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/is-the-gop-establishment-blowing-its-anti-trump-campaign/

And now 538 has published its own fresh article, asking:
Is The GOP Establishment Blowing Its Anti-Trump Campaign?

The confidence that a Trump win is improbable seems to be fading a bit. They seem genuinely stumped. And a bit incredulous that the GOP's party entities haven't moved more aggressively to bring Trump down.

Hahahaha get fucked Nate I hope you put money on Predictit.

 

[Y2Kev]

Jeb can't lose to kasich. that will definitely end him.

Jebmentum is real! You will all regret not picking him.

 

[HylianTom]

Marco's the guy to beat Trump!
On second thought.. Christie's got momentum!
No, wait, it's Jeb!

Thank you, New Hampshire. Keep things confusing for us. 😂

 

[Holmes]

Chances are that PPP's previous NH poll was just anti-Jeb and this poll is just returning to the norm. But yeah, 4 establishment candidates fighting for third and the one in second place being hardly ahead is too funny. Great for TRUMP! Hopefully his ads motivate more people to vote for him next month.

 

[Iolo]

Sanders and Rubio have 3 more hours to run a slate of delegates in Illinois or else they're conceding a lot to their opponents.

Indeed as of Monday, Rubio had filed for the primary, but not for a slate of delegates:

So far, only five Republican candidates have filed to run in the Illinois primary. The primary is a "so-called beauty contest ... in which voters express a preference but nothing more" and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R), New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R), Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), and real estate mogul Donald Trump (R) have all filed for the primary.

"But Rubio didn't file in the far more important contests for convention delegate in each of the state's 18 congressional districts. It's not immediately certain why, but the delegates to the 2016 GOP National Convention are the ones who actually will select a nominee." The other four who did file for the primary ballot also filed for convention delegates.

Ohio Gov. John Kasich (R) "and Rubio have been having trouble getting adequate nominating petition signatures in some districts, but are 'likely' to file by the deadline in two days." Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina (R) and retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson (R) are not expected to file.

No further information today that I can find.

edit: Article from today indicates Bernie and Rubio are expected to file by tonight. Cutting it close! Also, Fiorina made it. I was worried.

 

[And_Gignac]

I'm glad @BernieSanders is out there fighting to hold big banks accountable, make our economy safer, & stop the GOP from rigging the system.

Hillary´s campaign after this:

 

[Jack Remington]

The head to heads with Trump don't really look good for him compared to earlier polls.

Jeb 45% - Trump 46%
Cruz 46% - Trump 39%
Rubio 52% - Trump 40%

Good thing he doesn't have to go head to head with anyone.

 

[Iolo]

Good thing he doesn't have to go head to head with anyone.

What if the election is Jeb vs Trump?

 

[FloydtheFathead]

What if the election is Jeb vs Trump?

Is Hillary in prison in this timeline?

 

[NeoXChaos]

 

[Teggy]

Hillary´s campaign after this:

Not so fast..

I'm glad that ALL the Dem candidates for president – @HillaryClinton, @BernieSanders & @MartinOMalley – are fighting for Wall St reform.

 

[Holmes]

Sanders is now filing delegates for Illinois but he cut it close. Still nothing on Rubio.

 

[Iolo]

Sanders is now filing delegates for Illinois but he cut it close. Still nothing on Rubio.

It's better that Sanders filed at the last moment because it keeps the establishment off guard.

 

[ivysaur12]

Can someone explain to me these goofy Illinois delegate rules? It's been a while.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

Can someone explain to me these goofy Illinois delegate rules? It's been a while.

Nothing that goofy about them? You just need a certain number of valid signatures (500) for each potential delegate you can elect (4 from each district).

 

[NeoXChaos]

Nothing that goofy about them? You just need a certain number of valid signatures (500) for each potential delegate you can elect (4 from each district).

where did you get this from?

 

[Cerium]

There was once a time when Rubio was at 50-50 on Predictit.

I know because that's when I shorted his ass. Mwuahahahaha.

 

[Holmes]

It's better that Sanders filed at the last moment because it keeps the establishment off guard.

How so? Waiting until the last minute is a pretty stupid move. It raises questions, like the ones we're having with Rubio right now.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

where did you get this from?

https://www.elections.il.gov/Downloads/ElectionInformation/PDF/2016Pres_DelegateGuide.pdf

 

[Iolo]

How so? Waiting until the last minute is a pretty stupid move. It raises questions, like the ones we're having with Rubio right now.

I didn't think I needed a sarcasm tag there.

 

[Cerium]

I didn't think I needed a sarcasm tag there.

Poe's law.

 

[Holmes]

I didn't think I needed a sarcasm tag there.

It's the Internet etc

 

[Deleted member 231381]

How so? Waiting until the last minute is a pretty stupid move. It raises questions, like the ones we're having with Rubio right now.

Not really. Candidates just like to gather as many signatures as possible to make sure none get rejected - otherwise you end up like O'Malley in Ohio. I understand Sanders is doing it because his team is less confident they have the structure to vet the signatures as well as Clinton's more experienced team.

 

[Iolo]

Not really. Candidates just like to gather as many signatures as possible to make sure none get rejected - otherwise you end up like O'Malley in Ohio. I understand Sanders is doing it because his team is less confident they have the structure to vet the signatures as well as Clinton's more experienced team.

They can start gathering these on October 8th... will 2 more days make a difference? It can affect your position on the ballot, and Hillary already has the alphabet conspiracy for her.

Now as for Rubio... even Fiorina was able to file (unexpectedly). I imagine he will file successfully. But it would be funny if they filed on Monday and just found out then they needed the delegates as well.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

They can start gathering these on October 8th... will 2 more days make a difference? It can affect your position on the ballot, and Hillary already has the alphabet conspiracy for her.

No idea. I assume they were playing better safe than sorry. You need 4 delegates for each district which is 2,000 votes from a district, more if you want alternates and even more allowing for a margin of rejection, so for some of the more rural, less pro-Bernie, and small districts, I imagine that might have been difficult.

 

[Man w/ Glasses]

Posted earlier about ironically going to the Trump rally right across the street from Bernie's old mayor's office in Burlington, Vt. Not sure I'm going to get in considering they've sold over 18,000 tickets to a venue that seats 1,400, but oh well--should be a complete circus regardless.

 

[Holmes]

18,000 tickets... RIP Democratic party, Vermont is going red in November.

 

[User1608]

O'Malley is kind of hot.

 

[ivysaur12]

Posted earlier about ironically going to the Trump rally right across the street from Bernie's old mayor's office in Burlington, Vt. Not sure I'm going to get in considering they've sold over 18,000 tickets to a venue that seats 1,400, but oh well--should be a complete circus regardless.

Oh man, that's like 25% of Vermont's population.

 

[User 463088]

O'Malley is kind of hot.

He is spoken for. Step back.

Spoiler

Kidding, not kidding.

 

[Holmes]

Oh man, that's like 25% of Vermont's population.

A lot are from New Hamsphire, Massachussets, upstate New York and around. It helps Trump though, I think if he can get NH and VT he'll sweep the Northeast.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

I'm late, but it looks like those Republicans for Bernie Kids hid their shirts (they all have coats or jackets) until the picture was taken. Brilliant.