Does he know this and is okay with losing or does he think he'll be fine?
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Does he know this and is okay with losing or does he think he'll be fine?
Agreed. But imagine if he gets higher ratings!
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Haha, and no, left Michigan like a decade ago. Thankfully.
FloydtheFathead
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Clear example of how autocorrect cause at least a quarter of the world's problems here.
disastermouse
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I didn't realize how much he 'hated' Hillary Clinton.
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StopMakingSense
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Not autocorrect, freudian slip. #followthemoney
RustyNails
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Guys stop diablosing. This is not going to backfire on Trump. His people have already gone to the rapture. His support is the lion's share equal to 41% of the total vote between 8 candidates. I dont think even Raygun carried that much lead into a primary. No amount of call outs by Jeb or Cruz is going to bring them back. No one's even going to watch the debates anyway. It might peel off a couple of percentage points because of gravity, but again like I said Trump has so much capital he can take it. I still think its a stunt and he will come back.
Basileus777
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I think the confusion is why even bother with this stunt when you're already gaining even more strength on the eve of the Iowa primary. But Trump's going to be Trump.
A Human Becoming
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Where?
Is this one of those things the kids say where bad means good and hate means love?
Futurematic
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Via WashPo
There's a reason Sears thought he had it in the bag before Bush surprised in Iowa. But yeah I think you're right.
Edit: whoops I think that was national, Reagan was at 50% in Iowa at one point (via FiveThirtyEight):
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And ya'll thought that Hillary and her surrogates don't get the hippity hop language of the young people.
It's just like him carrying guns. Sometimes he's packing heat, sometimes he's not, because he likes to be unpredictable.
Honestly, I have to say a non-negligible part of me want to see a Trump presidency just to see this shit pulled with China and to see his constantly awesome press statements.
I fucking love this cycle so goddamn much.
Holy shit that would be amazing.
Honestly, if Trump goes to CNN and gets them to live broadcast some rally/telethon for Wounded Warriors, get some bands, get some surrogates, and new endorsements, I think it will be enough to carry him through the weekend. He is going to live or die based on his counter event and the follow through.
Also, Trump = Captain Kirk and the Fox Debate is the Kobayashi Maru. Trump doesn't believe in no win scenarios.
Adam, I think this O'Malley Vine is for you:
https://vine.co/v/iiPhqatlqFa
https://vine.co/v/iiPhqatlqFa
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ugaboga232
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That is a genius idea, please email trump right now.
No one has gone in as hard on Trumo as fox did and particularly Megyn Kelly. Plus he's literally working Iowa by having a charity event for veterans. This has to play well, at least locally.
Cruz asking for a 1 on 1 debate does seem extremely desperate now that he's trailing Trump.
Hi bobby.
Almost. Ready to say buh-bye to Bobby.
Basileus777
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That was for a different debate at the end of February.
Typical Establishment Sanders campaign trying to protect Hillary.
Basileus777
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Kind of disappointed with Sander's stance here. He should have said he'll do it if Clinton and the DNC sanction it, he didn't need to add in all the "we want a schedule" stuff. I mean I can see how it can be an inconvenience but sometimes you just have to roll with it especially when you have complained about the lack of debates in the past.
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I don't understand why Sanders needs to have a schedule of debates ahead of time. Doesn't he have his stump speech memorized already?
I don't understand MSNBC trying to force this. Neither Sanders nor Hillary will do this without the DNC okaying it.
Obviously kidding.
I don't understand MSNBC trying to force this. Neither Sanders nor Hillary will do this without the DNC okaying it.
neurosisxeno
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Oh come on, that's not even worth a news article. The Sanders campaign has said for months they would love more debates, but the DNC put their foot down and said unsanctioned debates are a no-no. It literally says 4th paragraph in;
So yea, Bernie doesn't want to get locked out of the next few televised debates which is exactly what would happen. Honestly, the proposed debate in that article sounds kind of awesome. Given Chuck Todd and Rachel Maddow as moderators we can only assume the entire debate would be focused on Progressive issues, which I think would give Sanders a slight edge tbh.
Elaugaufein
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I think this is probably being a little misleading. Trump retweets people saying nice things about him and a large portion of those people are White Supremacists (which should surprise no one).
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If Chuck Todd is a progressive, then I'm a beautiful princess. He is a tool of the first order. Meet the Press is dead to me now because of his idiotic comments on....well, everything. Rachel as a moderator would be perfect, but if Chuck is there, I'd have to be shit faced to not want to beat myself in the face having to listen to him talk.
He is one of the few people on NBC that I can't stand even in small doses.
Him and Dr. Nancy Snyderman.
Avon Barksdale
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Nancy Snyderman left NBC News last year.
PantherLotus
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Of all the obvious things that should crash Trump's candidacy, this feels like the real thing. Which means he'll get a big boost probably.
Jack Remington
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Trump shares tanked after he announced he wouldn't do the debate. I'm down like $300 right now.
Went from 67 to 55 in Iowa, and 55 to 48 in US Prez.
Went from 67 to 55 in Iowa, and 55 to 48 in US Prez.
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I know, I threw a party.
I, legitimately, loathed that woman. It's completely irrational, but she just absolutely annoyed me. Once when I was being a complete bitch, my ex screwed up my YouTube play lists with clips of her to teach me a lesson.
Chuck Todd, I have a more rational dislike for.
It makes sense. If he wins Iowa he wouldn't want to give Hillary a debate to look good in, let's face it according to basically everyone she's won all of them so far, and hurt his momentum.
If he went then Hillary would be forced to and DWS would be forced to sanction it.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Predictwise:
Trump: 49%
Rubio: 29%
Cruz: 11%
Jeb: 10%
Christie: 1%
Kasich: 1%
Trump: 49%
Rubio: 29%
Cruz: 11%
Jeb: 10%
Christie: 1%
Kasich: 1%
Bam Bam Baklava
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How much do you want to bet that the news will cover the Trump event more than the debate?
Black Mamba
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I heard O'Malley and Clinton already okayed the debate, so Bernie backing down looks really dumb.
Like, what is the DNC going to do? Lock out all 3 candidates from their debates? If all 3 agree, the DNC will simply sanction it.
It would be one thing if Bernie said "sure, if they other two are up for it," but to just say "no thanks unless the DNC sanctions it" looks bad.
His campaign managers really do suck. Moreso given Bernie said he'd do a debate previously.
Like, what is the DNC going to do? Lock out all 3 candidates from their debates? If all 3 agree, the DNC will simply sanction it.
It would be one thing if Bernie said "sure, if they other two are up for it," but to just say "no thanks unless the DNC sanctions it" looks bad.
His campaign managers really do suck. Moreso given Bernie said he'd do a debate previously.
neurosisxeno
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Even though she has won all of them it hasn't really slowed his momentum.
disastermouse
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+1. How did he even get the job at MTP?
disastermouse
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I think Bernie has to step more carefully here, as the DNC is really trying to find a way to stop his run. Hillary Clinton could set fire to DWS's house and they wouldn't kick her out of the debates. O'Malley is at, what, 4%? So there'd be no reason to kick him out either.
Black Mamba
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You really think that if all 3 show up to an unsanctioned debate that the DNC would allow Clinton and O'Malley in but not Bernie to a sanctioned one?
I mean...really?
disastermouse
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Yes, I absolutely do believe that.
Then you're not thinking clearly.
Black Mamba
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disastermouse
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Right. A DNC that has done everything it can to get a Clinton coronation wouldn't possibly blacklist Sanders on a technicality. It's inconceivable!
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