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PoliGAF 2015-2016 |OT3| If someone named PhoenixDark leaves your party, call the cops
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Let's not get too cocky, it hasn't happened yet.
Manmademan
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It has. You're just watching the corpse twitch a bit
Bam Bam Baklava
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The only positive from Trump these days is his continual reminders of how shitty the Bush admin and Iraq were war.
Retromelon
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my word, republicans are so shit! What organization is so worthless that they could possibly constantly lose elections to them!
neurosisxeno
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I'm still banging the Rubio war drum. He's the least worst shot the GOP has of not getting blown out in 2016.
Manmademan
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you say this as if rubio has any interest at all in being president.
the GOP is literally begging him to get some kind of ground operation going in the early primary states. he simply doesn't see the need to bother.
Rubio would get destroyed in a general with that kind of attitude towards running.
JesseEwiak
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Yeah, I kinda believe the people who say he's just running for POTUS this time around to basically network with SuperPAC funders and so he doesn't have to possibly run a tough race for reelection to the Senate.
Now, he can run, drop out in March or April, chill out for two years and collect some sweet gigs that ex-Senator's get, run for Florida Governor in 2018, and then run for President for real in 2024 after Hillary's two terms.
neurosisxeno
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Probably true, but I still like his chances in such a weak field.
He's ineligible for Senate, though. Can he run if he drops out in time or something?
That's the point, he doesn't have to run for reelection in the Senate. Clearly he doesn't want to be there anyway.
Rubio really seems to perfectly embody the right-wing's do-nothing government spinal reflex. He really doesn't want to bother doing, like, anything.
He could use this as a campaign ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPrjhrPXkDE
the same world in which walker and his wife serve reagan's favorite foods on his birthday every year, which just happens to be their wedding anniversary
I'm thrilled I jumped ship from Jeb! a few hours before closing to Rubio. Against all logic, I still have a trust in the system winning out and Rubio getting the nod. That said, I am rooting for Trump. It's a bit like watching a football game and having your team crush the opposition while you hold your breath so as to not jinx them. You can't really believe that your dream scenario just played itself out so you are in somewhat of a state of shock.
I guess I'm still waiting to the hammer to drop against Trump despite not knowing what could possibly harm him at this point simply out of a disbelief that my dream scenario is coming true.
I truly hope that I can change my avatar to the classy mogul come next year.
Manmademan
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I'm not sure what kind of hammer could derail the trump campaign at this point. he's too locked in.
MAYBE if Trump pulled a hugh grant and got caught with Divine Brown in his limo?
I'm optimistic, not cocky. I am 90% positive this won't happen during this election cycle. Buuuuut, it WILL happen some day and I'd love to see a montage to that effect.
RastaMentality
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$hillary strikes again.
Coriolanus
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He'd just spin that around as evidence that he loves black people.
Do remember that a shit democrat opposition and democrats choosing to run terrible candidates also had plenty to do with that.
Going by that and what the 10th Amendment is...either he's got a 10 inch dong, or he doesn't make her orgasm, so she has to do it herself.
edit: oh, misread. I thought she called him 10th in bed.
Amendment X sounds better anyway.
adamsappel
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Guy writes some catchy grooves.
This is one of the stupidest attempts at blaming Obama for doing something Bush did I'd ever seen:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/dear-media-president-obama-actually-did-address-radical-islamic-ideology/
Apparently we didn't know that Al Qaeda was an extremist Islamic terrorist group for the first 7 years after 9/11.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/dear-media-president-obama-actually-did-address-radical-islamic-ideology/
Apparently we didn't know that Al Qaeda was an extremist Islamic terrorist group for the first 7 years after 9/11.
RustyNails
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I think the GOP electorate has come to terms with the fact that Trump has no scruples, faith in Jesus or a "moral compass". He's the only guy that's saying all the racist shit your crazy uncle says at dinner. Guess what. GOP electorate is your crazy uncle.
No, no, he's very religious, the most. Loves Jesus, great guy.
Randolph Freelander
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Lie-o-meter -- I'm shocked, truly aghast, at what group seems to dominate the rankings.
Source article: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/13/o...re-than-others.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur
Source article: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/13/o...re-than-others.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur
Lie-o-meter -- I'm shocked, truly aghast, at what group seems to dominate the rankings.
Source article: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/13/o...re-than-others.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur
Wonder what otherwise innocuous comment from a Democrat Politifact will pick for their 2015 Lie of the Year in order to prove their non-partisan.
Randolph Freelander
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That one time Hillary was asked "how are you doing," she said "fine," while secretly knowing she was coming down with the flu.
But seriously, one of my coworkers commented on the Facebook item accompanying this article, saying "who's fact checking the fact checkers?" Ted Cruz has it in his book that fact checkers have a liberal bias, and at least another one of my friends on Facebook takes Cruz's word as iron-clad truth on everything, including this.
It's kind of like climate science. Eventually, conservatives are going to have to face reality, apply Occam's Razor. No, all the fact checkers aren't overly biased, Republicans are just lying. Just as, no, all the scientists in the world aren't in an some elaborate conspiracy to destroy capitalism, we're actually actively changing the climate.
Lord_Byron28
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Sanders is the only politician that tells the truth over half the time. Not surprised Obama and Clinton are at the bottom of the list in terms of lying. O'malley's amount of half truths is massive though.Lie-o-meter -- I'm shocked, truly aghast, at what group seems to dominate the rankings.
Source article: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/13/o...re-than-others.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur
HUELEN10
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I assure you this is not the case. first of all, I'm not an it (they would suffice). Secondly, I really don't want to have both Clinton AND Trump representing the big 2 when general election time hits. At the time of my goal picks, Carson and Trump were closer, now not so much. In an old scenario for a what if, say Sanders is thrashing Clinton and Caraon and Trump are neck and neck. Carson vs Sanders would have an ending that at the time the scenario was more plausible, that would have been much more agreeable than sanders vs trump. I am confident that if in the general it was sanders vs Carson, that sanders would win.
I feel the burn, that is why I'd be willing to vote Carson, depending on the outlook and numbers.
Now? Even though I greatly dislike him, if he gives Trump a run for his money, I'm not saying no to Rubio.
Can't STAND Rubio...
But yeah, priority 1 for me is to vote to up the chances of NOT getting Clinton or Trump.
Aaron Strife
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Yeah but why? It isn't ideologically consistent. Carson isn't that dissimilar from Trump and Sanders isn't from Clinton. And in the narrow band of US political ideology Clinton/Sanders and Trump/Carson are about as far apart as you can get before going into really fringe territory (although Trump is close to that already).
Which leads me to believe your support for the candidates is based on personality or some other superficial element which is, well, stupid. With a gridlocked Congress a Sanders presidency wouldn't look that different from a Clinton one, other than that Clinton would probably be a bit more hawkish in foreign affairs.
HUELEN10
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took the words right out of my mouth.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Ben Carson would be a lot more hawkish if he knew where the bad countries were.
I think the only reason he avoids that talk is because he's afraid of looking like an idiot.
I think the only reason he avoids that talk is because he's afraid of looking like an idiot.
Aaron Strife
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ok and what makes you think carson (or any republican) would have a better foreign policy
WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
Ok...so because Hillary is more hawkish than Bernie...you decide to go with Carson and then Trump right after...which are ridiculously hawkish??
Also Sanders is not winning, neither is Carson.
It is likely Hillary vs. Trump
Abinash117
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boo no DMR poll yet
how far in advance did Trump get the numbers ;_;
how far in advance did Trump get the numbers ;_;
Black Republican
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didn they say 6pm?
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I was hoping they'd do a midnight release - that's typical for polls with a press embargo here. ;_;
I rate this statement Pants on Fire. Both Bernie and Hillary are over 50%. You're looking right at it, right under the Bernie number.
I notice that both Clintons have the highest percentages of completely True statements, clearly her corporate owners told her to trick the American people by being more truthful. They're so dishonest in their honesty.
Roland_Gunner
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Google's CEO is coming out swinging against Trump and his fellow nut jobs. People are going to be surprised when the keyword Trump doesn't return any hits.
https://medium.com/@sundar_pichai/let-s-not-let-fear-defeat-our-values-af2e5ca92371#.vcjzlp2yr
https://medium.com/@sundar_pichai/let-s-not-let-fear-defeat-our-values-af2e5ca92371#.vcjzlp2yr
Butts-a-plenty
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And apparently Martin has never said anything completely true.
Nor completely false! O'Malley is the best candidate for "the truth is somewhere in the middle" mouthbreathers.
It would be great if we knew his positions on certain issues. He flip flops more than Romney could ever dream of doing.
RastaMentality
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Why would they need to work together with a majority in Congrees and occupying the WH?
Seems like Hillary campaign thinks Cruz will be the nominee
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/hillary-clinton-david-brock-attack-ted-cruz-216694
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/hillary-clinton-david-brock-attack-ted-cruz-216694
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