Officerrob
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Maybe now Trump will stop wasting his time on Bush and go after Rubio
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NYCmetsfan
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Macho Madness
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MSNBC just called Iowa for Cruz
Aaron Strife
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Taking a huge beating on predictit... Hopefully Trump gets a bit of a rebound when he wins New Hampshire.
cartoon_soldier
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Yea, this is going to give him a huge boost.
A Human Becoming
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Just checked in after watching the Big Short.
Bernie within 2 points of Hillary? Amazing. I called Trump under performing in Iowa months ago. Sad to see Cruz will win though.
Bernie within 2 points of Hillary? Amazing. I called Trump under performing in Iowa months ago. Sad to see Cruz will win though.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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He's really going to surge 25 points in eight days?
No chance in hell he wins NH. Not winning bursts his bubble. Hell he looks like he is going to possibly finish in third now. Going very quickly flame out.
PantherLotus
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(not too early to declare the no show at the debate a mistake btw)
He was polling at 11% in Iowa average this week. He is finishing about 24% here. Way easier to surge even more than that with the momentum out of Iowa and Trump imploding.
It's indeed.
Cruz winning stops Trumps steamroll. Rubio overperformed massivily and that has ramifications as to what the establishment rallies around. Rubio is a dangerous candidate for any of the two Dem frontrunners. He's more of a threat vs. Bernie than Hillary, but still a major threat to Hillary. Meanwhile on the Dem side, evenly split, if Iowa flips or ties, that's a protracted campaign fight.
Officerrob
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.9% between Bernie and Hillary
A Human Becoming
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Not 100% comparable considering the caucus/primary difference.
Black Mamba
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And this is why I warned y'all.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Manmademan
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Caucus states are MUCH more difficult to poll than ballot states though. Recall that in 2012 Santorum came out of fucking nowhere to win it over Rand Paul and Mitt Romney.
HanShotFirst
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Sure.
But Jeb needed to do fucking something. He has zero pulse going into NH.
Cesare Borgia
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Republican friend of mine who works for Jeb just sent me a text:
"multiple staffers on phone begging a couple donors not to jump to Rubio tomorrow. Rubio is the establishment candidate now. And I'm starting to think he can beat Cruz. Remember, immigration was the #1 issue for republicans at the caucus and he still did very well.
"multiple staffers on phone begging a couple donors not to jump to Rubio tomorrow. Rubio is the establishment candidate now. And I'm starting to think he can beat Cruz. Remember, immigration was the #1 issue for republicans at the caucus and he still did very well.
Brawndo Addict
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I said I wasn't going to seriously worry about Trump until after Iowa/NH. Glad to see that paying off.
Macho Madness
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Hillary campaign declaring victory according to MSNBC
RustyNails
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KING CRUZ
ProfessorMoran
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Trump has been shown to be beatable, the hype will start to fade.
NYCmetsfan
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You know whos having a good night? Terry Branstad
See! Media is already spinning in my brain!
disastermouse
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He's more of the same, she's more of the same. Nothing to really get anyone excited, so no new demographics showing up. She'll win that based on pure Dem positioning in the presidential race.
VendettaRed07
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Why would they do this. How can they possibly know at this point ?
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Rubio proves that the no real operation, don't ever talk to people in person, no ground game, campaign from a Starbucks strategy works!
I wonder if this is a LePen like situation where when the white nationalists might actually win (like Trump), then voters overwhelmingly turnout to try to stop it.
I wonder if this is a LePen like situation where when the white nationalists might actually win (like Trump), then voters overwhelmingly turnout to try to stop it.
Avon Barksdale
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Media calling it for Tedward.
He's young. He's from FL. I understand his numbers with Latinos, but his amnesty history allows him to pivot and reach out. Hillary has emails looming.
This is bad. Really fucking bad.
disastermouse
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Yeah, shady as fuck.
ProfessorMoran
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He'll be president of United States/Provinces of North America (Trudeau can fuck off).
Roland_Gunner
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How so? Branstad got pretty chummy with Trump who has crashed and burned.
Officerrob
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Huckabee drops out
Right, seeing as a primary is a straightforward ballot, the polling more accurate reflect the percentages each candidate will win.
BUT being this close in Iowa is phenomenal for Rubio. He'll get more media coverage, more money, more speaking time in the next debate, and will be seen as the moderate's choice by many (even though he's not a moderate).
Macho Madness
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Huckabee just quit his campaign.
Retromelon
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You're lucky ted let you get the last word manky or that exchange might have gone on forever
Frank the Great
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Didn't Ron Paul also finish third in Iowa with 22% of the vote?
Dat media-driven narrative machine.
Dat media-driven narrative machine.
Cesare Borgia
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I hate making statements like this but I think Trump is finished. Maybe he wins NH, maybe he wins SC...but it's quite clear his campaign is a facade. Yes caucuses are very different from primaries but a ground game is a ground game: you need one. He doesn't.
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