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PoliGAF 2015-2016 |OT3| If someone named PhoenixDark leaves your party, call the cops

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Kasich's Super PAC put out a new ad attacking Trump over... his steaks? I guess they're just throwing anything out there and seeing what sticks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4zOakaVAbk

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WHOA.

A shrewd tweet from @TedCruz:



Yup. They're in cahoots.
Cruz is playing the smartest game in all of the primary. As a GOP strategist put it, he is a pilot fish swimming alongside the big Trump Shark. He is letting Trump devour all that get in his (and Cruz') path. He will be in trouble if Trump gets pissed off and eats him too. So he tries not to poke too much at him and Trump doesn't mind him because he knows he can take down Cruz with a single stroke. In turn, Cruz' hysteria about Washington and Obama helps create the environtment that is conducive to Trump's candidacy. For now, Cruz is riding Trump's fins. When the field is sufficiently eaten up by Trump, then Cruz will either make the case for himself, or he will get on a Trump ticket. If Trump falters, Cruz is on standby to pick up his soldiers. Win-win-win all the way. The real wildcard as I keep saying is Trump. No one can predict what he's gonna do next.

Also I think I found the game's mcguffin that can take down Trump: Birtherism. If Trump starts talking about Birth certificate of Obama, then his opponents, media and democrats can destroy him and make him look like an unserious sideshow.
 
Its really starting to look like Rubio is Walker 2.0. Not able to convert establishment support into excitement with the base. If he can't get a first or strong second place showing in one of the early states its hard to see him getting any traction.
Is this a surprise though? It's obvious what Trump and Cruz are selling to the base. All Rubio's pitch appears to be is that he's young, Hispanic, and "electable". The first two aren't advantages in a Republican primary, and no one buys the electability argument after McCain and Romney.

Cruz and Trump are much smarter politicians, they're more in tune with the Republican electorate, they're better positioned in IA/NH/SC, they have better ground games and more money. But it's going to be Rubio.
 

pigeon

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Also I think I found the game's mcguffin that can take down Trump: Birtherism. If Trump starts talking about Birth certificate of Obama, then his opponents, media and democrats can destroy him and make him look like an unserious sideshow.

I don't think so. Trump is already just as tied to birtherism as it is possible to be. There's plenty of existing clips of his birther credentials, including the one where he offered ten million dollars for Obama's real birth certificate.

As with so many things, if that were going to hurt him, it would have done so by now. The GOP base, whether or not they actually believe Obama is from Kenya, is totally okay with somebody believing that.
 
lmao, their security is shit. You can enter high scores just by sending a POST request to their server with zero authentication. Try to beat my high score :)
 
The kind of numbers Trump has would be impressive in a 3 or 4 man race, let alone 14 other people. It's hard to imagine he doesn't get SOME fraction of the support that Cruz, Carson, and other people have. He could very well be closing in on 50% or above by then.
 
I just realized how much of this anti Muslim paranoia can be traced back to 2009-2010 era Glenn Beck and his crazy chalkboard.

Before that you had the right's blowhards but they didn't have the conspiratorial bent. Glenn started "drawing connections" and now that seems to be driving a lot of this trump stuff. The idea people are "lying"
 

PBY

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The kind of numbers Trump has would be impressive in a 3 or 4 man race, let alone 14 other people. It's hard to imagine he doesn't get SOME fraction of the support that Cruz, Carson, and other people have. He could very well be closing in on 50% or above by then.

I really think he'll get half of carson's share.

I'm not sure Carson lasts til March either.
 

Makai

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I just realized how much of this anti Muslim paranoia can be traced back to 2009-2010 era Glenn Beck and his crazy chalkboard.

Before that you had the right's blowhards but they didn't have the conspiratorial bent. Glenn started "drawing connections" and now that seems to be driving a lot of this trump stuff. The idea people are "lying"
Ironically, Beck hates Trump.
 

Wilsongt

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Healthcare in this country is bullshit, especially if you have chronic illnesses. I don't have a job. Thus I have no income coming in. I go to the Healthcare.gov, I put all that information in, and because I have no money, I don't get a tax credit. Basic plans that that would cover a little bit of my doctor visits cost about $250 a month. How the fuck do they expect people to afford this bullshit?
 

RDreamer

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Healthcare in this country is bullshit, especially if you have chronic illnesses. I don't have a job. Thus I have no income coming in. I go to the Healthcare.gov, I put all that information in, and because I have no money, I don't get a tax credit. Basic plans that that would cover a little bit of my doctor visits cost about $250 a month. How the fuck do they expect people to afford this bullshit?

If you have no job, aren't you supposed to get on Medicaid, then?
 

B-Dubs

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Healthcare in this country is bullshit, especially if you have chronic illnesses. I don't have a job. Thus I have no income coming in. I go to the Healthcare.gov, I put all that information in, and because I have no money, I don't get a tax credit. Basic plans that that would cover a little bit of my doctor visits cost about $250 a month. How the fuck do they expect people to afford this bullshit?

What state are you in? You should be eligible for Medicaid or medicare or something.
 
Healthcare in this country is bullshit, especially if you have chronic illnesses. I don't have a job. Thus I have no income coming in. I go to the Healthcare.gov, I put all that information in, and because I have no money, I don't get a tax credit. Basic plans that that would cover a little bit of my doctor visits cost about $250 a month. How the fuck do they expect people to afford this bullshit?

State?
 

adg1034

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Well that's the problem. Nobody ever expected for you to be able to afford to pay it because when the law was created you never should have had to worry about not getting medicaid.

Yep. Republicans sued, and the Supreme Court ruled that states didn't have to expand Medicaid, even though it was in the law. Which left the gap you're in now. SC could still vote to expand Medicaid, like other states have done, but until then, your state officials are standing between you and affordable health insurance.
 
Yep. Republicans sued, and the Supreme Court ruled that states didn't have to expand Medicaid, even though it was in the law. Which left the gap you're in now. SC could still vote to expand Medicaid, like other states have done, but until then, your state officials are standing between you and affordable health insurance.

Always amusing when red state republicans figure this one out.
 
lol at Rubio as "the frontrunner".
Lol this is like one of those reality shows where we all knew Rubio would be the nominee mirite check out these stats on burritos Kasich has a 20% chance of winning

#natesilverisafuckinghack

if you're reading this nate i still love you
 
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Perfeect opportunity for a mod to change Veritigo_X's tag to "Pro-Trump".
 
I just realized how much of this anti Muslim paranoia can be traced back to 2009-2010 era Glenn Beck and his crazy chalkboard.

Before that you had the right's blowhards but they didn't have the conspiratorial bent. Glenn started "drawing connections" and now that seems to be driving a lot of this trump stuff. The idea people are "lying"

Ehhh Palin was stirring that pot before Beck. And right wing radio hosts were stirring it before her, once the initial joy of watching Hillary lose was replaced by concerns over Obama being "different." This is a long standing vein within the party. The chairs might shuffle around (red scare, black nationalists, socialists, homosexuals, Muslims, etc) but it's the same deck of paranoia.

Obama has always been the perfect politician to make the far right go wild, and him being in office as the country/world gets browner only makes things worse for them.
 
aside to whichever mods see this: time to come up with a better way to embed tweets. we already have embedded youtubes (at least on the mobile site) but we're missing out on a lot because of the way social is working right now. just a thought!

Agreed.

GAF badly needs the ability to embed tweets.
 
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thepotatoman

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Yep, that's the joke behind that question mark. Some pundits are set on the idea that the party decides but the party's choice doesn't have the infrastructure right now to win the nomination. They never say how Rubio will win the nomination, they just say he will because he's the establishment choice.

I'm not sure how he'll do it either. It seems to be a big worry in the party too based on recent comments from donors and that GOP meeting they had on Monday.

Trump's detractors basically expect the combination of people paying closer attention and the establishment money bombing the hell out of the early states will allow the monopoly of attention Trump is getting, and learn that Rubio is a better choice than Trump.

Maybe all this talk about Rubio doing poorly in early states is just the establishment setting expectations low to help set off Rubio's momentum when he performs surprisingly well in New Hampshire.
 
Wow!!! Even Marine Le Pen thinks Trump has gone overboard, she must be like standing on the edge that Trump jump off from

I kind of feel like Le Pen and other Euro xenophobes are using this as a chance to seem less crazy since everyone hates Trump so much. Its funny but making people like this appear more legitimate isn't a good thing.
 

ivysaur12

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Ugh.

FL-10, 05: Democratic Rep. Corrine Brown hasn’t given up trying to save her current district, which stretches from Jacksonville to Orlando, in federal court. However, unless Brown pulls off a longshot legal win or just decides to retire, she’ll need to campaign in a dramatically redrawn seat. Until now, it looked likely that Brown would choose to run in the 5th District, which contains her Jacksonville base and now reaches into Tallahassee. However, Brown advisor Lavern Kelly said on Wednesday night that the congresswoman plans to move down to Orlando and run in the 10th District instead.

If Brown goes through with this, she’ll dramatically alter the Democratic primary in both safely blue seats. In the 10th, 2012 nominee and former Orlando Police Chief Val Demings and state Sen. Geraldine Thompson are already running, and former state party chair Bob Poe is talking about getting in as well. The new 10th only includes a portion of Brown’s seat and her rivals would undoubtably portray her as a carpetbagger, but she could secure a plurality in a crowded primary.

Over in the 5th, Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillum says he’ll decide on his plans after the holidays, and his odds would probably increase if Brown isn’t there. However, ex-state Sen. Al Lawson, who also hails from Tallahassee, could still run. It’s also quite possible that other Jacksonville-based Democrats could eye this seat if Brown isn’t there.
 
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Selzer & Co. is the best in the business. What they say the numbers are, that's probably the numbers. Their 2012 record was impeccable. So, I'm inclined to trust DMR's numbers.
 
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