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Daniel B·;190554666 said:Man, someone's so out of touch.
I'm a gay, middle class white boy. I'm not down with the hippity hop language.
Hillary helps me translate and navigate that world.
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I'm a gay, middle class white boy. I'm not down with the hippity hop language.
Hillary helps me translate and navigate that world.
I'm a gay, middle class white boy. I'm not down with the hippity hop language.
Hillary helps me translate and navigate that world.
You just single handedly gifted Bernie the nomination
.Retromelon
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just make sure your every prediction is some variation on trump, rubio or cruz. otherwise you might not be taken seriously
dan's posts are the ones that make me laugh the most consistentlyDaniel B·;190554666 said:Man, someone's so out of touch
Jack Remington
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I'm starting to seriously wonder if Rubio will win a single state.
If the Rubio surge doesn't happen in the next two weeks, it's probably not happening.
If the Rubio surge doesn't happen in the next two weeks, it's probably not happening.
It was a different time.
a variation on trump, rubio, cruz, or pataki. got it.
Tarkus
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He is hilarious. I'm still not sure if he's serious.
Daniel B·;190554666 said:Man, someone's so out of touch
Jack Remington
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Fuck New Hampshire and Iowa. These states should not have such an outsized influence on the entire process of selecting the U.S. president.
I'd like to see Reince and DWS take a hard line with both states. Agree to a cyclical primary order, or your delegates don't count. Your move.
Funny read from Politico on New Hampshire. If Rubio doesn't manage to overcome Christie and the other establishment guys by a healthy margin, he's toast. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/new-hampshire-2016-primary-217145]
I'd like to see Reince and DWS take a hard line with both states. Agree to a cyclical primary order, or your delegates don't count. Your move.
Funny read from Politico on New Hampshire. If Rubio doesn't manage to overcome Christie and the other establishment guys by a healthy margin, he's toast. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/new-hampshire-2016-primary-217145]
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I almost would like to see a national primary. A big thing, for me, is seeing how a candidate can build a ground game. This small state one at a time thing means that people who aren't legitimate contenders can look more legitimate. Maybe not every state on the same day, but a rotating Super Tuesday type thing.
And I don't say this as a bitter 08 Clintonista. Maybe a little.
but
Oh no, it just reinforces a certain narrative.
Jack Remington
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Order should change every four years. Separate states into blocks, rotate blocks through the order.
QuiteWhittle
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Would he do better than Rocky Anderson?
That the average Bernie supporter is a heartbeat away from swearing allegiance to Trump.
Tarkus
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Do you Trump will pick up some independent votes when Bernie drops?
Basileus777
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Are you considering Huelen the "average Bernie supporter" now?
I do think that due to Bernie's deliberate populist cross pollination, some of his supporters will be looking for a new cult of personality. We've seen them say as much many times on GAF, sometimes in this very thread.
cebri.one
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https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/680789930482778113
Can somebody tell Bernie the difference between a secured and unsecured loan?
Can somebody tell Bernie the difference between a secured and unsecured loan?
It's certainly not the average Bernie voter, but a small minority seems to think this way.
FWIW, it would've taken a 5.3% national swing for Obama to get 50% of the popular vote in Georgia (56.4%), while only a 4.9% national swing for Obama (56%) would've given him 50% of the popular vote in Arizona, even though he lost Arizona by more than he lost Georgia, using 538's elasticity metrics.
A Human Becoming
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While I agree neither is close to being representative of the country, I would argue NH at least represents the Republican base in important ways: it's the fourth oldest state, the third whitest state and has the sixth highest median and per capita income. Romney beat Obama with voters over the age of 65 by 12 points, 20 points with Whites and received nearly 2/3 of his votes from family incomes over $50k (it was roughly half for Obama).
However, NH is ranked 9th for college degrees (Iowa 34th). Romney only got 56% of whites with a college degree whereas he had 62% of non-college degree whites. More importantly NH is the second least religious state, which Romney handily beat Obama for voters who attended a religious service at least once a week and by 13 points for Protestants, who made up half of all voters. Iowa is ranked 21st for most religious.
So yeah, besides religion NH has important demographics Republicans rely on. It's a fairly good state to see which candidate is most favored by the base, but not at all for the general election, even with NH being ranked 15th for percentage of moderates. Moderates made up 40% of voters in 2012 and Obama beat Romney by 15 points.
The Technomancer
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I like Bernie, but he's wrong. Trump is winning supporters on the back of xenophobia and racism. You shouldn't want those voters
Bam Bam Baklava
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It wouldn't work anyways. These are people who are not interested in hearing about the nuances of your economic ideology and how it benefits them. They just want to hear how it's all the the fault of mexicans, or gays, or blacks, or muslims.
Retromelon
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well im a 4 on my best day so im not about to debate you
trading is forbidden!
makai, i refuse to concede solely for the few remaining days left to me b4 you take my avatar
Basileus777
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You expect a political candidate to say this when asked about Trump?
Bernie has called out Trump's racist, sexist, and xenophobic comments many times. The only difference here is that he is talking about a portion of Trump's supporters not Trump himself.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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Trump probably does have a decent pool of voters that are into him more for his personality cult than his rhetoric. Not insane for Bernie to think maybe he should try and score some of those dummies.
I don't remember the exact format used previously, but here's something:
"Super Tuesday," March 1, 2016
Minnesota - caucuses - open
North Dakota - caucuses - closed
Oklahoma - primary - closed
Tennessee - primary - open
Texas - primary - open
Vermont - primary - open
Virginia - primary - open
Wyoming - caucuses - closed
Saturday, March 5, 2016
Kansas - caucuses - closed
Kentucky - caucuses - closed
Louisiana - primary - closed
Maine - caucuses - closed
Sunday, March 6, 2016
Puerto Rico - primary - open
Tuesday, March 8, 2016
Hawaii - caucuses - closed
Idaho - primary - closed
Michigan - primary - open
Mississippi - primary - open
Saturday, March 12, 2016
Guam - convention - closed
D.C. - convention - closed
Tuesday, March 15, 2016
Florida - primary - closed
Illinois - primary - open
Missouri - primary - open
North Carolina - primary - mixed system
Northern Mariana Islands - caucuses - closed
Ohio - primary - mixed
Saturday, March 19, 2016
Virgin Islands - caucuses - open
Tuesday, March 22, 2016
American Samoa - convention - open
Arizona - primary - open
Utah - caucuses - closed
I thought I was doing the next one?
I've got the mid-month debates. The Charleston debate is on the 14th. Iowa was originally going to be first, but got bumped to the 28th.
Tarkus
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Debate 2 thread was SF2.
Here is one I made for debate 2 with Preview on Mac. Needs a bloodied ¡Jeb! shopped in.
Here's the schedule. It's changed regularly so expect some addendums in the future. I think the GOP want to sneak more debates in.
January 14 - Makai
South Carolina
Fox Business
January 28 - B-Dubs
Iowa
Fox News
February 6
New Hampshire
ABC
February 13 - Makai
South Carolina
CBS
February 26
Texas
NBC
March TBD
TBD
Fox News
March TBD
Florida
CNN
January 14 - Makai
South Carolina
Fox Business
January 28 - B-Dubs
Iowa
Fox News
February 6
New Hampshire
ABC
February 13 - Makai
South Carolina
CBS
February 26
Texas
NBC
March TBD
TBD
Fox News
March TBD
Florida
CNN
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